Re: Un-sucking EINVAL

2025-05-22 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 03:59:14PM +, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 08:04:19AM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 11:23:12PM +, Brooks Davis wrote: > > > On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 11:07:09AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > In short, I'd love to wid

Re: Updating build and jail manual pages to include missing or obscure information

2025-05-22 Thread Chris
On 2025-05-22 14:14, Billiam Crashkopf wrote: On 5/22/25 12:27, Lexi Winter wrote: resin-free...@g-cipher.net: Just to share my two cents: I think all available options should be documented in the manual. i'm fine with having 'make world' documented somewhere, although such documentation shoul

Re: Updating build and jail manual pages to include missing or obscure information

2025-05-22 Thread Chris
On 2025-05-22 14:14, Billiam Crashkopf wrote: On 5/22/25 12:27, Lexi Winter wrote: resin-free...@g-cipher.net: Just to share my two cents: I think all available options should be documented in the manual. i'm fine with having 'make world' documented somewhere, although such documentation shoul

Re: epair(4)

2025-05-22 Thread Marek Zarychta
W dniu 22.05.2025 o 23:06, Patrick M. Hausen pisze: Hi all, Am 22.05.2025 um 22:15 schrieb void : I think, from what other list members have written also, that many did as I did:- looked at the virtualization part of the handbook, found all what was required there to get started, and thats it.

Re: epair(4)

2025-05-22 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi all, > Am 22.05.2025 um 22:15 schrieb void : > I think, from what other list members have written also, that many did as I > did:- looked at the virtualization part of the handbook, found all what > was required there to get started, and thats it. They would probably not > (as I didn't) see th

Re: epair(4)

2025-05-22 Thread void
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 07:40:52PM +0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: The handbook has always been clear about the only correct way to configure a bridge and member interfaces since the introduction of if_bridge(4) and the removal of the previous bridge(4) in 2007: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/doc/h

Re: HEADS UP: 15.0-CURRENT, change to bridge(4) might break some network configurations with “Invalid argument”

2025-05-22 Thread void
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 08:09:13PM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote: as kp said, this is broken, but you can trivially fix it by moving the IP addresses to the bridge interface instead. note that for SLAAC to work on a bridge, you have to set ‘accept_rtadv’ and ‘auto_linklocal’ on the bridge interface

Re: Updating build and jail manual pages to include missing or obscure information

2025-05-22 Thread Lexi Winter
resin-free...@g-cipher.net: > On 5/22/25 09:16, Lexi Winter wrote: > > note that 'make world' already doesn't work unless you're using DESTDIR > > (or you set a special make knob) so it shouldn't be documented as a way > > of upgrading the system in general, e.g. in build(7). > Just to share my tw

Re: Updating build and jail manual pages to include missing or obscure information

2025-05-22 Thread resin-freebsd
On 5/22/25 09:16, Lexi Winter wrote: Warner Losh: On Thu, May 22, 2025, 7:40 AM Alexander Ziaee wrote: There seems to be a rough consensus that we should remove the world and kernel targets. I object to removing these. I do agree we should document other methods, but my spidt sense is this

Re: HEADS UP: 15.0-CURRENT, change to bridge(4) might break some network configurations with “Invalid argument”

2025-05-22 Thread Lexi Winter
void: > On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 11:33:50AM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote: > > in short, following this commit... > > > > b61850c4e6f "bridge(4): default net.link.bridge.member_ifaddrs to false" > > https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=b61850c4e6f6b0f21b36da7238db969d9090309e > > > > ...it is now im

Re: epair(4)

2025-05-22 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi all, > Am 22.05.2025 um 02:14 schrieb void : > > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 09:21:29PM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote: > >> i am not sure about this. i admit i have not done a survey :-) however, >> i believe most people using jails or bhyve are not affected. the >> Handbook is clear about the corre

Re: Updating build and jail manual pages to include missing or obscure information

2025-05-22 Thread David Wolfskill
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 06:05:34PM +0100, void wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 07:56:38AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > I object to removing these. I do agree we should document other methods, > > but my spidt sense is this is still in use... > > I object also. `make kernel` is useful if onl

Re: Updating build and jail manual pages to include missing or obscure information

2025-05-22 Thread void
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 07:56:38AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: I object to removing these. I do agree we should document other methods, but my spidt sense is this is still in use... I object also. `make kernel` is useful if only for that by using it, one doesn't need to type `make buildkernel &&

Re: Updating build and jail manual pages to include missing or obscure information

2025-05-22 Thread Lexi Winter
Warner Losh: > On Thu, May 22, 2025, 7:40 AM Alexander Ziaee wrote: > > There seems to be a rough consensus that we should remove the world and > > kernel targets. > > I object to removing these. I do agree we should document other methods, > but my spidt sense is this is still in use... note th

Re: Un-sucking EINVAL

2025-05-22 Thread Brooks Davis
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 08:04:19AM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 11:23:12PM +, Brooks Davis wrote: > > On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 11:07:09AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > > In short, I'd love to widen the interface, but there's a number of > > > practical > > > issue

Re: Updating build and jail manual pages to include missing or obscure information

2025-05-22 Thread Warner Losh
On Thu, May 22, 2025, 7:40 AM Alexander Ziaee wrote: > On 2025-05-22 02:05 -04:00 EDT, "Dave Cottlehuber" > wrote: > > On Tue, 20 May 2025, at 21:17, Billiam Crashkopf wrote: > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I recently had a bit of trouble finding the proper make targets to > build > >> and install the

Re: Updating build and jail manual pages to include missing or obscure information

2025-05-22 Thread Alexander Ziaee
On 2025-05-22 02:05 -04:00 EDT, "Dave Cottlehuber" wrote: > On Tue, 20 May 2025, at 21:17, Billiam Crashkopf wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I recently had a bit of trouble finding the proper make targets to build >> and install the base FreeBSD system from source into an empty directory >> for use i