Re: gcc ABI compliance (was: Re: Memory Mangement Problem in5.1-RELEASE)

2003-08-06 Thread Narvi
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:22:00 -0700 > Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Didn't the GNU people say they had to change it to be more ABI compliant > > > with the 'standard'? > > > > I will believe that when they upgrade their FORTRAN c

Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse

2003-06-04 Thread Narvi
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On (2003/06/01 23:53), Narvi wrote: > > > > The absence of credible Java support in FreeBSD has lost us significant > > > penetration in the past, and it would be disastrous if the perceptions > > > of the past shaped th

Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse

2003-06-02 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On (2003/06/01 00:50), Daniel Eischen wrote: > > > > I just built jdk13 a couple of days ago. No problem whatsoever. You > > > guys must have rotten karma or something. > > > > Did you already have a native JDK installed? > > I built the native 1.4.1

Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon

2003-05-31 Thread Narvi
On Fri, 30 May 2003, Narvi wrote: [snip] Ahem.. i am very embarrassed about having sent the reply, everybody please pretend I was nowhere near the thread, pretty please? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon

2003-05-31 Thread Narvi
On Thu, 29 May 2003, [iso-8859-1] Thorsten Futrega wrote: > Dear users, > > The most important changes I'm going to commit today: > > - Remove gcc and replace it with a new TenDRA > snapshot. yay! but what about c++ support? > - Remove GNU tar. double yay! > - Fix httpd.ko to make it work on

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-29 Thread Narvi
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Marcin Dalecki wrote: > Harti Brandt wrote: > > > MD>NO no and again no. This would repeat the same design mistake > > MD>that is already in Linux. On API level you DO NOT WANT versioning. > > MD>What you really want is: type signature cheking. Like for example > > MD>done th

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread Narvi
On Tue, 27 May 2003, Scott Long wrote: > Q wrote: > > I have been burnt by this in the past also. I think that it would be > > useful if you could allow kernel modules to be bound to a particular > > kernel "version/date/whatever", and have external modules refuse to load > > and/or complain if t

Re: rand() is broken

2003-02-05 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Juli Mallett wrote: > * De: David Malone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ Data: 2003-02-02 ] > [ Subjecte: Re: rand() is broken ] > > On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 02:37:25PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > FreeBSD Redhat SunOS > > > 660787754660787754645318364 > > >

Re: rand() is broken

2003-02-05 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Andrey A. Chernov" writes: > >On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 19:32:50 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> Anyway, last time we discussed this, I think we stuck with the rand() > >> we had because we feared that people w

Re: rand() is broken

2003-02-05 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 17:30:48 +, Mark Murray wrote: > > > > Why not? Arc4 is a) deterministic and b) good for all bits. > > If you mean arc4random() function - not, because it use true randomness, > if you mean RC4 algorithm, probably yes, bu

Re: AMD AGP Bug

2002-02-04 Thread Narvi
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > Narvi wrote: > > Speculative writes can only happen to pages in the TLB (so you don't get > > speculative TLB misses and replacements), not having a large amount of 4M > > pages around in the TLB means that addresses covered b

Re: AMD AGP Bug

2002-02-04 Thread Narvi
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Peter Wemm wrote: > - AMD write cache allocation due to speculative writes being cancelled and > then written back later vs no cache snooping on AGP regions. I'm somewhat > perplexed about this issue, there's lots of conflicting info going around, > a good deal of it which

Re: ACPI project progress report

2000-06-21 Thread Narvi
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Narvi >writes: > : You obviously haven't considered the ability to be able to near hot-swap > : motherboard and cpu - or even RAM - in this way. > > The ACPI spec specifically states

Re: ACPI project progress report

2000-06-20 Thread Narvi
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 05:40:30PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > The real issue here is persistent system state across the S4 suspend; ie. > > leaving applications open, etc. IMO this isn't really something worth a > > lot of effort to us, and

Re: Archive pruning

2000-05-16 Thread Narvi
On Tue, 16 May 2000, David Scheidt wrote: > On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, David Scheidt wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Bush Doctor wrote: > > > > > Out of da blue David Scheidt aka ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > > > > > > > > Not incidently, SCO have waived the $100 license application fee, which > >

Re: Breaking "build world" costs $5? (was: Can we please have acurrent that compiles?)

2000-05-15 Thread Narvi
On Mon, 15 May 2000, Paul Richards wrote: > "Brian W. Buchanan" wrote: > > > > On Mon, 15 May 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > > > > I see this money scheme as an extension of the "finger pointing" > > > > which does nothing to build team spirit. > > > > > > That depends very much on the way it's

Re: rc.d startup scripts

2000-05-09 Thread Narvi
Errrmmm Really, did you check the archives for the issue? There used to be a real long thread on why/why not sysV style init scripts. It produced not one but several flamewars iirc 8-) In short - if we change from the present scheme, we want something better than just stop and restart ent

Re: Bluetooth

2000-04-19 Thread Narvi
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Brooks Davis wrote: > > I am still trying to find out about getting IEEE 1394 support -- cards have > > been available to me for at least 3 years!! > > Did you even read the licensing site? It's pretty clear that you > couldn't write code that Walnut Creek could ship on CD

Re: Bluetooth

2000-04-19 Thread Narvi
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Southwell wrote: > It would be good to be ahead of the game rather than behind it on this > occasion -- > > I am still trying to find out about getting IEEE 1394 support -- cards have > been available to me for at least 3 years!! > E... Do you also have docs? And did y

Re: FreeBSD Build status

2000-04-18 Thread Narvi
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nar > vi writes: > > >The summary of summaries would roughly look like this: > > > > Subject: -current build report > > > > Success: world, generic > > Fail: lint > > The First part of the email is a

Re: FreeBSD Build status

2000-04-18 Thread Narvi
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2000-Apr-18 08:07:45 +1000, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> As for the lists being tedious and long: I've sorted the content by > >> relevance, and it was my hope that over time they would shrink to > >> zero if we annoyed people

Re: Shared memory - Was: 2 Queries

2000-03-04 Thread Narvi
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Christopher Masto wrote: > On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 11:28:13AM -0800, John Polstra wrote: > > > It takes no more than a well-designed operating system service to > > > ensure that badly written programs don't fail to release resources > > > when they crash. > > > > We didn't

Re: Now that sigcontext is gone ...

1999-10-02 Thread Narvi
On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, David O'Brien wrote: > > > P.S. This also reminds me that FreeBSD is non-standard relative > > > to Linux and all of the major vender commercial Unices in that a disallowed > > > access, such as a write to a read-only region of memory, generates > > > a SIGBUS rather than a

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-23 Thread Narvi
On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > > > > Let me retract the Ghost in the Shell statement. I just checked, and > > my memory played tricks on me. It was a different letter effect. :-) > > > > Andrzej, can you somehow turn it into a p

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > > >On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I hate to keep bringing things like this up, or start a legal war, > > but this > > > > screensaver is more than likely a copyright and/

Re: "The Matrix" screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > > > > > I hate to keep bringing things like this up, or start a legal war, but this > > screensaver is more than likely a copyright and/or trademark violation, and > > bringing it into the source tree may

Re: pex5 and xie load errors

1999-08-15 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > Well, by "they" I hope you don't intend to mean modules in general. I am > happily using my Riva TNT with XFree86 3.3.3.1, which is a module (the GLX): > I mean specificly the pex.so module (xie module also usewd to be broken). > So what are the

Re: pex5 and xie load errors

1999-08-15 Thread Narvi
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Randy Bush wrote: > i just upgraded to current. i still have the following in my > /etc/XF86Config > > Section "Module" > Load"pex5.so" > Load"xie.so" > EndSection > > during X startup i get load errors for these. but i

Re: Kernel hacker tasks seek interested hackers

1999-08-15 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Narvi >writes: > > > >On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > >[snip] > > > >> > >> 7. [medium] The current naming for ptys doesn

Re: Kernel hacker tasks seek interested hackers

1999-08-15 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: [snip] > > 7. [medium] The current naming for ptys doesn't scale that > well. Changing it to ttyp%d / pty%d would probably be a > good idea in the long run, but the ramifications are > relatively widespread (think: "ports")

Re: KDE programs won't compile

1999-06-07 Thread Narvi
On 6 Jun 1999, Joel Ray Holveck wrote: > >> I can only assume that we install our KDE headers somewhere different than > >> the developers (primarily on Linux machines). > > By default, KDE installs to /usr/local/kde. On RedHat, the RPM > installs it to /opt/kde. All the includes are in > /usr

Re: Nt source licenses...

1999-05-16 Thread Narvi
On Sat, 15 May 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Sat, 15 May 1999, Narvi wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 14 May 1999, Garance A Drosehn wrote: > > > > > At 3:51 PM +0700 5/12/99, Ustimenko Semen wrote: > > > > Are we going to get this license? I am

Re: Nt source licenses...

1999-05-16 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 16 May 1999, Dean Lombardo wrote: > Garance A Drosehn wrote: > > > > At 3:51 PM +0700 5/12/99, Ustimenko Semen wrote: > > > Are we going to get this license? I am interested in NTFS > > > source code a lot... > > > > I would be very careful about getting an NT source license if > > your

Re: Nt source licenses...

1999-05-15 Thread Narvi
On Fri, 14 May 1999, Garance A Drosehn wrote: > At 3:51 PM +0700 5/12/99, Ustimenko Semen wrote: > > Are we going to get this license? I am interested in NTFS > > source code a lot... > > I would be very careful about getting an NT source license if > your intention is to write NTFS support for