Re: gump for incubating projects?

2003-09-24 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is there anything to prevent gump builds being set up for incubating > projects? > > (other than actually doing the work, of course ;) This last one is probably the biggest obstacle, as whoever does the work needs to be at l

Status of new Geronimo committers?

2003-09-24 Thread Jeremy Boynes
The Geronimo committers recently (9/15) voted to give commit to Aaron Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Alan Cabrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have sent several emails to the Incubator PMC and to members directly but have not received any reply. Are we in the process of sorting out their access? If not, what

Re: Re: Suggestions for Next Steps

2003-09-24 Thread Berin Lautenbach
> From: Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 1. Create a forrest xml source for the Incubation Musings and place > > onto web site. This will require an OK from who? (PMC?) > > > If you're willing to do the work for this, that's fine, but I don't see > a forrest-enabled version as a requiremen

[STATUS] (incubator) Wed Sep 24 23:46:04 EDT 2003

2003-09-24 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indented-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2003/09/17 13:22:24 $] Web site: http://Incubator.Apache.Org/ Wiki page: http://Nagoya.Apache.Org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheIncubatorProjectPages [note: the Web site is the 'official' documenta

Re: Another cut at roles and responsibilities

2003-09-24 Thread Berin Lautenbach
> From: Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sometimes a sponsor or a shepherd has to act fast and remove from CVS > things that are not correct, like licensing. Or simply to give a hand, > always about incubation things. > > I don't find it inconsistent with meritrocracy, as they should be

RE: Another cut at roles and responsibilities

2003-09-24 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:23 AM, Berin Lautenbach wrote: > Cliff, > > Firstly - thanks for all the thoughts. Great stuff! (I think. > Grumble grumble, more work, mutter mutter :>) > > You are more than welcome to update anything in the document you so > desire. However that's not a

jUDDI - incubation status?

2003-09-24 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Dear PMC Members, where does jUDDI proposal stand? (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10638228535&r=1&w=2) Thanks, dims = Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Geronimo Developers

2003-09-24 Thread Daniel Halem
Hi, I'm a senior engineer who's very experienced with Java and J2EE server implementations. I was the architect behind BroadVision's Servlet and JSP container. I'd be interested in working on Geronimo(part time), if you have stuff for me to work on. I've attached a copy of my resume in case you

Re: Re: Suggestions for Next Steps

2003-09-24 Thread Berin Lautenbach
> > formally. Probably the first thing in the policy reference should be > > rules for modifying the policy. :>. > > > Please, please, don't do that! > Your describing meta policy (the rules modifying policy) - that is > another subject with a different set of concerns and should be > d

Re: RE: Who votes for Incubator PMC?

2003-09-24 Thread Berin Lautenbach
> From: "Sander Striker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Who chooses the members of the incubator PMC? I know anyone can vote > > for anything, but who gets binding votes? > > The PMC members of the Incubator PMC vote on new members of said PMC. > The Board signs off on any PMC changes (for all PMCs).

RE: Who votes for Incubator PMC?

2003-09-24 Thread Sander Striker
> From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:46 PM > Who chooses the members of the incubator PMC? I know anyone can vote > for anything, but who gets binding votes? The PMC members of the Incubator PMC vote on new members of said PMC. The Board signs

Re: gump for incubating projects?

2003-09-24 Thread Adam Jack
> is there anything to prevent gump builds being set up for incubating > projects? > > (other than actually doing the work, of course ;) If you are asking -- could incubator projects be gump'ed, then sure -- the great resources in the sky willing. ;-) If you are asking ought such young projects b

Who votes for Incubator PMC?

2003-09-24 Thread Dain Sundstrom
Who chooses the members of the incubator PMC? I know anyone can vote for anything, but who gets binding votes? Is is committers on projects in the incubator, any committer at Apache, just Apache Members, or the Apache Board of Directors? I hope this is a simple question. Thanks, -dain /*

Re: gump for incubating projects?

2003-09-24 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stephen McConnell wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: is there anything to prevent gump builds being set up for incubating projects? (other than actually doing the work, of course ;) Only the idea of using of getting JIRA settup here at Apache and using it instead. Retruaction retrac

Re: gump for incubating projects?

2003-09-24 Thread Stephen McConnell
robert burrell donkin wrote: is there anything to prevent gump builds being set up for incubating projects? (other than actually doing the work, of course ;) Only the idea of using of getting JIRA settup here at Apache and using it instead. Stephen. -- Stephen J. McConnell mailto:[EMAIL

Re: gump for incubating projects?

2003-09-24 Thread Leo Simons
robert burrell donkin wrote: is there anything to prevent gump builds being set up for incubating projects? nope! - Leo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

gump for incubating projects?

2003-09-24 Thread robert burrell donkin
is there anything to prevent gump builds being set up for incubating projects? (other than actually doing the work, of course ;) - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Suggestions for Next Steps

2003-09-24 Thread Ted Leung
On 9/24/2003 4:21 AM, Berin Lautenbach wrote: Peoples, I think in Incubator Musings we have a good first cut at a "process description" for Incubation. This is a non-normative reference that I think could be put on the web site, subject to everyone being comfortable with the contents. On top

Re: Another cut at roles and responsibilities

2003-09-24 Thread Stephen McConnell
Berin: Total agree with your comments and suggestions you provided in response to Cliff. Berin Lautenbach wrote: Cliff, Firstly - thanks for all the thoughts. Great stuff! Totally !! Feedback is really helpfull. The detail and obviouse attention to content is exactly the sort of thing we

Re: Suggestions for Next Steps

2003-09-24 Thread Stephen McConnell
Berin: Other commens on the email later - just need to jump in on this one point. Berin Lautenbach wrote: 2. Create a table of contents for the policy reference document. This can be started on Wiki (and I will do a first cut over the next few days), but I think we are getting to a point whe

Re: Another cut at roles and responsibilities

2003-09-24 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Berin Lautenbach wrote: > Cliff, Firstly - thanks for all the thoughts. Great stuff! (I think. Grumble grumble, more work, mutter mutter :>) Hehehe, you write stuff too well ;-) ... * "On acceptance of a candidate project, the assigned Shepherd and nominated Sponsor shall be added to the set of

Re: Another cut at roles and responsibilities

2003-09-24 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Cliff, Firstly - thanks for all the thoughts. Great stuff! (I think. Grumble grumble, more work, mutter mutter :>) You are more than welcome to update anything in the document you so desire. However that's not a hint - am happy to (and will tomorrow) take all this on board and make the cha

Suggestions for Next Steps

2003-09-24 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Peoples, I think in Incubator Musings we have a good first cut at a "process description" for Incubation. This is a non-normative reference that I think could be put on the web site, subject to everyone being comfortable with the contents. On top of that, we need to try to put a concrete plan

RE: Another cut at roles and responsibilities

2003-09-24 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On Tuesday, September 23, 2003 5:29 AM, Berin Lautenbach wrote: > Would be great if you could have a read through the new version of > > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings I also think this is a very well-written and extremely useful document. Below are a few notes/

Re: Exit Criteria

2003-09-24 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Berin Lautenbach wrote: I've put something slightly different into the IncubatorMussings document. I've said that the Incubator PMC *recommends* to the Sponsoring Entity (the receiving PMC) that something has completed, needs to continue or fails. no, i don't th

RE: Exit Criteria

2003-09-24 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:26 PM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > >Cliff Schmidt wrote: > > >>> while they are in the Incubator, they must ensure these releases are >>> clearly labeled as being incubator releases, which are not fully >>> endorsed by the ASF >> >>>

Re: Sub-project -> TLP

2003-09-24 Thread Danny Angus
Craig wrote: >Off the top of my head ... advantages include: IMO you missed out "Your own PMC and charter" These two things represent a quantum difference in the management of a TLP c.f a jakarta sub-project, as the bring with them the ability (within the restrictions of "The Apache Way"

RE: contributors licence

2003-09-24 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:59 AM, Danny Angus wrote: > Is there a contributors licence which can be signed by an employer on > behalf of a commiter who's IP is generally assigned to their employer? > I have an agreement with my employer, but would much rather that they > made the agreemen

contributors licence

2003-09-24 Thread Danny Angus
Hi, Is there a contributors licence which can be signed by an employer on behalf of a commiter who's IP is generally assigned to their employer? I have an agreement with my employer, but would much rather that they made the agreement with the ASF

Re: Getting the distribution onto a download site somewhere ...

2003-09-24 Thread dion
Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 24/09/2003 04:58:20 PM: > On 9/23/2003 3:51 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > FWIW > > > > my experience at jakarta has been that momentum is much more important > > than Releases. in fact, some of the most talked about new java products > > here a