Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2019-12-03 Thread L. David Baron
The W3C is proposing a revised charter for: Second Screen Working Group https://w3c.github.io/secondscreen-charter/ https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Nov/.html The differences from the previous charter are: https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2018-01-07 Thread Shih-Chiang Chien
Thanks David, the revised comment lgtm. Making SecondScreen WG focusing on interoperability first would be a better direction for now. Best Regards, Shih-Chiang Chien Mozilla Taiwan On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: > Thanks for doing this David. The objection here is very

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2018-01-06 Thread Martin Thomson
Thanks for doing this David. The objection here is very neatly put. I hope that we can do something soon to help address the shortcoming regarding the protocol. On 6 Jan. 2018 2:26 pm, "Tantek Çelik" wrote: > This is an improvement and I think has a better chance of effecting > change with the

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2018-01-05 Thread Tantek Çelik
This is an improvement and I think has a better chance of effecting change with the specific proposals. We're still making this an FO right? (I think we should) perhaps: s/We would ask that:/We ask (formal objection) that: Your "open to other paths" closing statement provides an out to resolvin

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2018-01-05 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Looks good. Thanks, David! On 1/5/18 1:58 PM, L. David Baron wrote: > So after a little off-list discussion with SC, I have a somewhat > revised proposal for comments that perhaps proposes what might be a > more acceptable remedy (although thanks to timezones I don't > actually know what SC thinks

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2018-01-05 Thread L. David Baron
So after a little off-list discussion with SC, I have a somewhat revised proposal for comments that perhaps proposes what might be a more acceptable remedy (although thanks to timezones I don't actually know what SC thinks of this proposal). -David = The current situation with the API develo

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2018-01-05 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Agreed. Thanks for the careful wording, David! (BTW s/apple/Apple/) On 1/5/18 9:08 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > LGTM! > > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:56 PM, L. David Baron > wrote: > > So I think Martin, Peter, and I share similar concerns here, and I'm > inclined t

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2018-01-05 Thread Eric Rescorla
LGTM! On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:56 PM, L. David Baron wrote: > So I think Martin, Peter, and I share similar concerns here, and I'm > inclined to turn those concerns into an objection to this charter. > > So how does this sound for proposed comments on the charter > (submitted as a formal objecti

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2018-01-04 Thread L. David Baron
So I think Martin, Peter, and I share similar concerns here, and I'm inclined to turn those concerns into an objection to this charter. So how does this sound for proposed comments on the charter (submitted as a formal objection)? Note that I've tried to turn the comments into a specific suggesti

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2018-01-04 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
+1 to Martin's feedback. On 1/3/18 10:19 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: > Without the protocol pieces, this remains vendor-specific. We should > comment on this and make it clear that we think that definition of a > generic protocol for interacting with the second display has not been > given sufficie

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2018-01-03 Thread Martin Thomson
Without the protocol pieces, this remains vendor-specific. We should comment on this and make it clear that we think that definition of a generic protocol for interacting with the second display has not been given sufficient priority. Allowing this to proceed without a generic protocol would be b

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2018-01-03 Thread Shih-Chiang Chien
The SecondScreen WG intended to move the protocol development to CG, and will possibly move to IETF after the incubation phase. The revised charter is trying to associate the work of CG to the timeline of Presentation API development. At the meantime, WG will tackle the testability issue found whi

Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2018-01-03 Thread L. David Baron
The W3C is proposing a revised charter for: Second Screen Working Group https://w3c.github.io/secondscreen-charter/ https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2017Dec/.html Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through Friday, January 52. (Sorry for faili

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2016-10-25 Thread L. David Baron
I've submitted a response in support of the charter, without comments. -David On Monday 2016-10-24 10:47 +0800, Shih-Chiang Chien wrote: > Support revised charter. > > The revised charter creates some flexibility for us to promote Flyweb as a > new feature in Presentation API Level 2, which has

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2016-10-23 Thread Shih-Chiang Chien
Support revised charter. The revised charter creates some flexibility for us to promote Flyweb as a new feature in Presentation API Level 2, which has been discussed in the F2F meeting of the WG this year. It also create a good structure to move non-WebAPI discussion to CG and keep WG focusing on

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2016-10-21 Thread Tantek Çelik
I have reviewed the charter and the current set of deliverables. The work appears to be proceeding reasonably (pragmatically, with many members/implementers including Apple and Google) and reasonably minimally scoped. There is also the companion Second Screen Community Group which appears to be use

Proposed W3C Charter: Second Screen Working Group

2016-10-17 Thread L. David Baron
The W3C is proposing a revised charter for: Second Screen Working Group https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2016Sep/0011.html https://www.w3.org/2014/secondscreen/charter-2016.html Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through next Tuesday, October 25.