Re: Error when committing updated status document

2006-03-13 Thread Lawrence Mandel
Thanks! Solved by opening the file in wordpad, which converts all the eol characters to the same type. Lawrence Mandel "Garrett Rooney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/13/2006 06:46 PM Please respond to general@incubator.apache.org To general@incubator.apache.org cc Subj

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: -- We should require 3+ Mentors for each project -1. +1 to encourage 3+ to mentor, but it's not worth having folks step up to mentor a project simply because 'they need three' - quoting Justin's thoughts - with which I wholeheartedly

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 3/13/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -1. +1 to encourage 3+ to mentor, but it's not worth having folks > > step up to mentor a project simply because 'they need three' - > > quoting Justin's thoughts - with which I wholeheartedly agree. We > > don't need body counts,

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-13 Thread David Jencks
On Mar 13, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Noel J. Bergman wrote: -- We should require 3+ Mentors for each project -- Upon acceptance, we should establish the initial PPMC as consisting of the Mentors. I'd like to add that

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-13 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >> >> -- We should require 3+ Mentors for each project > > -1. +1 to encourage 3+ to mentor, but it's not worth having folks > step up to mentor a project simply because 'they need three' - > quoting Justin's thoughts - w

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-13 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 More detailed response. Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > -- We should require 3+ Mentors for each project At least 2, anyway. Nice-to-have: at least one that doesn't have a vested interest in the package. > -- Upon acceptance, we should establish the

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-13 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > -- We should require 3+ Mentors for each project > -- Upon acceptance, we should establish the initial > PPMC as consisting of the Mentors. I'd like to add that I think a PPMC is a requirement, not a 'nice-to-have.'

RE: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: > I asked to be turned into emeritus because all I did during > these years was providing advocacy and oversight All? That "all" is much of what we need from Mentors. And more of it. :-) So thank you for your efforts. :-) And are you ready to help do that for another

RE: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Yes, we did recommend XMLBeans to go TLP with fewer than the 50% that William appears to want, but perhaps this is a decision for the Board to take under advisement, rather than for us, since the Board is the sole body empowered to create a TLP. --- Noel -

Re: Error when committing updated status document

2006-03-13 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 3/13/06, Lawrence Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just updated the Woden status document on the incubator website. The > file built fine and looks good on my machine. I committed the XML file > (woden.xml) without issue. When I try to commit the HTML file (woden.html) > I consistently get

Woden milestone 4 declared!

2006-03-13 Thread Lawrence Mandel
Mar. 13, 2006 - Woden milestone 4 declared! Congratulations to the Woden team! Woden milestone 4 integrates extension SOAP components into the WSDL component model, includes validation of Service components and introduces a user guide to the Woden site. Download the milestone and view the rele

Error when committing updated status document

2006-03-13 Thread Lawrence Mandel
I just updated the Woden status document on the incubator website. The file built fine and looks good on my machine. I committed the XML file (woden.xml) without issue. When I try to commit the HTML file (woden.html) I consistently get the error: org.tigris.subversion.javahl.ClientException: In

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Can you confirm the community diversity? That is one thing I could not tell straight off, although I do note the comment in July 2005 about crossing the threshold, and observe that there

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:52 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Can you confirm the community diversity? That is one thing I could not tell straight off, although I do note the comment in July 2005 about crossing the thre

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Edgar Poce
On 3/13/06, Edgar Poce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/13/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know where Edgar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) works, aside from not > > Day. > > At Siemens Argentina. http://www.siemens-itron.com.ar/. But my involvement in jackrabbit is not related to

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: We have the notion of a PPMC, but I don't believe that we are making as effective use of them as we should. This is effecting our ability to scale, and allowing things to fall into the cracks. In addition, people are not as clear as they should be on how the Incubation Pr

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I wouldn't have the same concern graduating this podling into a diverse TLP as a new subproject, so I cast +1 at graduating into an existing TLP. As a subproject of a larger existing PMC they would address the issue of diversity in that forum, instead of in incubator,

Board report for OFBiz

2006-03-13 Thread David N. Welton
>>In any event, which 12 projects would like to volunteer to provide a brief >>report? Or do we have to draw straws? ;-) Let's go ahead and get this over with. Given that OFBiz is new, it's a good idea in any case. OFBiz Status Report === The OFBiz project has commenced incuba

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 3/13/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm counting 8 employees of Day who are not-Roy (I trust you particularly > to know how to wear two different hats) and 6 non-employees constituting > the initial PMC. As such, I'm afraid I must cast -1 at this time soley > on the issue

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Can you confirm the community diversity? That is one thing I could not tell straight off, although I do note the comment in July 2005 about crossing the threshold, and observe that there have been at least 4 committers

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Mar 13, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: Good point. Here is the current list of committers and their last known affiliation oops, sorry, I forgot a legal name change from Tobias Strasser Day Software to Tobias Bocanegra Day Software Roy ---

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On 3/13/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jukka Zitting Yukatan In the interest of full disclosure I'd like to add that although I work as an independent consultant with my own company, I've recently (last month) been contracted to work on some commercial projects

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Edgar Poce
On 3/13/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know where Edgar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) works, aside from not > Day. At Siemens Argentina. http://www.siemens-itron.com.ar/. br, edgar > > Roy > > > - > To unsubs

[VOTE][ABANDON](Re: [VOTE] Changes to Incubator process(es))

2006-03-13 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Noel, Ok. Let's start from scratch. I'll draft a better set of questions on wiki, we can all debate them and then start a fresh vote. thanks, dims On 1/20/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dims, > > It appears that we need more discussion on this issues. I think that we can > rea

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: In general, looks fine. Would you please put JackRabbit on this month's Board report, since it is going up for a vote? Yep. Can you confirm the community diversity? That is one thing I could not tell straight off, although I do note th

RE: IMPORTANT: Change of schedule for Incubator Board Reports

2006-03-13 Thread Arthur Ryman
Noel, I was thinking of the alphabetically suggestion as a way to divide the projects initially. When new projects arrive, allocation them to the bucket with the least projects, or rebalance if necessary. As long as each project reports 4 times a year, it should be ok to swap slots occasionall

Demote TSIK to dormant

2006-03-13 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Dear WS PMC Members, As hinted in the previous discussions[1] Could we please demote tsik to dormant status (Since It has very little activity and no release) [ ] +1 - Demote [ ] -1 - Keep [tsik] alive, because... Thanks, dims [1] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=webservices-general&m=113656492

Re: Kabuki Infrastructure

2006-03-13 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Andy Clark wrote: > Jean T. Anderson wrote: > >>> I have receipts for when the CLAs were sent by FedEx >>> on January 10th and 13th. So I assume that they have >>> been recorded by now. Where would I look to verify >>> this? >> >> In the "We've voted a new committer in. Now what?" section at >> ht

Re: IMPORTANT: Change of schedule for Incubator Board Reports

2006-03-13 Thread Davanum Srinivas
I've cleaned up files for "Apollo, Hermes, and Muse" a while back. i just took them out of the "Currently in incubation" and moved them over to "Graduated from incubation" -- dims On 3/12/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The ASF Board would like for the Incubator to deliver a boar

Re: Kabuki Infrastructure

2006-03-13 Thread Andy Clark
Jean T. Anderson wrote: Did you check the FedEx web site to verify that they were received? Both[1][2] packages of ICLAs are marked as delivered with the note that they were left at the door. And I double-checked that they were sent to the address listed in the ICLA[3]. At any rate, it would

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 3/13/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- We should require 3+ Mentors for each project As before when we 'voted' on this, I am -1 on this idea. My post was: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200601.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Might we close that VOTE thr

Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
We have the notion of a PPMC, but I don't believe that we are making as effective use of them as we should. This is effecting our ability to scale, and allowing things to fall into the cracks. In addition, people are not as clear as they should be on how the Incubation Process works. So ... --

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Thanks for your question Noel, it's the one answer I'm looking for before casting a vote. Bill Noel J. Bergman wrote: Roy, In general, looks fine. Would you please put JackRabbit on this month's Board report, since it is going up for a vote? Can you confirm the community diversity? That is

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Erik Abele
On 13.03.2006, at 08:34, Roy T. Fielding wrote: The Apache Jackrabbit committers have voted to request graduation from the Incubator as a TLP. ... Please send in your +1/0/-1 to approve/abstain/disapprove. +1. Cheers, Erik smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread James Strachan
+1 On 13 Mar 2006, at 07:34, Roy T. Fielding wrote: The Apache Jackrabbit committers have voted to request graduation from the Incubator as a TLP. The following votes have been recorded:

RE: IMPORTANT: Change of schedule for Incubator Board Reports

2006-03-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Brett Porter wrote: > > I'd say start with the newest ones to see how they are > > going with their set up, licensing, etc > +1. That's probably more important for the Incubator than the Board, I should think. > this really should have been straightened out a few weeks

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
+1 Roy T. Fielding wrote: The Apache Jackrabbit committers have voted to request graduation from the Incubator as a TLP. The following votes have been recorded: Committers +1 Roy T. Fi

Re: IMPORTANT: Change of schedule for Incubator Board Reports

2006-03-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 3/12/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd say start with the newest ones to see how they are going with > their set up, licensing, etc: +1. However, this really should have been straightened out a few weeks ago; the meeting is on Wednesday morning...which means the report is due t

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 3/12/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Apache Jackrabbit committers have voted to request graduation > from the Incubator as a TLP. ... > Please send in your +1/0/-1 to approve/abstain/disapprove. +1. -- justin ---

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Leo Simons
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 11:34:18PM -0800, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > The Apache Jackrabbit committers have voted to request graduation > from the Incubator as a TLP. ... > So, I am asking for a vote of the Incubator on graduation of Jackrabbit > that is conditional on the board's approval of a TLP fo

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On 3/12/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Apache Jackrabbit committers have voted to request graduation > from the Incubator as a TLP. > Please send in your +1/0/-1 to approve/abstain/disapprove. +1 Cliff -

RE: IMPORTANT: Change of schedule for Incubator Board Reports

2006-03-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Arthur, > Are you saying that each project has to report quarterly but > the reports will be staggered so that each month one third > of the projects [reports]? Yes. And that one third changes as projects come in and out of the Incubator. > If so, I suggest you just divide the list alphabetical

RE: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Roy, In general, looks fine. Would you please put JackRabbit on this month's Board report, since it is going up for a vote? Can you confirm the community diversity? That is one thing I could not tell straight off, although I do note the comment in July 2005 about crossing the threshold, and obs

Re: IMPORTANT: Change of schedule for Incubator Board Reports

2006-03-13 Thread Arthur Ryman
Noel, I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you saying that each project has to report quarterly but the reports will be staggered so that each month one third of the projects (12) report? If so, I suggest you just divide the list alphabetically, with the first 12 in Jan, second 12 in Feb, last

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Mar 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 3/12/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, I am asking for a vote of the Incubator on graduation of Jackrabbit that is conditional on the board's approval of a TLP for that purpose. This way we don't have to vote again af

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 3/12/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, I am asking for a vote of the Incubator on graduation of Jackrabbit > that is conditional on the board's approval of a TLP for that purpose. > This way we don't have to vote again after the board meeting on > Wednesday. > > Please send in

Re: DB PMC sponsoring Cayenne in incubation

2006-03-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
I am fine with either Brian or Jean being champions. If neither elects to do so, I will. On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:56 AM, Thomas Dudziak wrote: On 3/8/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brian and Jim are our mentors, so we have support of two Apache officers. Nobody officially proclaim

Re: IMPORTANT: Change of schedule for Incubator Board Reports

2006-03-13 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, That seems fairly reasonable... I've started a wiki for this monthly report at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2006. Yoav On 3/12/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd say start with the newest ones to see how they are going with > their set up, licensing, etc: > >Ac

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me. On 3/13/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Apache Jackrabbit committers have voted to request graduation > from the Incubator as a TLP. > > dev/200603.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The following vote