Re: URLStreamHandler and ContentHandler

2006-05-26 Thread Shankar Unni
Wade Chandler wrote: You will still be able to use your log4j while Tomcat uses a different internal logging package. No, that's not what I meant. I meant that now, to configure our Tomcat + our webapps, I need to do two distinct configuration mechanisms: one to configure Catalina logs, an

Re: URLStreamHandler and ContentHandler

2006-05-24 Thread Wade Chandler
--- Shankar Unni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yoav Shapira wrote: > > > More on topic, I don't mind switching Tomcat to > java.util.logging > > Umm, please don't do that. For those of us who > *have* mastered the art > of using log4j with Tomcat (:-)), this would be a > giant step back > (havi

Re: URLStreamHandler and ContentHandler

2006-05-24 Thread Shankar Unni
Yoav Shapira wrote: More on topic, I don't mind switching Tomcat to java.util.logging Umm, please don't do that. For those of us who *have* mastered the art of using log4j with Tomcat (:-)), this would be a giant step back (having one logging mechanism for Tomcat and one for the webapps - an

Re: URLStreamHandler and ContentHandler

2006-05-24 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hola, Ok, this particular one is not 100% FUD, it's merely hugely inflating issues which may occur when log4j is used and is deployed in certain ways, and which can also be caused by bugs in Tomcat's logging usage (getting a logger without the proper classloader being bound, etc). In the end, ha

Re: URLStreamHandler and ContentHandler

2006-05-24 Thread Remy Maucherat
Yoav Shapira wrote: Hola, For starters, I don't think the article is total FUD. It's may be outdated, and like I said progress has been made by multiple parties involved (Tomcat with JULI, commons-logging with its implementation, log4j 1.3 in some relevant areas, SLF4j and other external project

Re: URLStreamHandler and ContentHandler

2006-05-24 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hola, For starters, I don't think the article is total FUD. It's may be outdated, and like I said progress has been made by multiple parties involved (Tomcat with JULI, commons-logging with its implementation, log4j 1.3 in some relevant areas, SLF4j and other external projects, etc). But that's

Re: URLStreamHandler and ContentHandler

2006-05-24 Thread Peter Rossbach
Am 24.05.2006 um 16:18 schrieb Remy Maucherat: Yoav Shapira wrote: Hola, > Mmm, I'd hate having endorsed classes depend on commons-logging ;( Could you expand this thought? It's a simple thought, like I said, shooting from the hip. Commons-Logging has an unfortunate history (http://www.qos.

Re: URLStreamHandler and ContentHandler

2006-05-24 Thread Remy Maucherat
Yoav Shapira wrote: Hola, > Mmm, I'd hate having endorsed classes depend on commons-logging ;( Could you expand this thought? It's a simple thought, like I said, shooting from the hip. Commons-Logging has an unfortunate history (http://www.qos.ch/logging/thinkAgain.jsp), and the deeper / hi

Re: URLStreamHandler and ContentHandler

2006-05-24 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hola, > Mmm, I'd hate having endorsed classes depend on commons-logging ;( Could you expand this thought? It's a simple thought, like I said, shooting from the hip. Commons-Logging has an unfortunate history (http://www.qos.ch/logging/thinkAgain.jsp), and the deeper / higher it is on the cla

Re: URLStreamHandler and ContentHandler

2006-05-24 Thread Javier Iglesias
Hi Yoav, Mmm, I'd hate having endorsed classes depend on commons-logging ;( Could you expand this thought? what happens if you don't depend on commons-logging? It's not going to be easy to instruct the JCS and JORAM communities to stop using commons-logging just because I wish so : ) I d

Re: URLStreamHandler and ContentHandler

2006-05-24 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, Mmm, I'd hate having endorsed classes depend on commons-logging ;( I haven't tried it myself, nor attempted to reproduce your scenario, so this is just shooting from the hip: what happens if you don't depend on commons-logging? Yoav On 5/24/06, Javier Iglesias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: H

URLStreamHandler and ContentHandler

2006-05-24 Thread Javier Iglesias
Hi there! I'm working on a framework that uses its own URL scheme ("protocol": oan://host/file...) by extension of java.net.URLStreamHandler. It also uses its own content handlers by extension of java.net.ContentHandler. Using Sun's default resolution mechanisms, their respective packages are ap