I had to file https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1095496

:(

Mike.


> On 07 Nov 2014, at 17:33, Gijs Kruitbosch <gijskruitbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 07/11/2014 16:26, Dave Townsend wrote:
> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Where can we read about how this decision was made? On my profiles with
>>> Force RTL, e10s perma-crashes ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
>>> show_bug.cgi?id=1072980 ), and in most other cases, I only ever see
>>> spinners for remote content (ie can't actually browse the web - doesn't
>>> matter too much for me because I normally use beta).
>>> 
>>> I recognize that my experience is not universal, but I hope it makes sense
>>> that I'm... surprised... that we're turning this on for everyone.
>>> 
>> 
>> As you might expect the decision was made based on us believing that we had
>> had enough testing to have a good idea that the remaining bugs weren't bad
>> enough to severely affect usage but wanted the additional testing that
>> turning on in Nightly would give us.
>> 
>> While most of the e10s team have been running with e10s enabled for a while
>> at a certain point (as for any feature) we have to increase the number of
>> testers to learn about bugs that we don't see in our configurations and
>> usage patterns. We started that with prompting users to opt-in to e10s
>> around a month ago and since then around 25% of Nightly users have been
>> running with e10s enabled. As we hoped this saw a surge in the number of
>> bugs filed and helped us understand the remaining issues more. Many many
>> bugs have been fixed since then and as of Tuesday nothing remaining looked
>> bad enough to block us turning this on more globally.
>> 
>> The crash sounds like a late breaking change that should be fixed
>> imminently, that's just the peril of nightly.
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1072980
> 
> was filed 6 weeks ago, and diagnosed as relating to force rtl (but Firefox's 
> fault, because we're passing CPOWs to functions that should never have them) 
> within a few days, after which nothing happened.
> 
> > Not being able to browse the
>> web at all is an entirely new one that we hadn't seen in our testing to
>> date. While it is unfortunate that this has broken the browser for you (and
>> undoubtedly others) this is exactly the outcome we want for enabling a
>> feature on nightly. More testing to reveal the bugs that the developers
>> don't see themselves. Hopefully we'll get the most serious ones fixed
>> quickly. If we can't then we get to talk about whether turning e10s off
>> again is the right solution.
>> 
>> I'm interested to know if you had opted in to e10s at all in the past and
>> seen this issue with the permanent spinner? That might help us narrow down
>> when it started to be a problem.
> 
> I duped the bug I filed to an earlier bug, courtesy of mak for finding those:
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1026521
> 
> That was filed 4.5 months ago.
> 
> Both of these were marked blocking-e10s+ (although the top one got reset to ? 
> just now - it's not clear to me why that happened).
> 
> ~ Gijs
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