extended slices on 5.0-RELEASE?

2003-02-03 Thread Mike Meyer
[I asked this on -questions, and got no response, so...] Is it just me, or has disklabel lost the ability to read/write from extended slices in 5.0-RELEASE? http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To

RE: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-03 Thread Mike Meyer
[Context lost to top posting.] Andrew Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > > How about editing the rc.conf file from the proposed virc program, that > would then re-generate the rc.conf file upon saving. Of course the virc > would store the underlying configuration in an xml config file.. That

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Mike Meyer
Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > I guess NIH beats an idea to death, even if the original > implementation bears no resemblence to the current one. The problem with the registry is not that it's a single place that tries to control everything. The problem with the registry is that you h

Re: FreeBSD-SA-01:19.local

2001-02-01 Thread Mike Meyer
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > Isn't it early for april fool's? > Nah. Easter eggs are in the shops. And the fools are forging mail. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email fo

Re: /etc/shells #include syntax support patch

2001-01-29 Thread Mike Meyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] types: > At 29 Jan 2001 11:49:36 +0100, > Dag-Erling Smorgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No. Mergemaster doesn't care about the contents of the file, only > > about its $FreeBSD$ tag. As long as this stays the same, it'll leave > > the file alone. If you remove the $FreeBSD$

Re: patch for test: /etc/shells -> /usr/local/etc/shells

2001-01-26 Thread Mike Meyer
Louis A. Mamakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > I think that /etc/X11 which came along with the XFree86 4 port is a > step in the right direction, too. Frankly, I'd rather have an /etc/local > than /usr/local/etc for that sort configuration data so that it's in > one place, and backed up along with

Re: Why would my IRQs suddenly move?

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Meyer
Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > > > After installing a fresh cvsup last Sunday, I find that my usb printer > > > quit working. Some investigation shows that this is because the uhci > > > and fxp are now

Re: Why would my IRQs suddenly move?

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Meyer
Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > > After installing a fresh cvsup last Sunday, I find that my usb printer > > quit working. Some investigation shows that this is because the uhci > > and fxp are now on the same IRQ. > Why would this cause your printer to stop working? Have you determined

Why would my IRQs suddenly move?

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Meyer
After installing a fresh cvsup last Sunday, I find that my usb printer quit working. Some investigation shows that this is because the uhci and fxp are now on the same IRQ. This hasn't been a problem previously. I haven't made any hardware changes in quite a while, and haven't mucked around with t

Re: lastest kernel from cvs ( sh exists with signal 8 )

2001-01-22 Thread Mike Meyer
John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > > On 22-Jan-01 Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Meyer writes: > >: Warner Losh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > >: > It is in the handbook, and has been for some time. I'm reviewi

Re: lastest kernel from cvs ( sh exists with signal 8 )

2001-01-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Warner Losh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > It is in the handbook, and has been for some time. I'm reviewing the > recent KERNEL -> KERNCONF changes to make sure that they make it into > the handbook properly (I assume there will be a MFC in a few days, > since putting KERNEL in /etc/make.conf is a

Re: VN bug or pilot error ?

2001-01-22 Thread Mike Meyer
eter > > > >-- > >Thierry Herbelot > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > [EMA

Re: current hangs...

2001-01-20 Thread Mike Meyer
Mark Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > > on a 2xPII/350, 256M, two scsi disks on ahc, and ccd I have three times > > now hung the machine so that only reset got any attention simply by > > make -j 128 world > > Do you have an easy way to narrow it down to CCD by doing the same > thing but w

/usr/local vs. /usr/pkg

2000-12-12 Thread Mike Meyer
Andreas Klemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 12:37:54AM -0500, David Gilbert wrote: > > ... but /usr/pkg supplanting /usr/local is one of the things that I > > like about NetBSD. > /usr/pkg sounds a little bit odd ... ( at least for my ears). > > Why not choose what Solaris

Re: [current] Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-11 Thread Mike Meyer
Michael C . Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > I know I should not jump into this bikeshed. But IMHO, whereever > we have our packages install to, we should also place > our ports metadata (/var/db/pkg) and the ports skeleton in the > same place, preferably a mountpoint. This allow me to switch > b

Re: Applix problems (Was: /usr/local abuse)

2000-12-11 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 05:24:19PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > At that point, you're running VistaSource's software, so they should > > give you the details. > Then I'll just back out of trying to help figure

Re: Applix problems (Was: /usr/local abuse)

2000-12-11 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 08:14:47AM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > The problem is that the shared libraries aren't getting found when I > > run the applix binary after a reboot. > Why do you say that? Where is the err

Applix problems (Was: /usr/local abuse)

2000-12-11 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:42:37PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > On the other hand, Applixware Office ships a precompiled package for > > /usr/local, and doesn't like being installed anywhere else. Which > > means I

Re: /usr/local abuse

2000-12-11 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:33:33PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > The thing is, the package system has grown into something more than > > that. It really is vendor-supplied and vendor-supported third party > > software, a

/usr/local abuse

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Warner Losh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nate Williams writes: > : I know that as recent as 3=4 years ago, Purify installed itself by > : default in /usr/local, on SunOS and Solaris. Lucid did this as well, > : although things start getting pretty fuzzy going back t

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Andrew Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 09:46:46PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote: > > Fixing broken things is a good thing. Your argument about moving it > > from /usr/local to show how broken is a good test procedure, but turning > > it into policy is something completely

/usr/local abuse

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Nate Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > > > > By your own admission, /usr/local wasn't used on v7. So the discussion > > > > should turn to when BSD started seeing prebuilt vendor packages to > > > > install in /usr/local. > > > Late '80s on DEC boxes running Ultrix (which one could argue is on

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Nate Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > I ran mostly DEC boxes until the early 90s, which had all software > installed in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin. Well, I ran DEC boxes for Dec (at WSE) back in the late 80s and early 90s, and don't remember anything being in /usr/local that I didn't drag of

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Andrew Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 12:31:10PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Not /usr/local - that's for locally maintained software. I'd rather it > > go on /usr, so I don't like /opt. When I got to choose, I chose > > /usr/

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Nate Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > > I'm aware that software was installing itself in /usr/local years > > before it was installing in /opt. On the other hand, vendor software > > was installing in /opt years before I ever saw it install in > > /usr/local. > Most vendor software I know pre

Re: PREFIX clean vs. LOCALBASE clean (Was: Package installation location)

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 02:19:12PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > > I intend "LOCALBASE clean" to mean "all files installed by other ports > > > > are looked for in the LOCALBASE tree". > &g

Re: /usr/local abuse

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Crist J. Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 01:51:25PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 12:26:38PM -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote: > > > To the extent that NetBSD *forces* the local administrator to use > > > /usr/pkg, I find it contains the same deficiency.

PREFIX clean vs. LOCALBASE clean (Was: Package installation location)

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > > Wherease "PREFIX clean" means "all installed files are in the PREFIX > > tree", > > Correct. > > > I intend "LOCALBASE clean" to mean "all files installed by other ports > > are looked for in the LOCALBASE tree". > > If all ports are PREFIX clean, yo

Re: /usr/local abuse

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Joe Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > David O'Brien writes: > > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:22:17AM -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote: > > > Basically, /usr/local is for anything the local administration wants to > > > officially support. The ports use of this (and by extension, > > > pre-compiled por

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > This control is part of why it would be nice to have /usr/pkg separate > from /usr/local. I've given up on FreeBSD and had to create my own > /usr/treats to hold what should have been in /usr/local if the FreeBSD > Packages hadn't polluted it. I went th

Re: Package installation location

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Brian Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 01:02:09PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > The problem is that *it doesn't work*. Well, not very well. Part of it > > is that it's only given lip service: the porters handbook says "make > > you

Re: /usr/local abuse

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Joe Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > Mike Meyer writes: > > Sure, the software in ports/packages aren't part of FreeBSD. Using > > that to claim they should have the same status or treatment as locally > > written or maintained software is a rationalization

Re: Package installation location

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Forrest Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > Haha... okay, then what's the argument about. > > You're about six years late. The ports system has used $PREFIX for > > precisely this purpose since October 1994. As Jacques pointed out, you set LOCALBASE in /etc/make.conf. The problem is that *it do

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Nat Lanza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Whether or not it's part of FreeBSD is immaterial. It's part of the > > distribution that comes from FreeBSD, and is treated differentlyh from > > locally installed soft

/usr/local abuse

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Joe Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > Mike Meyer writes: > > If memory serves (and it may not at this remove), /usr/local/bin > > wasn't on my path until I started using VAXen, meaning there were few > > or no packages installing in /usr/local on v6 & v7

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Garrett Wollman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > < said: > > However, FreeBSD is still the only vendor distribution I know of that > > installs software in /usr/local. That's the problem - software that > > comes from the vendor doesn't belong in the local administrative > > regime. > No software that

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Daniel C. Sobral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > Rant second: FreeBSD *violates* years of traditions with it's > > treatment of /usr/local. /usr/local is for *local* things, not add-on > > software packages! Coopting /usr/local for non-loc

Re: /usr/local misuse (Was: Confusing error messages from shell image activation)

2000-12-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Warner Losh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Meyer writes: > : I know. Unfortunately, support for PREFIX seems to draw more lip > : service than actual service. > Actually, which ports, specically, doesn't this work with? I've >

Re: /usr/local misuse (Was: Confusing error messages from shell image activation)

2000-12-09 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 01:59:51PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > I know. Unfortunately, support for PREFIX seems to draw more lip > > service than actual service. > I disagree. If one of the ports I maintain isn't

/usr/local misuse (Was: Confusing error messages from shell image activation)

2000-12-09 Thread Mike Meyer
Will Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 08:21:28PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Agreed. It would be nice if FreeBSD could use the same system as NetBSD, > > storing the packages/ports under /usr/pkg. > That's why PREFIX exists. I know. Unfortunately, support for P

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-09 Thread Mike Meyer
Brandon D. Valentine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > >There are other places where FreeBSD doesn't comply with the > >appropriate standard - packages vs. FHS, for instance. I claim that > We don't seek to comply with the arbitrarily devised linux filesystem > standard. We comply with hier(5), a stan

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-09 Thread Mike Meyer
Garrett Wollman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > < said: > > Um - compliance with what, exactly? > IEEE Std.1003.1-1990 et seq. Since no one has bothered to close this PR with a note that this noncompliance is unacceptable, I'm assuming that no one considers it so. Further, it's not clear that FreeBS

Re: USB modem?

2000-12-01 Thread Mike Meyer
Mark Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > > > I have a USB modem here, (Siemens), that I would like to get to work > > > under FreeBSD, but I can't even find the right tools to get vendor and > > > product ID's to add to usbdevs :-( > > Try looking in dmesg - USB device that don't have known produc

Re: your mail

2000-11-30 Thread Mike Meyer
Warner Losh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David O'Brien" writes: > : Except for stupidity in libdisk(I believe) and thus sysinstall, there is > : no, none, zero reason why one cannot have two installations of FreeBSD in > : two different slices on the same disk. > I'

Re: USB modem?

2000-11-30 Thread Mike Meyer
Mark Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > Does anyone here have experience on tryuing to add USB devices? I do. > I have a USB modem here, (Siemens), that I would like to get to work > under FreeBSD, but I can't even find the right tools to get vendor and > product ID's to add to usbdevs :-( Try

Re: your mail

2000-11-30 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 07:41:14PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Hmm - what's the stupidity? I have a test machine running both > > -current and -stable > Do you have the two FreeBSD installations on the same disk? If

Re: your mail

2000-11-29 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 08:06:14AM +0100, News User wrote: > > I'm building news machines with two partitions for OSen, to allow > > me to boot into my choice, where my choice has been FreeBSD-STABLE > > or FreeBSD-CURRENT to see how the two compare, and

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-11-23 Thread Mike Meyer
Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > * Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001122 22:41] wrote: > > Could I get some feedback on > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22755 >? It's just a > > one-line kernel patch with some attendant updates in

Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-11-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Could I get some feedback on http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22755 >? It's just a one-line kernel patch with some attendant updates in the kernel and libc, but it makes dealing with broken #! scripts *much* saner, and no one has even seen fit to comment on it yet :-(. Thanx,

Re: Proper permissons on /var/mail

2000-11-16 Thread Mike Meyer
Andresen,Jason R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > > < said: > > > > > I have a similar problem -- every time I make world, perms on /var/mail > > > get set to 775. Mutt considers my mailbox read-only until I change it > > > to 1777. > > > > It is misconfigured (or per

/dev/random thoughts

2000-10-30 Thread Mike Meyer
Like everyone else, I've been bit by /dev/random blocking because it didn't have enough entropy. I recently got bit after booting the system single-user to do some work, meaning nothing in the discussion about when/where/how to deal with the entropy information addressed this one. It seems like w

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

2000-10-25 Thread Mike Meyer
Gerhard Sittig writes: > What's new is: > - include the general config at the start (and yes, in every > single script -- but this should be neglectable in terms of > speed penalty and makes them work separately, too -- which is a > real big gain!) This isn't really new; it's been nagging m

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

2000-10-25 Thread Mike Meyer
Gerhard Sittig writes: > On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 06:04 +0700, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > Though I see your point, actually, many UNIX books, including > > some pretty old ones, refer to sending HUP signal as standard > > way of restarting/resetting daemons. > Please tell the software authors abou

Re: smp instability

2000-10-24 Thread Mike Meyer
Chuck Robey writes: > I'm having rather extreme problems with stability on my dual PIII > setup. I know this is to be expected, but it's gotten so extreme on my > system, I can't spend more than a few minutes before it locks up. > > Is there any chance that I could make things better by using a

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

2000-10-24 Thread Mike Meyer
Jordan Hubbard writes: > [redirected to just -current; I'm not sure what this has to do with -net] > > I agree. I've been using them for a while on my dog slow Windows CE > > machine. There were some minor issues when they were first committed > > to NetBSD on some platforms (due to a too early

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

2000-10-24 Thread Mike Meyer
Alexey Dokuchaev writes: > > Well, we *already* have over a dozen /etc/rc.* files on -current. And > > we *don't* have the advantage of a consistent interface to control all > > the functions in /etc/rc. If you break things up, then if you need to > > restart the mail server, just go "/etc/rc.d/s

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

2000-10-24 Thread Mike Meyer
Garrett Rooney writes: > On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 04:49:40AM +0700, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > Well, would not be this stepping aside from BSD startup sequence, which we > > all know and love? Having dozens of small files instead of pair of > > big ones always frustrates me when I have to work wi

Re: /boot partition?

2000-10-15 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien writes: > On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 07:18:05PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > Nope, the loader can load stuff from other partitions, even from some strange > > ones like msdos ;), so theoretically it should be possible to have /boot, or > > even /boot/kernel, on another partition (it

Re: today's -current xl0 wigs out

2000-10-14 Thread Mike Meyer
Mark Hittinger writes: > Upon an 'ifconfig xl0' the kernel hangs. If I don't ifconfig xl0 I can > still use pppd ok. Well, you're not alone. I note that the same code works fine in my machine with an fxp.

system lockups in -current - during boot.

2000-10-14 Thread Mike Meyer
I'm getting hard lockups booting a -current kernel supped about 6 hours ago. If I try to boot multiuser, I get a message about the ethernet interface being configured, and then nothing. If I boot single user, it comes up fine, and I can configure the NIC. The system then locks up maybe 10 seconds

Re: /boot partition?

2000-10-13 Thread Mike Meyer
Maxim Sobolev writes: > "Michael C . Wu" wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 07:22:20AM -0500, Mike Meyer scribbled: > > | Just curious - now that the kernel has moved into /boot/kernel/kernel, > > | does anyone know how well would it work to put /boot in it's o

/boot partition?

2000-10-13 Thread Mike Meyer
Just curious - now that the kernel has moved into /boot/kernel/kernel, does anyone know how well would it work to put /boot in it's own partition (possibly in it's own slice)? Thanx,

Upgrading -stable -> -current, boot failure?

2000-10-11 Thread Mike Meyer
I've got a system with 4.1-STABLE installed. I mount -current sources on it, do make buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld and reboot. The boot loader runs, gives me the "booting default in..." countdown, prints "|", and then stops. After thrashing the disks (with *no* boot messages),

Re: video mpeg broken?

2000-10-10 Thread Mike Meyer
Nickolay Dudorov writes: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > It seems that something has broken plaympeg - at least for video. In > > trying to play video back, I get a black window and no images. Audio > > playback seems fine. This is something I don't do often, so I'm not > > sure w

video mpeg broken?

2000-10-10 Thread Mike Meyer
It seems that something has broken plaympeg - at least for video. In trying to play video back, I get a black window and no images. Audio playback seems fine. This is something I don't do often, so I'm not sure when it happened. Anyone else seeing this? Anyone working on it? Thanx,

re: sio problems?

2000-10-08 Thread Mike Meyer
attila! writes: > on Sat, 7 Oct 2000 20:03:12 -0500 (CDT), Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > I recently got my digital camera back out, and started pulling the old > > pictures from it. I noticed something I hadn't ever seen before - silo > > overflows from

sio problems?

2000-10-07 Thread Mike Meyer
I recently got my digital camera back out, and started pulling the old pictures from it. I noticed something I hadn't ever seen before - silo overflows from the sio port. At the moment, I'm wondering if this is a known problem that is being investigated (SMPNG comes to mind), or something new.

Re: ext2fs support for writing - what's the verdict?

2000-10-04 Thread Mike Meyer
Jordan Hubbard writes: > That's a nice idea and may work in my particular case, but this is > also the out-of-box configuration for Red Hat and most > Linux-to-FreeBSD users wouldn't know a tune2fs if it snuck up and bit > them on the ass in broad daylight. How hard would it be to support > spars

Problem with buildkernel & modules...

2000-10-02 Thread Mike Meyer
I've had a persistent (but minor) problem building -current kernels for a while. I was hoping someone had a fix before taking time to figure out exactly what was broken myself. Basically, the build goes: linking kernel textdata bss dec hex filename 1869802 297944 2299408 44671

Re: (Semi-)automatic update of installed ports (was: Re: pw_class in _pw_passwd is null if __hashpw() is not called in prior)

2000-09-30 Thread Mike Meyer
Seigo Tanimura writes: > On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 13:35:48 -0500 (CDT), Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Mike> Seigo Tanimura writes: > >> Completely automatic update of installed ports is acutally difficult > >> because we cannot get to know the language or re

Re: setting device permissions for DEVFS

2000-09-30 Thread Mike Meyer
Alexander Langer writes: > Thus spake Mike Meyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Does it possibly belong in /etc/defaults/rc.devfs, to slurp in > > /etc/rc.devfs (if it exists) at the end? > No - instead we should add something like devfs_permission{0,1,2,etc} > (and maybe ownersh

Re: pw_class in _pw_passwd is null if __hashpw() is not called in prior

2000-09-30 Thread Mike Meyer
Seigo Tanimura writes: > On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:55:55 -0500, > "Jacques A. Vidrine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> It would also be helpful for us to (semi-)automatically update old > >> binaries installed by ports. (I have been trying this for a couple of > >> days) > Jacques> Personally I don'

Re: setting device permissions for DEVFS

2000-09-30 Thread Mike Meyer
Alexander Langer writes: > Thus spake Donn Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > What is the suggested best way to set permissions on devices in DEVFS? > > > (I want to chmod 664 /dev/acd0c to let users in the group operator > > > burn CD-R's). > > > Do we already have a common way that I missed? > >

Re: PRE_SMPNG snap

2000-09-19 Thread Mike Meyer
Vallo Kallaste writes: > On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 03:01:28PM -0500, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I've had a ton of experience with ahc lately, as those of you who follow > > > -questions, -stable, or -scsi know. r1.48 of aic7xxx.c is horribly

periodic no longer usable by users?

2000-09-18 Thread Mike Meyer
It seems that recent (the last two weeks?) changes to periodic have changed things so that non-root users of it no longer get any output. A simple fix would be to change the default output to $USER (not yet tested). However, having a user-specific periodic.conf would be a lot more useful. But I w

Re: Kernel builds to wrong location?

2000-09-16 Thread Mike Meyer
Ben Smithurst writes: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > I cvsupped and rebuilt earlier to today, only to find that the kernel > > was installed as /boot/kernel/kernel instead of > > /boot/kernel/kernel.ko. While fixing this was trivial, it was a bit of > > a surprise. > >

Kernel builds to wrong location?

2000-09-16 Thread Mike Meyer
I cvsupped and rebuilt earlier to today, only to find that the kernel was installed as /boot/kernel/kernel instead of /boot/kernel/kernel.ko. While fixing this was trivial, it was a bit of a surprise. Is this a bug, or did I happen to catch the world in a state of change described in a cvs-all or

Re: PRE_SMPNG snap

2000-09-16 Thread Mike Meyer
Brandon D. Valentine writes: > On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > >Err, AFAIK, the only instability atm is that under heavy load some ahc > >controllers seem to hang (or possibly the ahc driver is getting out of > >sorts and hanging.) However, the problem is not so bad that you can't > I'

Re: Star Office and editor

2000-09-14 Thread Mike Meyer
I just realized this may be a difference due to a between -current and -stable, so I've moved discussion to -current to check. Apologies if this was the wrong thing to do. On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Mike Meyer wrote: > It then fails to install for me with the error messages: > >

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Mike Meyer
Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Smithurs > t writes: > >Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > >> I must admit that I think in general that /dev/std{in,out,err} and /dev/fd > >> is bogus. It looks like something which happened "because we can" more > >> than something whic

Re: page fault in sched_ithd

2000-09-09 Thread Mike Meyer
Ben Smithurst writes: > After poking around a bit with remote GDB, this seems to be caused by a > stray IRQ 7, since irq == 7, ir == ithds[irq] == NULL, ir->foo == BOOM. > > The attached rather crude patch has "fixed" the problem for now, but > does anyone have any suggestions for a real fix? Is

Re: cvs commit: src/bin/ps print.c src/share/man/man9 mutex.9 Makefile src/usr.bin/top machine.c src/sys/alpha/alpha mp_machdep.c synch_machdep.c clock.c genassym.c interrupt.c ipl_funcs.c locore.s machdep.c mem.c pmap.c prom.c support.s swtch.s trap.c ...

2000-09-06 Thread Mike Meyer
Jason Evans writes: > jasone 2000/09/06 18:33:03 PDT > > Modified files: > bin/ps print.c [...] Nice try, but you didn't fool me. That's the SMP patch, even if the first change in the first modified file is a spelling fix in a comment in userland code! Nice to see it's

Re: AIC-7890 problems with kernel build

2000-09-04 Thread Mike Meyer
Mitsuru IWASAKI writes: > All I can say is that acpi is initilized after pcib and its children > are attached so I don't think ACPI code affects PCI stuff... > > > # Power management support (see LINT for more options) > > #device apm > > device acpi > > Could you disabl

Re: AIC-7890 problems with kernel build

2000-09-04 Thread Mike Meyer
Chris Hedley writes: > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Brandon Hume wrote: > > Just after the "waiting for SCSI devices to settle" message, I'll get a > > number of SCB errors (which I don't have written down, unfortunately), and > > then eventually a panic. This is with ACPI enabled... if I don't enable >

3dfx module broken

2000-09-02 Thread Mike Meyer
Looks like 3dfx & linux emulation aren't mixing well. Since I don't use 3dfx, I turn off that module. What we really need is a system that lets me specify *which* modules to build. Hmmm. 3dfx make: don't know how to make @/i386/linux/linux_ioctl.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /sh

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-29 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien writes: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 06:29:21PM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 10:25:26AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > At the very least, there appears to be confusion about how to use the > > > 2. You must have a /boot/device.hints file, and it must contain a

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-29 Thread Mike Meyer
First, I want to thank everyone for taking the time to explain what was going on. It's now clear that I was confused, and things aren't as bad as I thought. I'd like to see the Makefile changes so that if there wasn't an empty /boot/device.hints, one was created, but that's relatively minor. Broo

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
Maxim Sobolev writes: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > > > Will the system fail to boot if there isn't an empty device.hints > > > > file? > > > No, it will boot, but some devices (like keyboard, console etc) would not work. > > > > That's cle

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
Maxim Sobolev writes: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > > Donn Miller writes: > > > Mike Meyer wrote: > > > > I do read cvs-all, and I missed it. Not did I find device.hints in the > > > > relevant Makefiles. Can you provide a pointer to details on how &g

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
Donn Miller writes: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > I do read cvs-all, and I missed it. Not did I find device.hints in the > > relevant Makefiles. Can you provide a pointer to details on how > > /boot/device.hints is used in the build process, or how having an > > empty

Installkernel

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
James Johnson writes: > The method of building and installing a kernel to me seems a bit off.. Both > the buildworld and installworld targets default to GENERIC, yet GENERIC is a > file checked into the -CURRENT CVS repository.. Any changes to this file > will get blown away if whenever you update

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
Brooks Davis writes: > On Sun, Aug 27, 2000 at 09:33:21PM +0900, Motomichi Matsuzaki wrote: > > Doing 'make install' without /boot/device.hints is failed, > > saying "You must set up a /boot/device.hints file first." > > Is this right? > You should read cvs-all. There was a commit by Peter which

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-24 Thread Mike Meyer
Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami writes: > * From: Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Mike Meyer wrote: > * > How does it decide whether or not a package conforms? > * Probably by looking for files which get installed in /usr/local or >

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-23 Thread Mike Meyer
Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami writes: > * From: Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * However, I was wondering if there was anyone who could fix things that > * weren't PREFIX clean who would also find them on a regular > * basis. That's not you. > I can help yo

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-23 Thread Mike Meyer
Konstantin Chuguev writes: > "Jacques A. Vidrine" wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 01:01:59AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > Um - why? If you removed the setting of LOCALBASE in that case, you > > > wouldn't change the disk layout at all. > > I p

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-23 Thread Mike Meyer
Mark Murray writes: > > However, I was wondering if there was anyone who could fix things that > > weren't PREFIX clean who would also find them on a regular > > basis. That's not you. > There is a non-trivial Perl5 LOCALBASE problem that I'm trying to > get my head around. I'm actually discussin

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-23 Thread Mike Meyer
Mark Murray writes: > > However, I was wondering if there was anyone who could fix things that > > weren't PREFIX clean who would also find them on a regular > > basis. That's not you. > There is a non-trivial Perl5 LOCALBASE problem that I'm trying to > get my head around. If this is the problem

Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Jacques A. Vidrine writes: > On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 11:59:26PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > > I'm curious - are there any committers who regularly use a system with > > LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local? > > I have LOCALBASE=/opt for a couple of years now

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Brian Fundakowski Feldman writes: > One thing that's missing is the ioctl CDRIOCSETBLOCKSIZE. It would > be _really_ nice if cd(4) supported that ioctl so I could just seek > and read from a CD. I had knu trying out my read_cd program, and it > doesn't work for SCSI CD-ROMs, seemingly because of

Re: Q: encrypted swap

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Mark Murray writes: > > So, I think having the option to use encrypted swap on FreeBSD > > would be nice. Is anybody already working on this? If not, how do > > I get somebody to work on it? ;-) > Ever since the Phoenecians invented money, there has been at least > one guaranteed answer to that :

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