Hans Petter Selasky wrote on 23/9/21 5:55 pm:
I've always used "tcsh" for root. The little help you get on the command
line to search and repeat commands is very useful compared to plain "sh".
+1
Dirk Meyer wrote:
>Baptiste Daroussin schrieb:,
[stuff snipped]
>
>We have already "toor" for sh.
As an aside, I will note that having multiple passwd entries for the same uid
somewhat
breaks the mapping done by nfsuserd(8), since it will map the uid to one of the
names.
It is not a big issue, b
On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 09:20:51PM +0200, Johan Hendriks wrote:
>
> On 23/09/2021 19:52, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 12:43:01AM +0900, Tomoaki AOKI wrote:
> > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 23:09:05 +0900
> > > Tomoaki AOKI wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 05:47:46 -070
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 10:36:45AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> Hello,
>
> TL;DR: this is not a proposal to deorbit csh from base!!!
>
> For years now, csh is the default root shell for FreeBSD, csh can be confusing
> as a default shell for many as all other unix like settled on a bourne sh
On 9/22/21 8:52 AM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 08:34:58AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote:
>>> I think this is fine. I would also be fine with either removing 'toor'
>>> from the
>>> default password file or just leaving it as-is for POLA. (I would probably
>>> prefer removi
On 23/09/2021 19:52, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 12:43:01AM +0900, Tomoaki AOKI wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 23:09:05 +0900
Tomoaki AOKI wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 05:47:46 -0700
David Wolfskill wrote:
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 02:39:37PM +0200, Johan Hendriks wrote:
> On 23 Sep 2021, at 19:52, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
>
> If you do not load nvidia-modeset.ko at all, does the boot proceed?
>
> When the boot hangs, can you enter into ddb?
That also brings up a question: Does nvidia kmods (and probably also drm kmod)
match the kernel?
—
Juraj Lutter
o
On Sep 23, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Lucas Nali de Magalhães
wrote:
>
>
>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 5:38 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>>
>> TL;DR: this is not a proposal to deorbit csh from base!!! (…)
>
> I'm used to see FreeBSD remembered as a traditional OS full of professionalism
> and open to in
> On Sep 22, 2021, at 5:38 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> TL;DR: this is not a proposal to deorbit csh from base!!! (…)
I'm used to see FreeBSD remembered as a traditional OS full of professionalism
and open to innovation. The front door for the BSD world and an OS that doesn't
copy Linux. But m
On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 12:43:01AM +0900, Tomoaki AOKI wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 23:09:05 +0900
> Tomoaki AOKI wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 05:47:46 -0700
> > David Wolfskill wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 02:39:37PM +0200, Johan Hendriks wrote:
> > > > I did a git pull this mo
On 2021-09-23 09:40, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz>:
> On 22/09/2021 22:50, grarpamp wrote:
>>> propose to make it the default shell for root starting FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE
...
Whoever wants is free to add other users with root pemissions is free
to do so.
I'd say, leave it as it is.
People are used to it since over 30 years.
Where does it hurt?
regards,
chris
> On 9/22/21 10:36 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > TL;DR: this is not a proposal to deorbit csh from base!!!
> >
> > For years now, csh is the default root shell for FreeBSD, csh can be
> > confusing
> > as a default shell for many as all other unix like settled on a bourne shel
On 2021-09-23 09:40:50, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
Those who DO like it changed, have already made changes to have it
changed, so changing the default only adds to work for both parties, to
me a net loss.
Aren't you forgetting about someone?
>
> Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz>:
>
> > On 22/09/2021 22:50, grarpamp wrote:
> >>> propose to make it the default shell for root starting FreeBSD
> >>> 14.0-RELEASE
> >>
> >> Make it so.
> >>
> >> The whole rest of rc, pkg, base scripts and subsystems use a lot of
> >> sh, not c
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 23:09:05 +0900
Tomoaki AOKI wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 05:47:46 -0700
> David Wolfskill wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 02:39:37PM +0200, Johan Hendriks wrote:
> > > I did a git pull this morning and it fails to boot.
> > > I hangs at Setting hostid : 0x917bf354
> > >
On 2021-09-23 02:29, Mike Bristow wrote:
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 10:00:49AM -0300, Renato Botelho wrote:
+1 for keeping this behavior on default config
-1 for this.
Things should be as default-as-possible, so that the behaviour of
/bin/sh as root on FreeBSD is unsuprising to someone used to /
On 2021-09-23 01:55, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
On 9/22/21 10:36 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
Hello,
TL;DR: this is not a proposal to deorbit csh from base!!!
For years now, csh is the default root shell for FreeBSD, csh can be
confusing
as a default shell for many as all other unix like settled
Gary Jennejohn wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 08:52:53 -0700 (PDT)
> "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote:
>
> > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 08:34:58AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote:
> > > > On 9/22/21 1:36 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > TL;DR: this is not a proposal to deorbi
On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 02:38:27PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> On 28/08/2021 17:28, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> >
> > This seems to be related to the recent change to install manual pages
> > for all platforms.
> >
> > My method of creating a cross-platform installation image is to install
> > with NO
On 28/08/2021 17:28, Andriy Gapon wrote:
This seems to be related to the recent change to install manual pages for all
platforms.
My method of creating a cross-platform installation image is to install with
NO_ROOT and then to tar up with @METALOG argument.
On the destination I simply untar
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 10:00:49AM -0300, Renato Botelho wrote:
> +1 for keeping this behavior on default config
-1 for this.
Things should be as default-as-possible, so that the behaviour of
/bin/sh as root on FreeBSD is unsuprising to someone used to /bin/sh
on other systems or users, because t
On 9/22/21 10:36 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
Hello,
TL;DR: this is not a proposal to deorbit csh from base!!!
For years now, csh is the default root shell for FreeBSD, csh can be confusing
as a default shell for many as all other unix like settled on a bourne shell
compatible interactive shel
On 23/09/2021 10:13, Rolf M. Dietze wrote:
Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz>:
On 22/09/2021 22:50, grarpamp wrote:
propose to make it the default shell for root starting FreeBSD
14.0-RELEASE
Make it so.
The whole rest of rc, pkg, base scripts and subsystems use a lot of
sh, not
Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz>:
On 22/09/2021 22:50, grarpamp wrote:
propose to make it the default shell for root starting FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE
Make it so.
The whole rest of rc, pkg, base scripts and subsystems use a lot of
sh, not csh.
So this is a good compatibility, con
Hi,
I've always used "tcsh" for root. The little help you get on the command
line to search and repeat commands is very useful compared to plain "sh".
Sorry for top-posting.
--HPS
On 22/09/2021 22:50, grarpamp wrote:
propose to make it the default shell for root starting FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE
Make it so.
The whole rest of rc, pkg, base scripts and subsystems use a lot of sh, not csh.
So this is a good compatibility, consistancy, and gotcha-removing update,
needed for dec
+100 for keeping this behavior on default config ;-)
On 22/09/21 15:00, Renato Botelho wrote:
> +1 for keeping this behavior on default config
>
> On 22/09/21 06:19, Daniel Morante via freebsd-current wrote:
>> Will history/completion continue to work the same way? (for example
>> typing part of
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