[Dri-devel] DRI Development IRC channel - #dri-devel on OPN

2002-01-20 Thread Mike A. Harris
The recent ideas discussed here on starting DRI development discussion on IRC, and perhaps rekindle some wider community involvement sounds like a fantastic idea to me. I read some of the URL's posted around on the history of DRI, etc. and think that the idea of weekly meetings discussing DRI d

Re: [Dri-devel] IRC-meeting?

2002-01-20 Thread Nicolas Aspert
Hello all > >>Did you people decide on 5PM Pacific Time on Monday? >> > > Yes. There was some movement to change the time--but that didn't > succeed. > I hope the IRC logs will be made available somewhere for European guys that will not be awake at 2am (CET) for the meeting :-) a+ -- Ni

Re: [Dri-devel] IRC-meeting?

2002-01-20 Thread Jens Owen
Andreas Ehliar wrote: > > Just wondering where the IRC-based meeting is supposed to take place? > > #dri on irc.openprojects.net ? I was wondering the same thing. Your suggestion sounds good. Let's go with that. > Did you people decide on 5PM Pacific Time on Monday? Yes. There was some mo

Re: [Dri-devel] opengl future

2002-01-20 Thread Allen Akin
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 07:45:39AM +0800, Rogelio M. Serrano Jr. wrote: | What will happen to opengl? | As far as I know that is already MS property. No, OpenGL doesn't belong to Microsoft. It'll continue to exist and be used for a long while, provided we keep it up-to-date and the implementati

History of the DRI [Was: Re: [Dri-devel] Rebuttal on "DRM/DRI porting guide?" posts]

2002-01-20 Thread Jens Owen
WARNING: This e-mail is LONG. It's mostly a history of the DRI. If you're interested, print it out and snuggle up by the fire... Matt Sottek from Intel wrote: > I was working with PI pretty early in the game on the DRI. I think > the i810 was one of the first working designs after the referen

RE: [Dri-devel] dri-devel FAQ

2002-01-20 Thread Gareth Hughes
Very nicely done! Hopefully, this will be expanded upon in the future, but it looks great already. -- Gareth > -Original Message- > From: José Fonseca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 10:20 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Dri-devel] dri-devel FAQ > >

Re: [Dri-devel] SGI transfers 3D graphics patents to MS

2002-01-20 Thread José Fonseca
On 2002.01.21 00:41 Philip Brown wrote: > On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 07:17:40AM -0800, Gareth Hughes wrote: > > Philip Brown wrote: > > > > > > but I would say that microsoft DOES want to kill OpenGL, > >... > > Allen's original statement made the point that MS considers OpenGL > > to be dead and bur

Re: [Dri-devel] SGI transfers 3D graphics patents to MS

2002-01-20 Thread Philip Brown
On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 07:17:40AM -0800, Gareth Hughes wrote: > Philip Brown wrote: > > > > but I would say that microsoft DOES want to kill OpenGL, >... > Allen's original statement made the point that MS considers OpenGL > to be dead and buried, period. They've fought that battle, and in > t

[Dri-devel] opengl future

2002-01-20 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
What will happen to opengl? As far as I know that is already MS property. Whats going to happen to hardware support for 3d accel then? Are we all going to end up using d3d? What are the legal issues around d3d? Can we use it in linux? ___ Dri-devel mai

Re: [Dri-devel] Another idea for Porting

2002-01-20 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Son, 2002-01-20 at 11:09, Philip Brown wrote: > It might be nice to have some sort of "generic 3d card" stub, that > would have certain functions common to all 3d cards. > Nothing too fancy. In fact, NOTHING fancy :-) Sounds like the current DRM template code... > Then it would be a lot easi

[Dri-devel] DRI documentation copyright

2002-01-20 Thread José Fonseca
Before I start including copyrighted stuff from the existing DRI documentation I would like get permission from the copyright owners. I'm refering to: "Hardware Locking for the Direct Rendering Infrastructure" "The Direct Rendering Manager: Kernel Support for the Direct Rendering Infrastructur

[Dri-devel] dri-devel FAQ

2002-01-20 Thread José Fonseca
Hi all, I've finished compiling the the information gathered from the dri-devel archives into the FAQ. Since my university network was again down I was not able to put in my workstation's web server so I took the liberty of attach it in this mail. I'll publish in the same site (http://mefriss

Re: [Dri-devel] Creating better documentation

2002-01-20 Thread Jens Owen
David Johnson wrote: > Could the DRI experts offer some feedback on the relevence and usefullness > of the following documents. Are the reasonably up to date? Are they > moderately up to date? Are they out of date and not extremely useful with > respect to the current DRI artitecture? I'll th

RE: [Dri-devel] [PATCH] 4.2.0 DRM fixes to delay loops

2002-01-20 Thread Gareth Hughes
Mike A. Harris wrote: > > The i830 DRM driver contains empty for loops used for short > delays. Modern gcc and other compilers, when used with > optimization switches will optimize these empty for loops out, > leaving no delay. In addition, CPU's such as the Pentium 4, will > needlessly overhea

RE: [Dri-devel] SGI transfers 3D graphics patents to MS

2002-01-20 Thread Gareth Hughes
Philip Brown wrote: > > but I would say that microsoft DOES want to kill OpenGL, > since then they > would control the only useful 3D API. > It's all about creating monopolies. (so he can build hotels?) Allen's original statement made the point that MS considers OpenGL to be dead and buried, pe

[Dri-devel] IRC-meeting?

2002-01-20 Thread Andreas Ehliar
Just wondering where the IRC-based meeting is supposed to take place? #dri on irc.openprojects.net ? Did you people decide on 5PM Pacific Time on Monday? /Andreas ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listin

[Dri-devel] [PATCH] 4.2.0 DRM fixes to delay loops

2002-01-20 Thread Mike A. Harris
The i830 DRM driver contains empty for loops used for short delays. Modern gcc and other compilers, when used with optimization switches will optimize these empty for loops out, leaving no delay. In addition, CPU's such as the Pentium 4, will needlessly overheat when executing empty for loops su

[Dri-devel] Another idea for Porting

2002-01-20 Thread Philip Brown
Hi folks, Well, I'm very happy to have come back to check my dri mailfolder, and find lots of messages about cleaning docs up for porting purposes :-) If folks really want to make porting easier, then I would make the following suggestion: Change the CODE to make porting easier, also. Right

Re: [Dri-devel] SGI transfers 3D graphics patents to MS

2002-01-20 Thread Philip Brown
On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 04:11:39PM -0800, Gareth Hughes wrote: > ... > The DRI is encompassed by OpenGL (as a whole), and if Microsoft > isn't interested in killing OpenGL because they don't consider > it a threat (*), one would reach the conclusion they don't care > about the DRI either. > >