Re: lnc0: broke for us between 3.1 and 4.0?

1999-04-16 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Robert Watson wrote: > We upgraded a crash machine from 3.1-RELEASE to 4.0-CURRENT from just > before the EGCS switch was pulled. The machine is a Pentium 166 MMX > overdrive. Prior to the upgrade, it correctly probed the Kensington KNE > 2100 (something like th

Re: make aout-to-elf on -current?

1999-04-16 Thread David O'Brien
> > No. make aout-to-elf builds a.out versions of everything first, then > > uses them to build the elf versions. > > Correct. Older compilers would not be able to generate elf targets, > so we have to update the compiler first. Right. But the 2.x system should build the compiler (and bootstra

RE: new-bus breaks both sound drivers

1999-04-16 Thread Chris Piazza
On 17-Apr-99 Brian Feldman wrote: > Both sound drivers are broken with the new-bus code. My SB16, in the old > driver, now gets recognized but sbxvi is never looked for. pcm0, the new > driver, never initializes with the new code :( > > device pcm0 at isa? port? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x16 > The

Re: make aout-to-elf on -current?

1999-04-16 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <19990416202430.c70...@nuxi.com> "David O'Brien" writes: > : Please excuse my ignorance, but why does make aout-to-elf require the > : -CURRENT compiler to produce a.out binaries? > : > : make aout-to-elf moves a working set of a.out libraries to ---/lib/aout, > :

new-bus breaks both sound drivers

1999-04-16 Thread Brian Feldman
Both sound drivers are broken with the new-bus code. My SB16, in the old driver, now gets recognized but sbxvi is never looked for. pcm0, the new driver, never initializes with the new code :( device pcm0 at isa? port? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x16 #controller snd0 #device sb0 at isa? port

Re: Wiring down disks under newbus (was: HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users!)

1999-04-16 Thread David O'Brien
> >> It doesn't have to. I have only one reference in my config: > >> > >> device da0 at scbus1 target 0 unit 0 I commented out my "device da0" and changed all my "disk"'s (16 of them across two controlers) to "devices"'s and I was able to config and build a kernel. So the distin

Re: make aout-to-elf on -current?

1999-04-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message <19990416202430.c70...@nuxi.com> "David O'Brien" writes: : Please excuse my ignorance, but why does make aout-to-elf require the : -CURRENT compiler to produce a.out binaries? : : make aout-to-elf moves a working set of a.out libraries to ---/lib/aout, : so doesn't that cover the needs?

Wiring down disks under newbus (was: HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users!)

1999-04-16 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 16 April 1999 at 20:06:08 -0700, David O'Brien wrote: >>> device da0 > ..snip.. >>> diskda0 at scbus2 target 0 > >> Err, perhaps it's because you've defined da0 twice? > > Is this a change? For pre-POST_NEWBUS When wireing down SCSI disks, the > config file has both

Re: make aout-to-elf on -current?

1999-04-16 Thread David O'Brien
> > Does make aout-to-elf still purport to work from a 2.2.8R system to a > > recent (like today's) current? > After reading the UPDATING file, I realized just how silly a question > this was :-). a.out make world is broken in -current with egcs. Please excuse my ignorance, but why does make aou

Re: make aout-to-elf on -current?

1999-04-16 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 04:42:37PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 16 April 1999 at 0:54:32 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > Does make aout-to-elf still purport to work from a 2.2.8R system to > > a recent (like today's) current? > > I spent a week trying to upgrade from 3.0-CURRENT of about A

Re: HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users!

1999-04-16 Thread David O'Brien
> > device da0 ..snip.. > > diskda0 at scbus2 target 0 > Err, perhaps it's because you've defined da0 twice? Is this a change? For pre-POST_NEWBUS When wireing down SCSI disks, the config file has both a da0 device (to get the generic SCSI disk code) and disk (to wire it dow

Re: some news about ftp hangs

1999-04-16 Thread Adrian Wontroba
On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 12:46:34PM -0400, Luoqi Chen wrote: > By the way, if I turn off aliasing (set alias enable off), ftp works > fine again. With a week old current cvsupped at approx 0500 GMT on 11 April I see similar behaviour - ftp seems fine with aliasing off, but often hangs with aliasin

Re: cable modem

1999-04-16 Thread Alfred Perlstein
gt; with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Why not just download a kern.flp and mfsroot.flp from : ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/ /3.1-19990416-STABLE/floppies/ 'dd' (in linux) them to a disk or use: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/

Re: Consistent errors making buildworld

1999-04-16 Thread Luoqi Chen
Do you have an empty /usr/X11R6/include? The Makefile assumes you have the header files if the directory /usr/X11R6/include is present and tries to build the X version of doscmd. This assumption may not be true though. I'll change the Makefile to check for /usr/X11R6/include/X11/X.h instead. By the

Re: HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users!

1999-04-16 Thread Peter Wemm
Chris Csanady wrote: > > >As of a few minutes ago, a minimal set of changes to bring the so-called > >'new-bus' functionality to the i386 kernel in -current. > > This seems to have broken disk wiring for me. Is there some necessary > change in syntax that I am not aware of? > > I have the follo

Re: cvsup

1999-04-16 Thread Olaf Wagner
In article you wrote: > Daniel Eischen wrote: >> John Polstra wrote: >> >>> My hunch is that it's not a fairness issue. It's just the fact that >>> when you block in disk I/O, the whole process (all threads) blocks. >> >> That statement made me think that Modula-3 had it's own threading >> supp

Re: HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users!

1999-04-16 Thread Chris Csanady
>As of a few minutes ago, a minimal set of changes to bring the so-called >'new-bus' functionality to the i386 kernel in -current. This seems to have broken disk wiring for me. Is there some necessary change in syntax that I am not aware of? I have the following scsi related stuff in my config

lnc0: broke for us between 3.1 and 4.0?

1999-04-16 Thread Robert Watson
We upgraded a crash machine from 3.1-RELEASE to 4.0-CURRENT from just before the EGCS switch was pulled. The machine is a Pentium 166 MMX overdrive. Prior to the upgrade, it correctly probed the Kensington KNE 2100 (something like that) with the lnc driver as being at 0x300 irq 5 drq 6. The wo

cable modem

1999-04-16 Thread s1ayer
Hi, I was wondering. Does the new version of freeBSD support my SMC-Ultra EtherEZ cable modem? If it does, I will throw away Linux and convert. Thanks in advance To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Consistent errors making buildworld

1999-04-16 Thread Joe Abley
Hi, I've been trying to make buildworld on an aged Compaq DX2 (using newly- supped CURRENT source) for about a week now, and (modulo the few egcs-looking failures early on) I am now stuck with compilation failures in doscmd. I have completely removed /usr/obj/* prior to starting, each time, and t

Re: /etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.conf.local

1999-04-16 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Thomas Dean wrote: > > I see the latest /etc/defaults/rc.conf will include either or both of > /etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.conf.local. > > I only want to have one. > > Which is going to stay with us the longest? /etc/rc.conf, though rc.conf.local is not likely to go away. The former is the "do your

Updating ports after change to egcs

1999-04-16 Thread Thomas Dean
I am running 4.0-current of April 12. 1999. I just finished updating my ports after the change to egcs-2.91.66. I know they were OK as they were, but, I wanted to eliminate all the gcc compiled things. And, this was a good time. I had to fix a couple of applications with bad code. Everything e

HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users!

1999-04-16 Thread Peter Wemm
As of a few minutes ago, a minimal set of changes to bring the so-called 'new-bus' functionality to the i386 kernel in -current. This is a complete, from the ground up, change in the way the system boots and configures. For the most part, we've gone to a lot of trouble to make it work the way it

/etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.conf.local

1999-04-16 Thread Thomas Dean
I see the latest /etc/defaults/rc.conf will include either or both of /etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.conf.local. I only want to have one. Which is going to stay with us the longest? tomdean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the messag

Re: some news about ftp hangs

1999-04-16 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Brian Somers wrote: > > Now I think I'm confused ;-} I haven't seen any changes to ftp > I did the double lookup bit to all the stuff in libexec (including > ftpd), but that shouldn't effect what's going on here. If the > external NS record for Louqi's machine isn't supposed to be on that >

NFS patch #3 avail ( but wait till the weekend if you can ) files)

1999-04-16 Thread Matthew Dillon
NFS patch #3 ( for -current ) is now available. Again, I recommend waiting until the weekend before seriously trying any of these patches and not running them on any machine for which the loss of data would be a problem. http://www.backplane.com/FreeBSD4/ The current patc

Re: make aout-to-elf on -current?

1999-04-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message <19990416164237.n27...@lemis.com> Greg Lehey writes: : I spent a week trying to upgrade from 3.0-CURRENT of about August last : year to 4.0-CURRENT of the beginning of April. I finally gave up : going the direct way and upgraded first to 3.1-STABLE and from there : to 4.0-CURRENT. I ha

Re: some news about ftp hangs

1999-04-16 Thread Brian Somers
> Luoqi Chen wrote: > > > > Sorry, this is a legitimate ICMP packet: port unreacheable. It looks like > > the ftp server (ftp.freebsd.org) was making an UDP query to DNS port on > > the client (which happens to have a named server running, but that's just > > for the internal network, external ip

Re: some news about ftp hangs

1999-04-16 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Luoqi Chen wrote: > > Sorry, this is a legitimate ICMP packet: port unreacheable. It looks like > the ftp server (ftp.freebsd.org) was making an UDP query to DNS port on > the client (which happens to have a named server running, but that's just > for the internal network, external ip address is s

Re: some news about ftp hangs

1999-04-16 Thread Luoqi Chen
> > Here's async log output from alias enabled ppp, while ftp was retransmitting > > the PORT command packet: > > > > Async: 7e 3d c0 00 00 9d 21 45 00 00 38 13 42 00 00 ff > > ^^ > > Async: 01 e3 a7 cf ca 49 aa d0 17 db 4e 03 03 a2 f8 00 ^^

Re: some news about ftp hangs

1999-04-16 Thread Brian Somers
> > trying different configurations i have encountered the following > > > > 1. ftp in passive mode (pftp or ftp with -p options) DOES NOT hang; > > 2. ncftp3 from ports DOES NOT hang; > > 3. netscape communicator 4 DOES NOT hang. > > > > so it seems that the problem is in native FreeBSD's ftp or

rexec documentation/compatibility question

1999-04-16 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > DESCRIPTION > This interface is obsoleted by rcmd(3). It is available from the compat- > ibility library, libcompat. >However, I don't see how rcmd() can be used to replace rexec() > since rcmd() is a root/rresvport mechanism, as where rexec() is > a .netrc mechanism. D

Re: Re[2]: ftp hangs on -current

1999-04-16 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Hi Bret, I apologise for the outburst. I suppose the fact that I can't see a problem on my box doesn't mean that no problem exists, and my tone was uncalled for. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Re[2]: ftp hangs on -current

1999-04-16 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:18:08 MST, "Bret Ford" wrote: >Let's continue this thread in capital letters. We might attract >some attention! ;-) Well done, you've attracted attention. I'm sitting here thinking you're a moron. I can ftp in and out of my machine without problems using a curre

Re: some news about ftp hangs

1999-04-16 Thread Bret Ford
My firewall is set with the open rule only---and I'm still getting the behavior described below. Bret Ford > or you've got a firewall that doesn't allow active FTP :-) > > > On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Ilya Naumov wrote: > > > > > trying different configurations i have encountered the following >

Re: some news about ftp hangs

1999-04-16 Thread Bret Ford
> > trying different configurations i have encountered the following > > 1. ftp in passive mode (pftp or ftp with -p options) DOES NOT hang; > 2. ncftp3 from ports DOES NOT hang; > 3. netscape communicator 4 DOES NOT hang. > > so it seems that the problem is in native FreeBSD's ftp or a library

Re: some news about ftp hangs

1999-04-16 Thread Luoqi Chen
> trying different configurations i have encountered the following > > 1. ftp in passive mode (pftp or ftp with -p options) DOES NOT hang; > 2. ncftp3 from ports DOES NOT hang; > 3. netscape communicator 4 DOES NOT hang. > > so it seems that the problem is in native FreeBSD's ftp or a library > (

Re: some news about ftp hangs

1999-04-16 Thread Julian Elischer
or you've got a firewall that doesn't allow active FTP :-) On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Ilya Naumov wrote: > > trying different configurations i have encountered the following > > 1. ftp in passive mode (pftp or ftp with -p options) DOES NOT hang; > 2. ncftp3 from ports DOES NOT hang; > 3. netscape co

Re: swap on Irix (overcommiting, etc.)

1999-04-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Lowell Gilbert writes: >Mikhail Teterin writes: > >> Sorry. I'm just repeating what Ladavac Marino wrote in >> <55586e7391acd211b973c1100276179...@r-lmh-wi-100.corpnet.at>: >> >> LM: Please note that memory overcommit architectures are a >> LM: rather common optimizatio

Re: swap on Irix (overcommiting, etc.)

1999-04-16 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Mikhail Teterin writes: > Sorry. I'm just repeating what Ladavac Marino wrote in > <55586e7391acd211b973c1100276179...@r-lmh-wi-100.corpnet.at>: > > LM: Please note that memory overcommit architectures are a > LM: rather common optimization; FreeBSD is one of them. They > L

some news about ftp hangs

1999-04-16 Thread Ilya Naumov
trying different configurations i have encountered the following 1. ftp in passive mode (pftp or ftp with -p options) DOES NOT hang; 2. ncftp3 from ports DOES NOT hang; 3. netscape communicator 4 DOES NOT hang. so it seems that the problem is in native FreeBSD's ftp or a library (libedit.so.2, l

Re: swap-related problems

1999-04-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Snob Art Gen re writes: >On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Don Lewis wrote: > >> SunOS 4 doesn't do memory overcommit. > >I get the impression from Vahalia's _UNIX Internals_ that this is true >of SunOS 5 as well. I know from experience that solaris 2.4 overcommits. -- Poul-Henning Kamp

Re: swap-related problems

1999-04-16 Thread Snob Art Genre
On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Don Lewis wrote: > SunOS 4 doesn't do memory overcommit. I get the impression from Vahalia's _UNIX Internals_ that this is true of SunOS 5 as well. > This could be shaved down a bit if SunOS didn't require > (swap > total VM) instead of (swap + RAM > total VM). Again, from

Re: Re[2]: ftp hangs on -current

1999-04-16 Thread Ilya Naumov
ÐÔ , 16 ÁÐÒ 1999, Brian Somers ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: > > I CAN'T FTP OUT FROM MY -CURRENT SYSTEM. I CAN FTP IN. SOMETHING > > IS PROBABLY WRONG. I CAN LIST DIRECTORIES, USUALLY. 'GET' COMMANDS > > HANG. I AM RUNNING -CURRENT FROM MORNING APR 13. > Generally, if you don't get a response, it usually indica

Re: Re[2]: ftp hangs on -current

1999-04-16 Thread Brian Somers
[.] >Let's continue this thread in capital letters. We might attract some > attention! ;-) > > I CAN'T FTP OUT FROM MY -CURRENT SYSTEM. I CAN FTP IN. SOMETHING > IS PROBABLY WRONG. I CAN LIST DIRECTORIES, USUALLY. 'GET' COMMANDS > HANG. I AM RUNNING -CURRENT FROM MORNING APR 13. >

Re: newconfig/new-bus

1999-04-16 Thread Doug Rabson
On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, UCHIYAMA Yasushi wrote: > | shouldn't be too hard though, but even then there are seriously non-trivial > | differences in the tty, block/character devices, VM, networking, etc. Even > | if the config interface was compatable it wouldn't ever be a 'drop in' > | option, ev

Re: newconfig/new-bus

1999-04-16 Thread UCHIYAMA Yasushi
| shouldn't be too hard though, but even then there are seriously non-trivial | differences in the tty, block/character devices, VM, networking, etc. Even | if the config interface was compatable it wouldn't ever be a 'drop in' | option, even with 'newconfig'. In strongly system-dependent par

RE: swap on Irix (overcommiting, etc.)

1999-04-16 Thread Ladavac Marino
> -Original Message- > From: Matthew Dillon [SMTP:dil...@apollo.backplane.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 9:38 PM > To: Mikhail Teterin > Cc: curr...@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: swap on Irix (overcommiting, etc.) > > If some of you are wondering why some of us are saying

Re: swap on Irix (overcommiting, etc.)

1999-04-16 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
Matthew Dillon writes: > To be blunt, the 'total VM' used by a system can run into the gigabytes > while the actual real memory + swap allocation is 1/10 of that... or Add another 1000% for stack autoextension... ;--) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscr

Re: make aout-to-elf on -current?

1999-04-16 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 16 April 1999 at 0:54:32 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > Does make aout-to-elf still purport to work from a 2.2.8R system to > a recent (like today's) current? I spent a week trying to upgrade from 3.0-CURRENT of about August last year to 4.0-CURRENT of the beginning of April. I finally g