Your sense of righteousness would be better directed to code. File a
patch, be useful; if this community wants maven they'll follow you.
Bill
Hannes Schmidt wrote:
In a nutshell, I disagree with the decision to resolve
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-697
as Won't Fix. Here'
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:42, Hannes Schmidt wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote:
>>
>>
>> Cassandra is a community of volunteers. If someone is willing to take
>> that half-hour and make Cassandra a mvn-friendly place and maintain it
>> whilst moving forward, I say let
Properly constructed Maven artifacts have to declare their license in their
POM, and there are maven plugins for checking license conformity.
R
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Eric Evans wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 10:11 -0700, Hannes Schmidt wrote:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/brows
On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 10:11 -0700, Hannes Schmidt wrote:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-850
> >
> > The highlights:
> >
> > You either (a) have to find a way to create binary artifacts that
> > contain all of the necessary libs while satisfying their license
> > requirements, o
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Hannes Schmidt
> wrote:
> > Well, Eric, let's start with you: Would you be in support of moving
> > Cassandra to a Maven build and abandoning Ant/Ivy or at least have the
> Ant
> > build deploy the necessar
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote:
> Hannes,
>
> There is no way to sugar coat this, so I'll just say it: I'm a mvn
> hater, so I have to disagree with you. The basis of my hatred is that
> I've used mvn before (as part of my job) and found it extremely
> encumbering as a deve
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Hannes Schmidt wrote:
> Well, Eric, let's start with you: Would you be in support of moving
> Cassandra to a Maven build and abandoning Ant/Ivy or at least have the Ant
> build deploy the necessary artifacts to the Maven repo?
It would be more productive if you we
It is indeed a web framework, and made for sys admins to interact with
Cassandra, not for hosting millions of users concurrently.
And you're right: those are helloworld benchmarks.
I was concerned a few days ago about the sync/async issue, browsing
over examples on Telephus, Twissandra, Lazyboy,
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Eric Evans wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 08:52 -0500, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Gary Dusbabek
> wrote:
> > > Cassandra is a community of volunteers. If someone is willing to take
> > > that half-hour and make Cassandra a mvn-frien
I don't really consider any hello world benchmarks valid, you'd want to
investigate what your implementation would entail in different frameworks
and do mini-benchmarks to validate which is faster. But, if it's just a web
framework, as Brandon said, I doubt performance will matter to any great
degr
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Pablo Cuadrado wrote:
> Yes, I'm planning on Lazyboy.
>
> The Performance part on the Tornado wiki is quite impressive. Do you
> think it's accurate?
>
> http://www.tornadoweb.org/documentation#performance
Using Lazyboy, you'd be mixing blocking sockets with a no
Yes, I'm planning on Lazyboy.
The Performance part on the Tornado wiki is quite impressive. Do you
think it's accurate?
http://www.tornadoweb.org/documentation#performance
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Joseph Bowman wrote:
> A little different approach than Twisted, a lot less there, and ye
A little different approach than Twisted, a lot less there, and yea no
thrift generator, but if you plan on using Lazyboy you'd be fine.
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Brandon Williams wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Pablo Cuadrado >wrote:
>
> > Joseph:
> >
> > Is it somehow similar
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Pablo Cuadrado wrote:
> Joseph:
>
> Is it somehow similar to Twisted? am I wrong?
Yes, minus every protocol other than HTTP, daemonization utils, etc. Oh,
and thrift doesn't have a generator for it last I checked.
-Brandon
Joseph:
Is it somehow similar to Twisted? am I wrong?
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Joseph Bowman wrote:
> Well Tornado is light weight, it is it's own web server as well, so no need
> to run something like apache in front of it, and is a nice light framework.
> It's an eventd style process, s
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM, gabriele renzi wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Pablo Cuadrado
> wrote:
> > - Really small footprint is a plus: "do we really need to include
> > that, and that, and that other thing?"
>
> as I can imagine your app won't have any state per se, so you don'
Well Tornado is light weight, it is it's own web server as well, so no need
to run something like apache in front of it, and is a nice light framework.
It's an eventd style process, so supports lots of connections very well,
which would give you more flexibility is designing clients to work with it
Gabriele:
Yes, the idea is to make it light-weighted. However, I may add: it
would be nice (for us all) to use a framework which the community
feels comfortable with.
I'm trying to find a balance between features and footprint, having a
small footprint is very important, but also, we want somethi
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Pablo Cuadrado wrote:
> - Really small footprint is a plus: "do we really need to include
> that, and that, and that other thing?"
as I can imagine your app won't have any state per se, so you don't
have any DB issues, you probably won't even need sessions, why not
Joseph: Of course, I understand it's out of date but I'm sure it worths a look!
Dan: You're right, it looks like Pylons is more suitable. Some pro's I see:
- Mako seems to be a faster template engine than Django's one.
- Looks to be really WSGI oriented from scratch.
- As for the ORM, it just won
I like Django. Its wide adoption, great docs and included batteries
make it an easy sell.
But what your describing is more like a pylons, aka if you dont want
an orm in Pylons, don't include it.
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Matthew Dennis wrote:
> +1 for pylons, I've been quite happy with it
Lazyboy has had a lot of updates since the implementation that's in place
there. Those Digg guys have been busy. So I wouldn't use jsondra as much
more than an example of how to use tornado for the framework, rather than to
build off of as I imagine the lazyboy usage is different with current
versi
I like Pylons also, for what I've read. Haven't worked with it so far,
but I'll give it try today to see how it performs.
Joseph: That's great! I'm also thinking on Lazyboy, and a restful
interface. I'll take a look at it.
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Joseph Bowman wrote:
> Way back when I
Way back when I wanted to try and use node.js and Cassandra, I started work
on a restful interface using Tornado and Lazyboy. I've since moved on from
that idea and the project is way out of date, but you can see what I had
done at this project on github - http://github.com/joerussbowman/jsondra
O
+1 for pylons, I've been quite happy with it so far - lightweight,
very flexible, loosely coupled components...
On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote:
I like pylons. Easy templating and relatively light weight. In my
experience, it was easier to get something working in pylons t
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Just a quick reminder that the deadli
I like pylons. Easy templating and relatively light weight. In my
experience, it was easier to get something working in pylons than
django, but I am impatient.
Gary.
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 09:55, Pablo Cuadrado wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I made a proposal about building a Cassandra Web UI. One of it's
Hi!
I made a proposal about building a Cassandra Web UI. One of it's main
components, will be Python on the server side.
However, as Gary D. pointed out, it will be interesting to get your
opinions on which framework to use.
I suggested Django for being well-known and largely documented, but
any
On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 08:52 -0500, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote:
> > Cassandra is a community of volunteers. If someone is willing to take
> > that half-hour and make Cassandra a mvn-friendly place and maintain it
> > whilst moving forward, I say let
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 08:40, Ryan Daum wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote:
>>
>>
>> I disagree that every project should do things the mvn way for the
>> sake of making things easier for mvn users.
>
> I'm sorry, do you not see the hypocrisy of saying this while refer
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote:
> Cassandra is a community of volunteers. If someone is willing to take
> that half-hour and make Cassandra a mvn-friendly place and maintain it
> whilst moving forward, I say let it happen. Make it easy for us to
> package a release and push
I agree with Gary's comments even though I am certainly on the
pro-maven side of the issue..
if someone cares enough about it, it will get done
if I was using cassandra via a maven build I would have already
contributed the time to get the maven aspects of this in place, its
not a tremendous amou
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote:
>
>
> I disagree that every project should do things the mvn way for the
> sake of making things easier for mvn users.
I'm sorry, do you not see the hypocrisy of saying this while referring to a
project that retrieves its transitive dependenc
Hannes,
There is no way to sugar coat this, so I'll just say it: I'm a mvn
hater, so I have to disagree with you. The basis of my hatred is that
I've used mvn before (as part of my job) and found it extremely
encumbering as a developer.
I will try to put my prejudices aside as I make a few poin
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