Re: Collecting Proposed changes

2006-01-02 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Brett, Am not sure that the last point will fly with the board :) Yes, i'd be worried too :) [*if the WS PMC had vetted and voted and still produced the same proposal*] +1 to base web site content around the questions like you mentioned. Can you please help write them up? The worries that i see

Re: Collecting Proposed changes

2006-01-02 Thread Brett Porter
Sure, but your last point (having the incubator also approve an external project coming to a PMC) was designed to take care of that. I agree, it worked well with Tuscany. However, in some cases it makes more sense for a PMC to get their house in order first. As long as everybody gets involved befo

Re: Collecting Proposed changes

2006-01-02 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Brett, Let's take Tuscany, If the WS PMC had voted on the proposal before it hit [EMAIL PROTECTED], it would have probably passed the pmc VOTE. and incubator would have had to accept it as-is. however fortunately, the proposal was sent directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Roy (and others) had quite

Re: Collecting Proposed changes

2006-01-02 Thread Brett Porter
Some thoughts: # [ ] - Any proposal should hit [EMAIL PROTECTED] first, No PR before that. # [ ] - Any PR should be vetted by PRC, No Excuses. Agree, for the Apache side of things. I'm not sure we can stop companies doing what they are going to do, but we can certainly say that that they shouldn'

RE: Prototype of new (Forrest generated) Incubator site

2006-01-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> http://people.apache.org/~jerenkrantz/ForrestCoatSafari.jpg I believe that this may be the known issue, but none of the menu on the left hand side is visible. Instead, I get an error, which says: Line 15 Char 1 Error: Object expected Code: 0 URL: http://people.apache.org/~rgardler/te

Re: Starting a java specs project

2006-01-02 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On 1/2/2006 10:20 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Alan D. Cabrera wrote: There are plenty of non-JCP specs, e.g. CORBA. Do they have the same kind of "independent artifacts" like some of these JCP specs do? I've been thinking about this too - what other specs have a similar kind of m

Re: Starting a java specs project

2006-01-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: There are plenty of non-JCP specs, e.g. CORBA. Do they have the same kind of "independent artifacts" like some of these JCP specs do? I've been thinking about this too - what other specs have a similar kind of mechanism? geir -

Re: Starting a java specs project

2006-01-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Henri Yandell wrote: On 12/31/05, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I haven't been involved in any history here, so please forgive my naivete. I think I understand the rationale for developing spec jars here at Apache. Please correct me if I'm wrong. In order to use a spec jar from

Re: Starting a java specs project

2006-01-02 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On 1/1/2006 5:23 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On 12/31/05, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I haven't been involved in any history here, so please forgive my naivete. I think I understand the rationale for developing spec jars here at Apache. Please correct me if I'm wrong. In order t

Re: Prototype of new (Forrest generated) Incubator site

2006-01-02 Thread Craig L Russell
On Jan 1, 2006, at 10:45 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:I've been wanting to create a skin for Forrest that looks like that at http://www.apache.org for some time. Mostly because the default Forrest skins are, well "old".The recent thread here discussing Forrest as a tool has finally prompted me into actio

Re: Prototype of new (Forrest generated) Incubator site

2006-01-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On January 2, 2006 12:57:41 PM + Ross Gardler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Seems to have the same issue w/ IE 6 and Firefox 1.5 on WinXP Really? I don't see the problem on windows XP, IE or Firefox. Firefox on Mac OS X has the same issue (albeit only with

Re: Experiment : Incubator site done in xdocs...

2006-01-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
me likes. On Jan 1, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: I realize that many might have checked-out of this thread about 200 messages ago... if there's any interest or comment... (Note, this is just an experiment) Original Message Subject: Re: [RT] Super Simple S

Re: Prototype of new (Forrest generated) Incubator site

2006-01-02 Thread Ross Gardler
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Seems to have the same issue w/ IE 6 and Firefox 1.5 on WinXP Really? I don't see the problem on windows XP, IE or Firefox. I'm guessing you are referring to the project logo, that does look like it is clipped. I've just upload the incubator logo in its place.

Re: [RT] Super Simple Site Generation Tool

2006-01-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
David Crossley wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: I don't see any point in having this conversation every year. Whoever is willing to fix the content on incubator, please feel free to remove the entire site (except the project status files) and start over with whatever t

Re: Prototype of new (Forrest generated) Incubator site

2006-01-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Seems to have the same issue w/ IE 6 and Firefox 1.5 on WinXP geir Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 06:45:56AM +, Ross Gardler wrote: It is not (yet) a perfect copy of the main ASF site. We still need some work on the finer details. However, I hope this is enough to gi