Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread J. Ryan Stinnett
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: > Are we currently planning to let this default ride into aurora in 2 weeks' > time? >From Chris's first message: "e10s will not ride the trains to Aurora 36." - Ryan ___ dev-platform mailing list

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
Are we currently planning to let this default ride into aurora in 2 weeks' time? ~ Gijs On 07/11/2014 21:44, Gavin Sharp wrote: Yes, it is currently disabled by safe mode. There is currently a checkbox in prefs to toggle it, in Nightly builds. When it rides the trains, we'll have to re-evalua

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Chris Peterson
On 11/7/14 1:28 PM, Nicholas Nethercote wrote: On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Dave Townsend wrote: >We started that with prompting users to opt-in to e10s >around a month ago and since then around 25% of Nightly users have been >running with e10s enabled. As we hoped this saw a surge in the nu

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Gavin Sharp
Yes, it is currently disabled by safe mode. There is currently a checkbox in prefs to toggle it, in Nightly builds. When it rides the trains, we'll have to re-evaluate that tradeoff at various steps based on the quality level and testing goals. In the long term it does not make sense to maintain t

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Andrew McCreight
- Original Message - > Thinking ahead: e10s is a big enough change that I suspect we'll see > high levels of instability when it gets uplifted to Aurora and > (especially) Beta. Not sure how to avoid that... but will there be an > easy way to disable it? I think there should be a pref in

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Nicholas Nethercote
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Dave Townsend wrote: > We started that with prompting users to opt-in to e10s > around a month ago and since then around 25% of Nightly users have been > running with e10s enabled. As we hoped this saw a surge in the number of > bugs filed and helped us understand t

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Chris Peterson
On 11/7/14 9:24 AM, Armen Zambrano wrote: If we have enabled e10s for nightly, are the normal non-e10s-test jobs going to run with the pref off? If not, we would be testing e10s twice on fx36, stop testing non-e10s fx36 and get non-e10s-regressions sneak into aurora when we uplift (since I believ

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Gavin Sharp
> If we have enabled e10s for nightly, are the normal non-e10s-test jobs going > to run with the pref off? Yes. Gavin On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Armen Zambrano wrote: > If we have enabled e10s for nightly, are the normal non-e10s-test jobs going > to run with the pref off? > If not, we wou

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Armen Zambrano
If we have enabled e10s for nightly, are the normal non-e10s-test jobs going to run with the pref off? If not, we would be testing e10s twice on fx36, stop testing non-e10s fx36 and get non-e10s-regressions sneak into aurora when we uplift (since I believe we're locking to trunk). regards, Arm

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Marco Bonardo
On 07/11/2014 18:05, ch...@pointlessone.org wrote: My nightly crashes on start. Well, that's fine and is expected from unstable software. But now that I've submitted a half a dozen crash reports which pref do I flip to continue using my browser? Hold down shift when launching Firefox to ente

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Chris Peterson
On 11/7/14 7:47 AM, Bill McCloskey wrote: Unfortunately, I checked it a patch yesterday (bug 1092156) that is causing lots of crashes if you have certain add-ons installed (such as the Gecko profiler). The crash happens regardless of whether e10s is enabled. Starting up in safe mode (via -safe

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread cheba
My nightly crashes on start. Well, that's fine and is expected from unstable software. But now that I've submitted a half a dozen crash reports which pref do I flip to continue using my browser? ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.o

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Gavin Sharp
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1072980 > > was filed 6 weeks ago, and diagnosed as relating to force rtl (but Firefox's > fault, because we're passing CPOWs to functions that should never have them) > within a few days, after which nothing happened. ForceRTL is not a commonly insta

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Mike de Boer
I had to file https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1095496 :( Mike. > On 07 Nov 2014, at 17:33, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: > > On 07/11/2014 16:26, Dave Townsend wrote: > >> wrote: >> >>> Where can we read about how this decision was made? On my profiles with >>> Force RTL, e10s perma-c

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 07/11/2014 16:26, Dave Townsend wrote: wrote: Where can we read about how this decision was made? On my profiles with Force RTL, e10s perma-crashes ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ show_bug.cgi?id=1072980 ), and in most other cases, I only ever see spinners for remote content (ie can't actua

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Robert Kaiser
Marco Bonardo schrieb: I'm forcing myself to use it for everyday work, but I completely dropped forceRTL and Flash (I must admit I'm not missing it) to make it usable. The Flash/Plugins stuff *should* have been fixed, but probably needs testing. KaiRo ___

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Dave Townsend
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: > Where can we read about how this decision was made? On my profiles with > Force RTL, e10s perma-crashes ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ > show_bug.cgi?id=1072980 ), and in most other cases, I only ever see > spinners for remote content (ie

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Bill McCloskey
Unfortunately, I checked it a patch yesterday (bug 1092156) that is causing lots of crashes if you have certain add-ons installed (such as the Gecko profiler). The crash happens regardless of whether e10s is enabled. Starting up in safe mode (via -safe-mode) fixes the problem. The bad patch has

Re: Introducing Brotli - an alternative to LZMA

2014-11-07 Thread matt . sephton
Try this http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webfonts-wg/2013Oct/att-0008/Brotli_update_-_20131011.pdf ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: > Right, it's that last part that is very much not the case for me. > > I looked for a bug for a while and decided to just file one: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1095407 My experience upgrading to today's nightly was also p

Re: About the bitfield requirement for portibility

2014-11-07 Thread Philip Chee
On 21/10/2014 11:21, Xidorn Quan wrote: > Hi, > > I read the C++ portibility guide [1], in which it is said that all > bitfields should have the same type, or some compiler may mishandle the > code. Is that still true for the compiler set we currently use? The > compiler the doc mentioned is MSVC+

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 07/11/2014 10:12, Marco Bonardo wrote: On 07/11/2014 10:40, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: Where can we read about how this decision was made? On my profiles with Force RTL, e10s perma-crashes ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1072980 ), and in most other cases, I only ever see spinners

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Marco Bonardo
On 07/11/2014 10:40, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: Where can we read about how this decision was made? On my profiles with Force RTL, e10s perma-crashes ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1072980 ), and in most other cases, I only ever see spinners for remote content (ie can't actually brows

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
Where can we read about how this decision was made? On my profiles with Force RTL, e10s perma-crashes ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1072980 ), and in most other cases, I only ever see spinners for remote content (ie can't actually browse the web - doesn't matter too much for me