Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-05-01 Thread Ron
Although discussing about a good structure to put them under is a good thing, watch out not to waste time which better had been used to code the example themselves. I'm missing modern world examples, not simple basic stuff. Like how to interact with your webbrowser via websockets using Gambas. ht

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-05-01 Thread Randall Morgan
What I was trying to say was that I think having a small document explaining the example implementation within the example would be helpful. I don't think it should be in the Language documentation but in the example's directory. Nothing really involved, and this may be most appropriate for the sim

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-05-01 Thread Tobias Boege
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Fabien Bodard wrote: > 2013/4/30 Tobias Boege > > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Beno?t Minisini wrote: > > > I have never found the time to write good examples so you have my full > > > blessing. > > > > > > Just don't work directly on the current examples > > > (/trunk/examples/exa

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-05-01 Thread Tobias Boege
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, David Robertson wrote: > On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 21:37 +0200, Tobias Boege wrote: > > I'm still looking for people's opinions (or Bruce's criticism) to get a > > representative consensus - maybe it's a flaw in our modern upbringing :-) - > > because examples are things that all h

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-05-01 Thread Tobias Boege
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Sebastian Kulesz wrote: > That's why I said this wasn't the most accurate approach. Ratings can > easily be added to the IDE (just as components descriptions), there is no > need to modify any .component file. > > Doing it this way, classes, amount of symbols, amount of forms.

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-30 Thread Randall Morgan
I'm of the opinion that examples coupled with documentation provides a better insight into how to use the language. If the examples came with even a cursory description of the implementation it would be a greater help to end users of the language. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 4:52 PM, David Robertson

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-30 Thread David Robertson
On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 21:37 +0200, Tobias Boege wrote: > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Beno?t Minisini wrote: > > Bbe more concrete of what "levels" you want, and then we can use real > > names instead of numbers. > > > > I'd go with the majority's observation: two levels, namely Beginner and > Advanced.

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-30 Thread Sebastian Kulesz
On Apr 30, 2013 5:23 PM, "Tobias Boege" wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Sebastian Kulesz wrote: > > Maybe there is a way to do this already without changing anything. Consider > > this: > > > > The complexity of an example (project?) *may* be given by the amount of > > components it uses (just thi

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-30 Thread Tobias Boege
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Sebastian Kulesz wrote: > Maybe there is a way to do this already without changing anything. Consider > this: > > The complexity of an example (project?) *may* be given by the amount of > components it uses (just thinking out loud). But, if not accurate, it > should be a reall

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-30 Thread Sebastian Kulesz
Maybe there is a way to do this already without changing anything. Consider this: The complexity of an example (project?) *may* be given by the amount of components it uses (just thinking out loud). But, if not accurate, it should be a really good approximation. So, sorting the examples by the am

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-30 Thread Tobias Boege
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Beno?t Minisini wrote: > Bbe more concrete of what "levels" you want, and then we can use real > names instead of numbers. > I'd go with the majority's observation: two levels, namely Beginner and Advanced. > The current example grouping is arbitrary. You may have a differe

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-30 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 30/04/2013 20:47, Tobias Boege a écrit : > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Beno?t Minisini wrote: >> Le 30/04/2013 15:39, Tobias Boege a ?crit : >>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Beno?t Minisini wrote: I have never found the time to write good examples so you have my full blessing. Just don't wo

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-30 Thread Tobias Boege
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Beno?t Minisini wrote: > Le 30/04/2013 15:39, Tobias Boege a ?crit : > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Beno?t Minisini wrote: > >> I have never found the time to write good examples so you have my full > >> blessing. > >> > >> Just don't work directly on the current examples > >> (/trun

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-30 Thread Fabien Bodard
2013/4/30 Tobias Boege > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Beno?t Minisini wrote: > > I have never found the time to write good examples so you have my full > > blessing. > > > > Just don't work directly on the current examples > > (/trunk/examples/example). Just create a new directory > > ('/trunk/examples/s

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-30 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 30/04/2013 15:39, Tobias Boege a écrit : > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Beno?t Minisini wrote: >> I have never found the time to write good examples so you have my full >> blessing. >> >> Just don't work directly on the current examples >> (/trunk/examples/example). Just create a new directory >> ('/tru

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-30 Thread Tobias Boege
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Beno?t Minisini wrote: > I have never found the time to write good examples so you have my full > blessing. > > Just don't work directly on the current examples > (/trunk/examples/example). Just create a new directory > ('/trunk/examples/src' for... example) where you will

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-29 Thread Tobias Boege
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Bruce wrote: > On Sun, 2013-04-28 at 19:30 +0200, Tobias Boege wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > {lots} 8< > > Hi Tobi, > > Here's some "opinion", so take it as such and not criticism. > Too bad, for criticism helps to improve our ideas. Now you leave the work to me to make cri

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-29 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 28/04/2013 19:30, Tobias Boege a écrit : > Hi folks, > > I'm finally going to write my last A level exam tomorrow. Except the oral > exam in June, I have ca. 5 months of spare time until matriculation. Among > working here and there, I plan to do much work on my Gambas components and > stuff and

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-28 Thread Bruce
On Sun, 2013-04-28 at 19:30 +0200, Tobias Boege wrote: > Hi folks, > > {lots} 8< Hi Tobi, Here's some "opinion", so take it as such and not criticism. 1) Who uses the examples and why? I would say there are two general categories of people who access the examples. New gambas coders looking fo

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-28 Thread Richard Terry
?Sounds like a good Idea - the examples were useful for me a few years ago when I was trying to learn gambas, mind you my brain is over 60 years old so that's probably part of the problem. As you are wandering through them , I don't suppose you/or anyone else on the list could get the web-cam e

Re: [Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-28 Thread Matti
Tobi, I think this is a very good idea. I remember when I started with Gambas: I looked at the examples, but I didn't want to play games - I wanted to learn how to use a piece of code for this or that purpose. I missed the very basics, sometimes I found something, but sometimes not. It is surely a

[Gambas-user] Restructuring the official Gambas examples

2013-04-28 Thread Tobias Boege
Hi folks, I'm finally going to write my last A level exam tomorrow. Except the oral exam in June, I have ca. 5 months of spare time until matriculation. Among working here and there, I plan to do much work on my Gambas components and stuff and wanted to start by restructuring the Gambas examples n