xulrunner 15 doesn't start in Mac OSX Mountain Lion

2012-08-31 Thread allencblee
My app used to work ok with xulrunner 14. When I updated it with xulrunner 15, it doesn't start up. The console shows the following messages: com.app.launchd.peruser.501: ([0x0-0xabfabf].testapp[7866]): Exited with code: 255 Any idea what this is about? Anything config files (like info.plis

Re: The current state of Talos benchmarks

2012-08-31 Thread Chris AtLee
On 31/08/12 03:59 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: On 12-08-31 11:45 AM, Chris AtLee wrote: On 31/08/12 11:32 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote:> There are extremely non-stable Talos tests, and relatively stable ones. > Let's focus on the relatively stable ones. There are extremely hard > to diagnose perform

Re: The current state of Talos benchmarks

2012-08-31 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 12-08-31 11:45 AM, Chris AtLee wrote: On 31/08/12 11:32 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote:> There are extremely non-stable Talos tests, and relatively stable ones. > Let's focus on the relatively stable ones. There are extremely hard > to diagnose performance regressions, and extremely easy ones (i

No Gfx meeting next week (September 3)

2012-08-31 Thread Benoit Jacob
Hi, Next Monday is a holiday here in Toronto. And we've had gfx meetings each of the previous mondays. So, no meeting next week. Benoit ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform

Re: The current state of Talos benchmarks

2012-08-31 Thread jmaher
There are a few issues here which should be easy to address and a few other issues which are not so easy to address. First off everybody who is interested in talos should read the wiki page: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Buildbot/Talos This explains where the code lives, what tests we run and on whic

Re: The current state of Talos benchmarks

2012-08-31 Thread Chris AtLee
On 31/08/12 11:32 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote:> There are extremely non-stable Talos tests, and relatively stable ones. > Let's focus on the relatively stable ones. There are extremely hard > to diagnose performance regressions, and extremely easy ones (i.e., > let's not wait on this lock, do this

Re: I/O effect on builds [was Moving Away from Makefile's]

2012-08-31 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 8/31/12 8:28 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: In practice, I've noticed minimal difference using SSDs on my desktop, which has 16G of RAM. I have lots of other stuff open, but all that only uses a couple of gigs of RAM, so there should certainly be 9G for page cache. (free -m reports about 7G used fo

Re: The current state of Talos benchmarks

2012-08-31 Thread Justin Lebar
> There are extremely non-stable Talos tests, and relatively stable ones. > Let's focus on the relatively stable ones. It's not exclusively a question of noise in the tests. Even regressions in stable tests are sometimes hard to track down. I spent two months trying to figure out why I could not

Re: The current state of Talos benchmarks (meeting notes)

2012-08-31 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 12-08-31 5:37 AM, Justin Lebar wrote: Sorry to continue beating this horse, but I don't think it's quite dead yet: One of the best things we could do to make finding these regressions easier is to never coalesce Talos on mozilla-inbound. It's crazy to waste developer time bisecting Talos loc

Re: The current state of Talos benchmarks

2012-08-31 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 12-08-31 6:01 AM, Justin Lebar wrote: I'm not saying it should be OK to regress our performance tests, as a rule. But I think we need to acknowledge that hunting regressions can be time-consuming, and that a policy requiring that all regressions be understood may hamstring our ability to get

Re: I/O effect on builds [was Moving Away from Makefile's]

2012-08-31 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 12-08-31 8:28 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: If you use a desktop and work on compiled code even part-time, at any reasonable pay rate, I can't see any reason why you wouldn't get 16G of RAM. Although it seems most people don't -- maybe people mostly use laptops? 2x8G of desktop RAM is about $75 ri

Re: I/O effect on builds [was Moving Away from Makefile's]

2012-08-31 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Gregory Szorc wrote: > If you have 9+GB of memory dedicated to building mozilla-central and you are > doing warm builds all the time, great, you probably don't need an SSD. But, > those conditions are specialized. You have to get things into the page > cache. That'

Re: The current state of Talos benchmarks

2012-08-31 Thread Justin Lebar
> IMHO we *can* regress on synthetic ones as long as we know what is going on. It's the requirement that we know what is going on that I think is unreasonable. Indeed, we /have/ a no not-understood regresisons policy, IIRC. The extent to which it's being ignored is at least partially indicative

Re: The current state of Talos benchmarks (meeting notes)

2012-08-31 Thread Justin Lebar
Sorry to continue beating this horse, but I don't think it's quite dead yet: One of the best things we could do to make finding these regressions easier is to never coalesce Talos on mozilla-inbound. It's crazy to waste developer time bisecting Talos locally when we don't run it on every push. A

Re: The current state of Talos benchmarks (meeting notes)

2012-08-31 Thread jmaher
On Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:05:40 PM UTC-4, Ben Hearsum wrote: > On 08/30/12 07:22 PM, L. David Baron wrote: > > > On Thursday 2012-08-30 14:42 -0700, Taras Glek wrote: > > >> * Joel will revisit maintaining Talos within mozilla-central to > > >> reduce developer barriers to understanding wha