On 2/18/06, Frank Hecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I didn't envision this as being something that a person would just do as
> an independent activity, with the Foundation in essence "certifying"
> people to do this sort of work. It's more something that would be done
> in the context of a particular CA and its application for inclusion, and
> then only if a) the CA weren't doing a formal WebTrust audit (or similar
> formal audit done by an authorized auditor), and b) the CA were willing
> to grant the person in question the necessary access to its internal
> operations. Thus far the only CA that's fit criterion (a) has been
> CAcert, and they're still figuring out who they want to help them.

I figure that it'd be easier (for a CA) to deal with someone whose
knowledge of cryptography and auditing procedures has already been
tested and whose background has already been checked, when selecting
someone to grant the necessary access to internal operations.  This
would provide a "jumpstart" on the process, as it would offer the
possibility to eliminate the necessary wrangling over the "who to do
it" decision.

I'm also asking this because I'd like to know what kinds of testing
procedures (for the proposed auditor) are going to need to be
required.  For example, I know more than I really care to think about
about identity certification and CA operation, though I'm not as
familiar with auditing.  (From what I have seen, there isn't enough
data obtained/retained by CAcert to be able to audit, but they seem to
be undergoing some kind of internal deficiency
determination/resolution, and I'd like to volunteer to assist them
with at the very least the deficiency determination process.)

Which brings up another point: If (as a volunteer) I assist CAcert in
determining what records need to be kept for auditing purposes as well
as help them write up their CPS (using only publicly available
information, and no access other than email to the people who run the
CA), would I become ineligible under the Mozilla Foundation's rules to
actually perform the audit?  Their draft CPS states that an audit may
be performed by anyone other than an officer or Director of the
incorporated entity, but I'd like some kind of clarification on what
'independent' really means to MoFo.

Also, what is the deliverable of the audit?  A report, or a report and
a recommendation for or against inclusion, or what?  (I would suggest
merely a report, and let MoFo deal with the results.  That way,
there's a separation of privilege -- the auditor observes, the
Foundation acts.)

-Kyle H
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