On 1/1/2006 5:23 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
On 12/31/05, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I haven't been involved in any history here, so please forgive my naivete.
I think I understand the rationale for developing spec jars here at Apache.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. In order to use a spec jar from the JCP, you
have to click a license every time you download it. And this can be a real
usability problem if every user of a project needs to manually download just
to click a license that they don't read anyway (oops, gotta stop that).
Yep. Some are a real pain to find too; jdbc-stdext-2.0.jar springs to mind :)
I doubt that there is enough in common among the spec jar developers to
build a community around "spec jars". But certainly there is a community
among the developers of Servlet and a different community among the
developers of JDO and a different community for MyFaces, etc.
You need community for two parts:
1) Someone has to work on said website.
2) There needs to be a place for people to talk about said specs; not
in terms of development, but in terms of "is anyone working on a Foo
spec yet?", "here's a patch for the website" and "what's the best way
for us to handle the naming scheme?".
The apache-jcp website is well on the way to this [http://www.apache.org/jcp/].
In addition to a simple site, browseable spec javadoc and download
links(ibiblio?) would be nicer than having to dig into the particular
TLP that happened to develop the code.
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Then we get onto the details:
* Should the source be in a shared location, or in the original TLP.
* Do we put it under JCP [ie: www.apache.org/jcp and [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
Jakarta [ie: jakarta.apache.org/specs and [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm +1 to either.
[sales pitch :)]
Really the second question is less about specs and more about
whether/how we want a Java Federation at Apache. JCP is effectively
the 'Java Community Process Federation at Apache', so it's natural
that we'll have overlap issues between the two.
There are plenty of non-JCP specs, e.g. CORBA. I think that this should
go into Jakarta.
Regards,
Alan
