Re: cacert.org

2006-04-20 Thread Tristor
On 2/15/2006 5:22 AM Manuzhai spoke thusly > there are other CA's mentioned as Processing which don't have an audit. > I don't personally see a problem with requiring a third-party audit of the CA. In fact, I think that's a good thing. I do, however, think that there should be a review

Re: Add CaCert.org Root CA into FireFox "Authorities"

2006-04-14 Thread oscarsoOpenSC
I found the answer. In order to store the Root CA cert, or Interm CA cert into FireFox cert store under "Authorities" tab, during PKCS#11 initialization, two P11 objects for each cert are needed: a Trusted Object and a Certificate Object. For example, for a Trusted Object, it should have the follo

Add CaCert.org Root CA into FireFox "Authorities"

2006-04-11 Thread Oscar So
Hi, My PKCS#11 module is testing SSL Client Auth operation with CaCert.org. Since the Root CA cert of CaCert.org is not inside CaCert.org, during token login, I would like to have the Root CA cert to be inserted into the FireFox cert store under "Authorities". In other words, s

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-19 Thread Arshad Noor
I did not mean to imply that the jurat would be the sole document upon which the MF would add a CA's root to the browser. There will need to be contract terms to which the CA and MF would agree, and to which the jurat would be added as an attachment. Such a contract would be the recourse for rec

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-19 Thread David E. Ross
Arshad Noor wrote: Has the Mozilla Foundation considered using a self-audit in the form of a Jurat? There are some advantages to doing so for the CA operator, as well as for the MF. To those unfamiliar with the term, a Jurat is any document, where the signer swears to the veracity of its conten

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-18 Thread Arshad Noor
Has the Mozilla Foundation considered using a self-audit in the form of a Jurat? There are some advantages to doing so for the CA operator, as well as for the MF. To those unfamiliar with the term, a Jurat is any document, where the signer swears to the veracity of its contents, signs the docume

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-18 Thread Kyle Hamilton
On 2/18/06, Frank Hecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't envision this as being something that a person would just do as > an independent activity, with the Foundation in essence "certifying" > people to do this sort of work. It's more something that would be done > in the context of a part

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-18 Thread Frank Hecker
Kyle Hamilton wrote: Ah, okie. How would one go about becoming certified as such an independent auditor? I'd like to apply for such Mozilla Foundation certification. I didn't envision this as being something that a person would just do as an independent activity, with the Foundation in essen

Re: cacert.org

2006-02-18 Thread Frank Hecker
Kyle Hamilton wrote: As an aside to Frank: You need to change the newsgroup name on http://www.hecker.org/mozilla/ca-certificate-list :) Done. (Thanks for catching that!) Frank -- Frank Hecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ dev-tech-crypto mailing list dev-t

Re: cacert.org

2006-02-18 Thread Kyle Hamilton
nder what the > > status on inclusion of the cacert.org root cert is. The bug [1] has very > > interesting and lively discussion over a span of, oh, 30 months, and on > > the status page [2] it says that the CAcert inclusion is Pending, while > > most other inclusion

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-17 Thread Kyle Hamilton
Ah, okie. How would one go about becoming certified as such an independent auditor? I'd like to apply for such Mozilla Foundation certification. -Kyle Hamilton On 2/17/06, Frank Hecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kyle Hamilton wrote: > > I would sincerely hope that the direct and indirect cost

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-17 Thread Frank Hecker
Kyle Hamilton wrote: I would sincerely hope that the direct and indirect costs of performing the audit (including travel expenses and labor) would be borne by the CA. My fault, I didn't quote the full policy: By "independent party" we mean a person or other entity who is not affiliated wi

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-17 Thread Kyle Hamilton
I have a small clarification question here... > * an "independent party" can be someone "who is not affiliated with the > CA as an employee or director" and "is not financially compensated by > the CA". I would sincerely hope that the direct and indirect costs of performing the audit (including t

Re: list replies? (was Re: Fwd: cacert.org)

2006-02-17 Thread Manuzhai
3. Make these other Reply-To header choices: a) leave it alone (as the poster created it) [now configured this way.] b) strip it out completely c) replace its contents with a constant string, e.g. with name of list. There is a good summary of the debate "What to do with Reply-To" here:

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-17 Thread David E. Ross
Frank Hecker wrote: Nelson B wrote: I believe it was Mr. David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ He used to be a regular in this newsgroup/alias, but the last time I saw a message from him was Feb 10 2004. :-( As I understand it, David got conscripted to serve on a grand jury. I believe he is st

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-17 Thread Frank Hecker
Frank Hecker wrote: If a CA were to propose someone who was not an actual professional auditor authorized to do WebTrust or other formal audits, then that person (or persons) would have to meet the requirements above, the CA and/or would have to publish information regarding the person's quali

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-17 Thread Frank Hecker
Gervase Markham wrote: And I don't know what Frank would say, but I'm not sure that a review from a single unqualified individual could meet the "WebTrust or equivalent" standard in the CA cert policy. The Mozilla CA certificate policy doesn't say anything about "WebTrust or equivalent". What

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-17 Thread Frank Hecker
Nelson B wrote: I believe it was Mr. David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ He used to be a regular in this newsgroup/alias, but the last time I saw a message from him was Feb 10 2004. :-( As I understand it, David got conscripted to serve on a grand jury. I believe he is still serving on it, mo

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-17 Thread Nelson B
Gervase Markham wrote: > Kyle Hamilton wrote: > >>As I recall, cacert.org was planning to be audited by one of the >>Mozilla guys directly. I don't know who, and I don't know when, but I >>kinda recall some discussion of this. > > I remember hearing some

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-17 Thread Kyle Hamilton
ot the faintest clue what the answers might be. -Kyle H On 2/17/06, Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kyle Hamilton wrote: > > As I recall, cacert.org was planning to be audited by one of the > > Mozilla guys directly. I don't know who, and I don't know whe

Re: Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-17 Thread Gervase Markham
Kyle Hamilton wrote: > As I recall, cacert.org was planning to be audited by one of the > Mozilla guys directly. I don't know who, and I don't know when, but I > kinda recall some discussion of this. I remember hearing someone say this, but when I asked, the name given was

Re: list replies? (was Re: Fwd: cacert.org)

2006-02-16 Thread Nelson B
Nelson B Bolyard wrote: > Kyle Hamilton wrote: > >>(I /hate/ that I have to click 'reply all' to reply to the original >>poster /and/ the list.) > > What would you propose instead? > Having a Reply-To: header in each message that replies to the alias? > or ? The particular MailMan list managemen

list replies? (was Re: Fwd: cacert.org)

2006-02-15 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Kyle Hamilton wrote: > (I /hate/ that I have to click 'reply all' to reply to the original > poster /and/ the list.) What would you propose instead? Having a Reply-To: header in each message that replies to the alias? or ? /Nelson (List owner/moderator) ___

Fwd: cacert.org

2006-02-15 Thread Kyle Hamilton
(I /hate/ that I have to click 'reply all' to reply to the original poster /and/ the list.) -- Forwarded message -- From: Kyle Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Feb 15, 2006 6:24 PM Subject: Re: cacert.org To: Frank Hecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> As I

Re: cacert.org

2006-02-15 Thread Frank Hecker
Manuzhai wrote: Even with the danger of opening a can of worms here, I wonder what the status on inclusion of the cacert.org root cert is. The bug [1] has very interesting and lively discussion over a span of, oh, 30 months, and on the status page [2] it says that the CAcert inclusion is

Re: cacert.org

2006-02-15 Thread Manuzhai
Manuzhai wrote: Hi there, Even with the danger of opening a can of worms here, I wonder what the status on inclusion of the cacert.org root cert is. The bug [1] has very interesting and lively discussion over a span of, oh, 30 months, and on the status page [2] it says that the CAcert

cacert.org

2006-02-15 Thread Manuzhai
Hi there, Even with the danger of opening a can of worms here, I wonder what the status on inclusion of the cacert.org root cert is. The bug [1] has very interesting and lively discussion over a span of, oh, 30 months, and on the status page [2] it says that the CAcert inclusion is Pending