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--- Comment #28 from Xi Ruoyao ---
(In reply to Jakub Jelinek from comment #27)
> For GCC 13, I think it is important that we e.g. don't miscompile glibc
> libm, so
> the libm testsuite should be clean. PR107967 fixed some of the failures,
> a
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(In reply to Richard Biener from comment #41)
> We could fix the testcase with
>
> diff --git a/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/pr95115.c b/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/pr95115.c
> index 69c4f83250c..09273e445d2 100644
> --- a/g
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(In reply to rguent...@suse.de from comment #43)
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2023, xry111 at gcc dot gnu.org wrote:
>
> > https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107608
> >
> > --- Comment #42 from Xi Ruoyao ---
>
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(In reply to Richard Biener from comment #45)
> (In reply to Xi Ruoyao from comment #44)
> > (In reply to rguent...@suse.de from comment #43)
> > > If the result is unused then no, GCC will happily elide excep
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(In reply to rguent...@suse.de from comment #47)
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2023, xry111 at gcc dot gnu.org wrote:
>
> > https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107608
> >
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>
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Bug ID: 109000
Summary: LoongArch: "unmatched" -mabi and -mfpu setting can
break ABI silently
Product: gcc
Version: 13.0
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
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Merging libffi is a big change and not suitable for stage 3 IMO.
Can we can apply the LoongArch patch locally instead? It will not affect other
targets and even if does not work perfectly on LoongArch we don't
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I applied the LoongArch port patch (upstream PR 678, config.guess and
config.sub changes stripped and Makefile.am conflict resolved manually) and use
autogen.sh to regenerate the build system. But libgo build s
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(In reply to Andreas Schwab from comment #3)
> libgo/goarch.sh is missing LoongArch support.
We ship a go 1.18 runtime but LoongArch support was added in 1.19. Updating go
runtime in stage 3 is definitely not
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Bug ID: 109035
Summary: meaningless memory store on RISC-V and LoongArch
Product: gcc
Version: 13.0
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component:
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Forgot to mention: a very strange aspect of this issue is adding "-fPIE" covers
it up.
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(In reply to chenglulu from comment #2)
> I think this is most likely caused by the implementation of the public code.
Agree, so I filled the component as rtl-optimization.
I tracked a (non root) cause to the
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(In reply to Xi Ruoyao from comment #5)
> Definitely not a __builtin_strlen expansion issue. Things start to go wrong
> in 318r.bbro pass. In 317r.rtl.dce:
>
> note 42 17 18 4 [bb 4] NOTE_INSN_BASIC_BLOCK)
>
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--- Comment #7 from Xi Ruoyao ---
Things are already wrong in 255r:
(jump_insn 17 16 42 4 (set (pc)
(if_then_else (ne (reg:DI 90)
(const_int 0 [0]))
(label_ref 20)
(pc))) "t.c":4:23 discrim 1 -1
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(In reply to Richard Biener from comment #4)
> > Maybe the expand_binop function does not consider the case of dependency
> > with `target` when generating rtx for the case of promote MODE_INT mode, and
> > may
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template
using data_type = decltype([](){return 1;}());
template
auto get_precision(T v) {
auto tmp = *(data_type *)&v;
return tmp;
}
Clang and MSVC accept this with C++20, though I'm not sure if it's re
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(In reply to gagan sidhu (broly) from comment #15)
> and also: https://gcc.gnu.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=gcc.git;h=9f943b2446f2d0
Please don't use this. I've already said why this is not correct in previous
repli
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After r13-3924 this brings PR95115 back. Note that Glibc has added an ugly
hack for RISC-V and old compilers, but other ports may be haunted as well.
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Created attachment 53907
--> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=53907&action=edit
testcase
A more straightforward test (in C++).
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(In reply to Andrew Pinski from comment #1)
> %c does not mean anything in loongarch.
>
> The codes are not documented in the documentation for loonarch though but
> they currently only documented in loongarch.
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--- Comment #5 from Xi Ruoyao ---
(In reply to Andrew Pinski from comment #4)
> (In reply to Xi Ruoyao from comment #2)
> > Interestingly it "worked" with GCC 12.2...
No it does not work. I guess I typed the test command in a wrong SSH
session
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Fixed for trunk. Should we backport it to gcc-12 branch too?
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>From Mayshao (Zhaoxin engineer):
"On Zhaoxin CPUs with AVX, the VMOVDQA instruction is atomic if the accessed
memory is Write Back, but it's not guaranteed for other memory types."
Is it allowed to use VMOVD
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--- Comment #22 from Xi Ruoyao ---
(In reply to Jakub Jelinek from comment #21)
> What about loads? That is even more important than the stores. While
> atomic store can be worst case done through cmpxchg16b, even when it is
> slower, we can't
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Bug 63426 depends on bug 106097, which changed state.
Bug 106097 Summary: undefined behaviors regarding integer shifts in
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> Removing my "fix" resolves the issue for GCC 12 but I suspect something like
> the suggestion from https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=105614#c7
> might resolve the issue properly.
I don't think so.
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(In reply to Chris Packham from comment #13)
> (In reply to Xi Ruoyao from comment #12)
> > Please provide info about how libsanitizer end up building with GCC 11.3 and
> > MIPS64 (such a combination is not sup
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Th
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(I
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> -mlra has been set to default since it was added (2014).
> So, It is ok for us to remove it.
Then let's just remove it (maybe after GCC 14 release).
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It looks I can rewrite the LoongArch test case (still broken though ICE is
stopped) using check-function-bodies. Will try later...
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(In reply to chenglulu from comment #8)
> (In reply to Xi Ruoyao from comment #7)
> > Any update? :)
>
> Well, I haven't run it yet. Since this does not have a big impact on the
> spec score, I am currently tes
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(In reply to chenglulu from comment #10)
> (In reply to Xi Ruoyao from comment #9)
> > (In reply to chenglulu from comment #8)
> > > (In reply to Xi Ruoyao from comment #7)
> > > > Any update? :)
> > >
> > > W
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(In reply to Fedor Chelnokov from comment #2)
> Please note that this is a regression in GCC 13. GCC 12 (or other compilers)
> do not show a warning here: https://godbolt.org/z/Yhfad47xs
No, GCC 12 does not hav
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--- Comment #15 from Xi Ruoyao ---
> Hi，Ruoyao:
>
> The results of spec2006 on 3A6000 were obtained, I removed the more volatile
> test items, '-falign-loops=8 -falign-functions=8 -falign-jumps=32
> -falign-lables=4' this set of parameters got
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*** Bug 114281 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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Bug 26163 depends on bug 114281, which changed state.
Bug 114281 Summary: [14 Regression] Multiple 2-10% exec time regressions of
465.tonto since r14-9193-ga0b1798042d033
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> (In reply to Xi Ruoyao from comment #20)
> > Also failing on LoongArch.
>
> The testcase from comment 19 or the test?
>
> Not sure if we should move the comment 19 i
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(In reply to Dimitrij Mijoski from comment #8)
> This bug manifested at large on Github Actions CI/CI system in the last few
> days most likely because Ubuntu's kernel also got updated to use 32 random
> bits.
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LoongArch patch (tested):
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Do we need a backport to releases/gcc-13?
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(In reply to Jakub Jelinek from comment #13)
> So, is there anything we should do about this PR, or just close it as
> necessary outcome of trying to be more secure when user asked for it?
At least it shouldn'
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mips patch: https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2024-March/648070.html
(tested with -mabi=64)
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To me
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> I don't think this is related to lambdas. The following is also not
> optimized:
>
>
> using F = int (*)(int) noexcept;
>
> inline int impl(int x) noexcept { retur
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(In reply to chenglulu from comment #17)
> The results of spec2006 on LA464 are:
> -falign-labels=4 -falign-functions=32 -falign-loops=16 -falign-jumps=16
Would you send a patch for them or prefer I to do it?
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