Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
Serge, It's looking like to me that you don't understand why Daniel is unhappy about the situation. I'll try hereby to explain, in the hope to restore sanity in communication. Please don't take anything personally, this message doesn't aim at pointing finger at anyone. I really do think there's on

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-25 Thread Serge Hallyn
Quoting Martin Steigerwald (mar...@lichtvoll.de): > Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2014, 18:23:38 schrieb Serge Hallyn: > > Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): > > > Then, reading #754910, it looked like Serge was about to work with > > > Daniel, but finally, didn't. No sign of this change in #754910,

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-25 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Dimitri, Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2014, 16:12:41 schrieb Dimitri John Ledkov: > On 25 July 2014 15:28, Daniel Baumann > > wrote: > > Serge Hallyn > > > >> Anyway, I'll be posting a new 0.28 release later today, based upon > >> which Daniel will post a new package, with himself listed as > >> maint

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-25 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2014, 18:23:38 schrieb Serge Hallyn: > Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): > > Then, reading #754910, it looked like Serge was about to work with > > Daniel, but finally, didn't. No sign of this change in #754910, which is > > at least surprising. It's also very surprisin

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-25 Thread Serge Hallyn
Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): > Then, reading #754910, it looked like Serge was about to work with > Daniel, but finally, didn't. No sign of this change in #754910, which is > at least surprising. It's also very surprising to see the package just As Daniel said we had an agreement. He

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:39:27AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Have the FTP masters decided in the favor of Serge's maintenance and > want Daniel out? The package in NEW. It was OK for the archive. It was accepted. It's not the ftpteam's job to figure out how to coordinate or question every upl

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-25 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/25/2014 11:12 PM, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > ps. not sure why leader is added to the CC. It's quite obvious: there's bad behavior here, and Daniel wants to warn (rightly) the DPL about it. I would suggest that you quit your very condescending / borderline-insulting tone to start with, this

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-25 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, On 07/25/2014 16:28, Daniel Baumann wrote: > Serge Hallyn >> Anyway, I'll be posting a new 0.28 release later today, based upon >> which Daniel will post a new package, with himself listed as >> maintainer. We'll proceed from there. > > seems these words are not worth anything. > > instead

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-25 Thread Serge Hallyn
Quoting Daniel Baumann (daniel.baum...@progress-technologies.net): > Serge Hallyn > > Anyway, I'll be posting a new 0.28 release later today, based upon > > which Daniel will post a new package, with himself listed as > > maintainer. We'll proceed from there. > > seems these words are not worth

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-25 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 25 July 2014 15:28, Daniel Baumann wrote: > Serge Hallyn >> Anyway, I'll be posting a new 0.28 release later today, based upon >> which Daniel will post a new package, with himself listed as >> maintainer. We'll proceed from there. > > seems these words are not worth anything. > > instead, Se

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-25 Thread Daniel Baumann
Serge Hallyn > Anyway, I'll be posting a new 0.28 release later today, based upon > which Daniel will post a new package, with himself listed as > maintainer. We'll proceed from there. seems these words are not worth anything. instead, Serge uploaded a new version (through Steve) yesterday, an

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-17 Thread Daniel Baumann
Dimitri, it doesn't make sense to discuss this any further since the original *technical* things behind it have changed *since* the time when cgmanager have been uploaded the first time. Just let Serge and me handle it from here, it will be alright (for both of us). Thanks, Daniel -- Addres

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-17 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 16 July 2014 19:30, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Thanks for this message. > > On 07/17/2014 01:00 AM, Paul Richards Tagliamonte wrote: >> Issues with 0.20: >> The -dev package situation is still broken. Either properly split your >> libraries or drop the -dev. Please see the mails f

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/17/2014 02:39 AM, Serge Hallyn wrote: >> My experience with upstream trying to do Debian packaging isn't great. >> Often, they only care about a single package, know it's upstream source, >> but don't perform well on the packaging side. I don't think what you've >> wrote above is a good point

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-16 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
[editing to only reply to parts] On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 02:30:26AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > I'm sorry if this sounds not so cool, but I'm not sure I get this. > Ansgar wrote that there should be a -dev package (on which Daniel wrote > back that he thought it'd be micro-packaging, which is s

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-16 Thread Serge Hallyn
> My experience with upstream trying to do Debian packaging isn't great. > Often, they only care about a single package, know it's upstream source, > but don't perform well on the packaging side. I don't think what you've > wrote above is a good point of argumentation. Uh, thanks. Anyway, I'll be

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-16 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 07/16/2014 08:30 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Please provide a clear and motivated reason about rejecting that can make sense for Daniel and his sponsor, so that the next upload attempt is successful, which would save time and effort for everyone. this is not needed from ftp-master anymore, Ser

Bug#754910: cgmanager_0.20-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2014-07-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi Paul, Thanks for this message. On 07/17/2014 01:00 AM, Paul Richards Tagliamonte wrote: > Hello, folks; (this mail is going to both of y'all) > > It's clear there's an overlap in who the rightful maintainer is. dba got here > first, but serge holds the ITP (basically the mutex in this race co