Hi Randall and Rob,
for my own business (a privately run language school), Gambas has become
a mission-critical tool. With the exception of the accounting office, we
are running a Linux server with LTSP which serves not only the 50
students' computers in two labs + some working spaces but also
Well as does happen though-time, language changes. The terms used over time
tend to take on different meanings giving the society in which they are
used. One of the reasons communications can be so difficult
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Rob Kudla
wrote:
> On 11/27/2013 03:18 PM, Randall
On 11/27/2013 03:18 PM, Randall Morgan wrote:
> When I think of mission critical, I think of things that could cost
> someone's life if failure occurred. Things like, aircraft guidance systems,
> embedded medical devices, automotive steering and breaking systems, rail
> switching systems, etc.
Th
@Randall:
Nope. NELIAC was a language conceived at the Naval Research Labs
exclusively for the use of our Burroughs D820 computers. The whole
operating system, called AOSP (Automatic Operating and Scheduling Program),
was maintained right at our computing facility and neve
When I think of mission critical, I think of things that could cost
someone's life if failure occurred. Things like, aircraft guidance systems,
embedded medical devices, automotive steering and breaking systems, rail
switching systems, etc. You can argue that almost any software is mission
critical
2013-11-27 15:55 keltezéssel, PICCORO McKAY Lenz írta:
> ==
> From: Kende Kriszti?n
>> https://launchpad.net/myunity
> over version of this app appears in default winbuntu repositories:
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/myunity
> but mayority of end users dont really know about it!
You miss french Charlie
2013/11/27 Charlie Reinl :
> about good, bad 'BASIC'
>
> "There's an old saying:" no, not Tobis Mr. Monk
>
> only a poor craftsman blames his tools
> qu'un pauvre artisan blâme ses outils
> más que un pobre artesano culpa a sus herramientas
> nur ein schlechter Handwerker
==
From: Kende Kriszti?n
> https://launchpad.net/myunity
over version of this app appears in default winbuntu repositories:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/myunity
but mayority of end users dont really know about it!
Kende, whats the progress of the oficial packagin to oficial
dist
Tha's was i taking about:
From: Nigel Verity
> Gambas is a tool which every serious developer should examine closely.
> Its biggest challenge is the mistaken notion which equates professionalism
> and functionality with complexity.
>
> Nige
100% agree!
From: Rolf-Werner Eilert
> Maybe leaving a
about good, bad 'BASIC'
"There's an old saying:" no, not Tobis Mr. Monk
only a poor craftsman blames his tools
qu'un pauvre artisan blâme ses outils
más que un pobre artesano culpa a sus herramientas
nur ein schlechter Handwerker tadelt seine Werkzeuge
(Thanks google translater)
Charlie
100 % agreed, Nigel.
Maybe leaving away all mentioning of VB in the headlines would already
help a bit in the way the public perceives the project. What I mean is,
the website and the texts describing it for newcomers. Mentioning VB
could wake evil memories for some folks not so aquainted with
Dear All
It's been interesting to read about perceptions that BASIC is a "toy"
programming language, not to be used for serious projects. I have to reject
this notion. There are some very low level system programming tasks for which
BASIC may not be the best choice but, in principle, like an
On 27/11/13 00:48, Benoît Minisini wrote:
> Le 26/11/2013 14:07, PICCORO McKAY Lenz a écrit :
>> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
>> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>>
>> due there's no critically apps on production environment, there's no
>> enterprise that uses gambas to any critical application , a
http://www.uielinux.org/myunity/
2013/11/26 Tom :
> I agree! Well said...
>
> On 11/26/2013 2:10 PM, Randall Morgan wrote:
>> Ok, I'll give my two cents worth...
>>
>> BASIC has gotten a bad wrap and it is now vogue to knock BASIC. The
>> statement someone made in the article comments, something
I agree! Well said...
On 11/26/2013 2:10 PM, Randall Morgan wrote:
> Ok, I'll give my two cents worth...
>
> BASIC has gotten a bad wrap and it is now vogue to knock BASIC. The
> statement someone made in the article comments, something to the fact that
> "Anyone who has been exposed to BASIC can
On 11/26/2013 01:57 PM, ukimiku wrote:
> I don't plan on programming "mission-critical" tasks anytime soon,
> anyhow :)
I have written mission-critical, shut-the-place-down-if-it-fails apps in
Gambas. They were for the companies that paid for them to be written, not
publicly released software, but
Very well put, Randall. I also learned my programming skills back in 1962
when I entered the programming shop of the US Navy. I spent 20 years there
using some pretty esoteric languages but BASIC was still used in my home
right at first. It was BASIC that Heathkit provided for the
Ok, I'll give my two cents worth...
BASIC has gotten a bad wrap and it is now vogue to knock BASIC. The
statement someone made in the article comments, something to the fact that
"Anyone who has been exposed to BASIC cannot be a good programmer" is crap.
BASIC was the first language for many GREAT
Hi Piccoro McKay Lenz,
"do u note that u said that "gambas its only for u'r creational purposes",",
you wrote.
But I didn't say that. I didn't say "only". If I should use Gambas
professionally to some degree, I could quite well handle a few hick-ups. I
don't plan on programming "mission-critical"
Am Dienstag, den 26.11.2013, 17:42 +0100 schrieb Fabien Bodard:
> The first Unity conf app "MyUnity" was done with Gambas but noOne
> knows because there 're end users :-)
>
Salut,
just google 'MyUnity gambas'
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2013-11-26 18:06 keltezéssel, PICCORO McKAY Lenz írta:
> From: Fabien Bodard
>> The first Unity conf app "MyUnity" was done with Gambas but noOne
>> knows because there 're end users :-)
> 1) a link please?
https://launchpad.net/myunity
> 2) usefully in unity, unity are default for winbuntu/
From: Fabien Bodard
> The first Unity conf app "MyUnity" was done with Gambas but noOne
> knows because there 're end users :-)
1) a link please?
2) usefully in unity, unity are default for winbuntu/some-phones, that's good
3) how can we promote that to winbuntu repositories (i mean oficial p
>due there's no critically apps on production environment, there's no
>enterprise that uses gambas to any critical application , and i the
>only one here that already have that!
Not the only one. My enterprise depends absolutly of gambas developments.
Critical, 24 hours per day seven days per week
The first Unity conf app "MyUnity" was done with Gambas but noOne
knows because there 're end users :-)
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2013/11/26 Fabien Bodard :
> The first Unity conf app "MyUnity" was done with Gambas but noOne
> knows because there 're end users :-)
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WOW!! how quickly response to my lasted mail about that topic!
well its clarelly that most linux users do not know already about that' facts!
so then the need its more stability, less "evolution" (ok ok, but that's enough)
gambas are really powerfully but litlle people already know it!
a example
WOW!! how quickly response to my lasted mail about that topic!
well its clarelly that most linux users do not know already about that' facts!
so then the need its more stability, less "evolution" (ok ok, but that's enough)
gambas are really powerfully but litlle people already know it!
a example
Le 26/11/2013 14:48, Benoît Minisini a écrit :
> Le 26/11/2013 14:07, PICCORO McKAY Lenz a écrit :
>> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
>> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>>
>> due there's no critically apps on production environment, there's no
>> enterprise that uses gambas to any critical applicatio
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013, Beno??t Minisini wrote:
> Le 26/11/2013 14:07, PICCORO McKAY Lenz a ??crit :
> > Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
> > http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
> >
> > due there's no critically apps on production environment, there's no
> > enterprise that uses gambas to any critical applic
Le 26/11/2013 14:07, PICCORO McKAY Lenz a écrit :
> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>
> due there's no critically apps on production environment, there's no
> enterprise that uses gambas to any critical application , and i the
> only one here that already have that!
Yes, you are right. Do you know/remember "RealBasic"? The company has
recently changed its name to "Xojo". They explicitly write on their website
that they wanted to rid themselves of the "BASIC" image. I quite enjoyed
programming in RealBasic a couple of years ago, though.
But we should not conce
Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
From: Fabien Bodard
> The same problem remain... some people don't know Gambas and don't
> want to know it because it's a BASIC. But the Gambas syntaxe is now a
> modern Basic far more modern even than VB.
due there's no critically ap
Am 25.11.2013 20:31, schrieb Kende Krisztián:
> 2013-11-25 20:09 keltezéssel, Benoît Minisini írta:
>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUyNTM
>>
>
> Just don't read the comments. :-)
>
> Kendek
>
Well, there's a troll in every such discussion, and there are always
some folks
The same problem remain... some people don't know Gambas and don't
want to know it because it's a BASIC. But the Gambas syntaxe is now a
modern Basic far more modern even than VB.
Long life to us :-)
2013/11/25 ukimiku :
> Monsieur,
>
> thanks for sharing.
>
> Over the last days, after my switch
Monsieur,
thanks for sharing.
Over the last days, after my switch from Windows to Linux, I have gotten to
know some of the basics of Gambas and am very pleased with the general ease
with which I can productively write GUI-based software in Gambas. Even the
speed is quite good for an interpreted l
Why not? They are hilarious!
On Nov 25, 2013 4:32 PM, "Kende Krisztián" wrote:
> 2013-11-25 20:09 keltezéssel, Benoît Minisini írta:
> > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUyNTM
> >
>
> Just don't read the comments. :-)
>
> Kendek
>
>
> --
2013-11-25 20:09 keltezéssel, Benoît Minisini írta:
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUyNTM
>
Just don't read the comments. :-)
Kendek
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