Re: Oracle testing wanted

2008-10-06 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 07:33 -0700, varikin wrote: [...] > I will test this, but I also want to point something out. I see a lot > of talk about developers not having access to Oracle, but that is > wrong. I have neither the disk space or the CPU power on my laptop to run the Oracle tests in a VM

Considering alternate SQL Code generators

2008-10-06 Thread Rock
I was taking a look at Ticket #3163 which, when incorporated into Django, would add a Meta flag to the model which disables SQL code generation. It occurred to me that on a conceptual level, this fix is wrong. What would be more generally useful is a dictionary of alternate SQL code generating plu

Re: Re-thinking model validation

2008-10-06 Thread mrts
On Oct 6, 2:03 am, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 14:11 -0700, mrts wrote: > > Looking at the path Honza has taken [1], it looks that it both > > complicates things and causes overhead -- for every constraint on > > an model object, an extra db call for check

Re: Oracle testing wanted

2008-10-06 Thread Justin Bronn
> Oracle is free for non production use. Sort of -- there are some limitations, e.g., you aren't allowed to develop GPL-licensed using their 'free' license. > but you did want to know why none of the core devs > have Oracle installed :) I have the dev version installed on a Windows VM, and the

Re: Oracle testing wanted

2008-10-06 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:33 AM, varikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oracle is free for non production use. That's not what we mean when we say we don't have access to Oracle... > Actually installing and configuring Oracle is a different matter if > you are not familiar with it, ... this is. >

Re: suggestion for ticket #8618, Many-to-many intermediary with multiple foreign keys

2008-10-06 Thread TiNo
through sounds a little odd to me, as Vacation is the table 'through' which the m2m is made. Shouldn't it be 'in_between' or something the like here? (As Vacation is kind of 'in between' Person and Location) just my 2p. TiNo On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:44 AM, SliceOf314 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >

Oracle testing wanted

2008-10-06 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
Can somebody with access to Oracle please try out the patch in #9307. It's an attempt to allow pickling of the Query class used by the Oracle backend. The most basic test is probably to create any kind of Queryset using "manage.py shell" and the pickle.dumps(my_queryset.query) and see if it works

Re: Oracle testing wanted

2008-10-06 Thread varikin
On Oct 6, 10:54 am, "Jacob Kaplan-Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:33 AM, varikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oracle is free for non production use. > > That's not what we mean when we say we don't have access to Oracle... > > > Actually installing and configuring Ora

Re: Oracle testing wanted

2008-10-06 Thread varikin
On Oct 5, 6:23 am, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can somebody with access to Oracle please try out the patch in #9307. > It's an attempt to allow pickling of the Query class used by the Oracle > backend. > > The most basic test is probably to create any kind of Queryset using > "

Re: suggestion for ticket #8618, Many-to-many intermediary with multiple foreign keys

2008-10-06 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:04 AM, SliceOf314 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> My personal preference for that ticket is that the annotation to say >> which foreign keys to use should belong on the model for the >> intermediate table, not adding to the declaration of the connecting >> models. > > That