Re: Comodo request for EV-enabling 3 existing roots

2008-03-16 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.): > 4.) Frank, this one is for you: > > Since most (if not all) CA root certificates of Comodo were inherited > from the Netscape era and never were properly evaluated by an inclusion > process and in light of the questions above, isn't a thorough review of > this CA in

Re: Comodo request for EV-enabling 3 existing roots

2008-03-16 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
This is a revised version of my initial questions concerning the Comodo inclusion and upgrade requests. I've updated the sections which received a response from Frank and are solved from my point of view and added some more content where deemed necessary. 1.) The audit report for non-EV operati

Re: Comodo request for EV-enabling 3 existing roots

2008-03-16 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Frank Hecker: > Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: > >> 3.) Here a few questions in relation to the LiteSSL CPS: >> > > >>* 4.1 states that the enrollment process MAY include check for >> domain ownership. This means that the checks can be omitted? >> > > I think this is ano

Re: Comodo request for EV-enabling 3 existing roots

2008-03-16 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Frank Hecker: > Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: > >> This particular part DOES bother you, because wild card certificates >> aren't controllable in the same way as regular ones. A seemingly >> innocent domain name can become a tool for phishing. For example >> *.domain.com matches paypal.dom

Re: Comodo request for EV-enabling 3 existing roots

2008-03-16 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Frank Hecker: > Nelson Bolyard wrote: > >> Wow! I'd say that a CA that says "You cannot rely on our certs for >> eCommerce" should not be trusted for SSL by default in Mozilla products! >> >> Of course, that's a policy issue. Frank, what do you think? >> > > It is a policy issue, and we'v

Re: Comodo request for EV-enabling 3 existing roots

2008-03-16 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: > Rob Stradling: >> For the record, I can assure you that Comodo never issue DV and EV >> certs from the same Intermediate CA. >> > In that case we need to update our papers then. For example I've > received the following comment from Frank previously concerni

Re: Comodo request for EV-enabling 3 existing roots

2008-03-16 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: > 3.) Here a few questions in relation to the LiteSSL CPS: >* 4.1 states that the enrollment process MAY include check for > domain ownership. This means that the checks can be omitted? I think this is another case of sloppy CPS language. Section 4.2.7 of

Re: Comodo request for EV-enabling 3 existing roots

2008-03-16 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: > Ohoommm...it doesn't say not to rely for e-commerce, but not to rely AT > ALL :-) It says, BECAUSE the certificates aren't meant to be for > e-commerce parties can not rely on it - any party - for any purpose - > do not qualify as a relying party. After looki

Re: Comodo request for EV-enabling 3 existing roots

2008-03-16 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: > This particular part DOES bother you, because wild card certificates > aren't controllable in the same way as regular ones. A seemingly > innocent domain name can become a tool for phishing. For example > *.domain.com matches paypal.domain.com and paypal-object

Re: Comodo request for EV-enabling 3 existing roots

2008-03-16 Thread Frank Hecker
Nelson Bolyard wrote: > Wow! I'd say that a CA that says "You cannot rely on our certs for > eCommerce" should not be trusted for SSL by default in Mozilla products! > > Of course, that's a policy issue. Frank, what do you think? It is a policy issue, and we've had this discussion before. My po

Re: Comodo request for EV-enabling 3 existing roots

2008-03-16 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: > 1.) Is it possible to get a list of the currently active issuing > intermediate CA certificates of each CA root *currently* for > consideration? It would be interesting to know which of these issue EV, > both or non-EV. I *think* what you're looking for is in

Re: Comodo request for EV-enabling 3 existing roots

2008-03-16 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Frank Hecker: > Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: > >> 3.) Here a few questions in relation to the LiteSSL CPS: >> > > In reference to this, it's not clear to me whether Comodo still issues > LiteSSL certificates or not. Note that the LiteSSL CPS Addendum is an > addendum to version 2.4 of