That sounds like the classic case of the cable being installed backwards
on one end. Remember - the red stripe on the cable goes to pin 1 on
both the drive and the controller. Try unplugging just one end of the
cable, turning it around, and plugging it back in.
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pppconfig.
xanadu:/etc/ppp/peers#
Does the demand line have to go on a particular line? I'm wanting to
get this working, as the box in question is going to become the gateway
for the house.
Thanks
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chine on the
LAN was concerned xanadu was gone. So I had to reboot using the reset
button on the case. I'm suspecting hardware problems. Joy.
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distro.
Sounds like the Netscape you have is the libc5 version. You need the
glibc version. If you are downloadinbg from Netscape's site you need to
get the one under the "Unsupported" option. That is the glibc version.
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have are built around the Lucent PCI chipsets, either the
> software controller or the "software upgradable" hardware controller ones.
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html is a decently large list that
might be of some help.
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FWIW when I do an smbmount here I have to use the -I switch followed by
the IP address of the machine I'm accessing. An example is:
smbmount \\george\d /mnt -I 192.168.1.2
I don't know why, but that's what it took for smbmount to work here.
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> Excel
> Photoshop 5.0
Gimp.
> LightWave5.5
> 3DSMax
> Director 6.0
> Palm Desktop
> RioShell 3.0
Check http://www.world.co.uk/sba/index.htm for apps dealing with MP3
players.
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Looking at http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ I
found 4 links for that model. Of those 4, only one had any real
info. Take a look at
http://www.new.ox.ac.uk/~adam/computing/ThinkPad/ Looks like what you
need is there.
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7;ve always done it the way I outlined above and haven't had a problem
yet. Frankly, I really don't see a need to do the make-kpkg thing.
The "traditional" way works fine for me, and as the saying goes "If it
ain't broke don't fix it".
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Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
>
> How do you install a MDP7800SP-U Modem (Aztech 56)? Haven't been
> succesfull.
And you probably never will be. According to
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
you've got a winmodem there, near as I can tell.
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Seems to have worked
decently for him - though he used Red Hat 5.2 that shouldn't differ
too much.
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Mor
hardness is to have the
water sampled and analyzed.
What are you wanting to do with these? If you could be more specific I
can probably get more specific with answers.
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where it came from (Corwin of Amber, maybe?). The last three
I don't recognize, but the theme is clear enough from the first three. Is
that good enough for half-credit?
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x27;s not related to whether I'm
running potato, slink, or whatever else. I did my upgrade via apt - that
was *really* easy. Basically it was one command line, go to bed, get up
in the morning with a fresh potato system.
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r which I would like to use
> with 2.3.x
> kernel, if you all suggest.
Might want to head on over to http://www.linux-usb.org/ and take a look
around there. According to that site, USB support has been in the 2.2
line since 2.2.7
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Head on over to http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ and
take a look around. Lots of info there.
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, for instance, one user was to startx from,
say, VC 1 and then another user, for example root, was to do startx from
another VC. Would that start another X on VC 8? I think I'll have to try
that next time I'm on my slink box.
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throwing Motif out of consideration as IIRC it's the one of the listed
that costs. (and costs quite a bit as I remember) I'm certainly open to
any suggestions.
I'm not looking to do anything fancy yet - just the basics so I can learn
how it all works. Any ideas?
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Thanks for the tips and pointers from everyone. I think I'm going to
start with lesstif and see what happens.
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Todd Suess wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> I just got a new printer, a Canon BJC1000 which I got for free,
This printer does not do plain text. According to
http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/show_printer.cgi?recnum=139017
it works using the BJC600 or BJC4000 Ghostscript driv
ot a client
> for Linux which keeps accounts separate while allowing people to access
> multiple accounts at once. Absurd.
Wrong. mutt can do that just fine.
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From: line is used.
Seems I misunderstood exactly what you meant.
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John Anderson wrote:
> This sounds stupid, but when I installed Debian I selected EST vs. EDT. I
> have tried using the date command with no success. Any suggestions?
Try tzconfig
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a slightly modified version of the exact rule I was using. The
deliver line is what actually sends it on the the abuse address, and the next
line (seen finish) says to *not* do any further handling of that message.
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own.
Perhaps that'll get you pointed in the right direction ...
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a user that I can specify in cron that will work without
> being logged in (in case power goes out and I don't wake up and log back
> in)?
You do not have to be logged in to have a cron job run. The crontab I
inserted above works just fine if I'm not logged onto my box.
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;echo "" > /path/to/file" but I'm
not sure. I'm sure there are better ways to do it.
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kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:37:05PM -0400, Mike Werner wrote:
> > Brent Harding wrote:
> > > How would cron do something such as, emailing a file once and awhile,
> > > make
> > > the file empty, and wait until the nex
#x27;t everything. I'd
> like to get kde for example, and that isn't on there. Gaim too. Thanks
http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/apt-sources/
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nel.
>
> Anyone have any ideas why a data cd comes up fine but an audio cd balks?
Probably because there's no filesystem on an audio CD. They're just not
meant to be mounted.
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is not too long ago.
The 'net install does *not* support installing the base packages via PPP.
However, having said that - once I got the base installed everything else
went smoothly.
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ll on both machines.
But what it all comes down to, really, is what works best for *you*. That's
one of the things that I *really* like about Linux - you've got the choices
out there.
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ould have answers for you.
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7;d say stay with potato as much as
possible. If a home workstation, I'd say go with whichever strikes your
fancy.
I've been running woody for a few months now with very few problems. Every
now and then a package will get a bit bollixed, but usually gets straightened
c/inittab There's probably a lot
more detail to it than that, but that's the basics. There's some more
information in the man page for inittab.
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s message:
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Cc:
> Sent Date:2000/9/15 AM 10:37:41
> Subject: Re: corruption during power loss
- End forwarded message -
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QBA wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for a program (fast and reliable with recursive grabbing)
> that will mirror any URL with all files and links. Something like
> teleport pro for windows.
> Any suggestions?
wget
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ice. So unless you've recompiled your kernel you should be good on
that point.
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efault being not to verify.
If, on the other hand, you are wanting to just reduce the amount of output
that gpg spits out, you might have a read-through of gpg's man page and then
try tweaking the options passed to gpg via your .muttrc In particular, I
believe gpg has a --quiet option that is
at way
for a while.
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pgpgltASPPBSd.pgp
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corruption problem. Haven't had a problem since switching.
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ux in a Nutshell - it now does covers apt-get, dpkg, dselect, and a few
others. Soon as my paycheck comes through I'll be picking up a copy.
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ge
go to the intended victim ... er, receipient?
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brian moore wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 01:55:44AM -0400, Mike Werner wrote:
> > brian moore wrote:
> >
> > > My solution is simply to refuse all mail from
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with postfix:
> > >
> > > Sep 23 16:58:25 bifur postfix
Everything
seems to work just fine here, so I've not been worried.
Oh yeah - I'm running woody.
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ssion to the
> end of the session.
tcpdump might be usable for that. The package name is, appropriately
enough, tcpdump
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end of my exim.conf - I'm not sure if it's
important where in the file that line is, but that's where the original file
had something similar.
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sembly \
wvuarc debian-laptop
# - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
I'm not too sure what the exact difference between email lists that are
listed under the lists entry, and the email lists that are listed under the
subscribe entry. So I put &
Petr [Dingo] Dvorak wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Mike Werner wrote:
>
> ->Petr [Dingo] Dvorak wrote:
> ->> hi,
> ->>
> ->> well, this is the deal, all the mailing lists what i'm on have
> X-Mailing-List
> ->> field in the mess
Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> What's the corresponding command in Linux to "tracert" from DOS to trace
> a rout? What package contains it?
The command is traceroute, in the package traceroute. Another utility of
that same type is called mtr, in the package mtr.
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got X back up and running here. I think I'll be holding onto a copy of that
particular version for a little while. It's about 420k or so - if you need
a copy I can email it to you or something.
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email. After
editing your message, when you get the mutt screen where you would press y
to send the message press a instead. You'll be prompted for the filename to
attach. As usual, hit ? for the directory browser.
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27;ve done it with slink, potato, and now woody. In the process I've
gone through a few different mother board / CPU combos. It would seem that
whatever the problems with gpm and X cooperating are, they are most
certainly not consistent.
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sitting here. The quality is
quite good, it's *way* faster than the inkjet downstairs, and I read that
it's just about *the* cheapest printer to run per sheet out there. I'm
using lprng and magicfilter for printing, and setting up the LJIII was a
snap.
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#x27;s site via apt-get - I had
gone to 4.73 but had problems with it so went back to 4.72.
Just to be sure of myself, I just fired up Netscape. Got it grabbing the
weather radar loop now. XMMS is also playing - Mason William's "Classical
Gas" - without a hitch. Looks li
Corey Popelier wrote:
> I see this is now debbed in woody, anyone done the upgrade from 3.3.6
> yet? Any problems?
Where did you see this? I just did an apt-get update, and the X versions
are still at 3.3.6
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did my last dist-upgrade, so I know quite how you feel.
::grin:: Here's hoping they do come soon.
> Excuse me whilst I pop out and shoot myself.
Oh, I don't think anything quite *that* drastic is called for. How about,
oh, say, 10 lashes with a piece of spaghetti (al dente, of co
it lasted all of about an hour before I got rid of it and went back to
Debian. I find the package management under Debian - using apt - to be
*much* easier than dealing with rpm's. apt also has far better dependancy
handling than what I saw with RedHat.
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ust the name of this system,
that'd be a huge help - at least I'd know what to search on. ::grin::
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ing that the Windoze machine has an entry in the /etc/hosts
file on the Linux box. Otherwise, the Windoze machine's hostname can be
replaced by its numeric IP.
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| "As f
Markus Fischer wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 02:53:18PM -0400, Mike Werner wrote :
> > Now, from any of those labs when you logon, you basically get
> > connected automatically to naur. All of the account info is (I presume)
> > stored on naur as well.
>
>
ve
not enabled more VT's than what comes stock). Having said that, is there a
particular reason you don't just use an xterm (or rxvt or eterm or ...)?
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I manage.
So I'd say go ahead and give exim a whirl. I found it quite easy to
configure, and use its built-in filtering capability to sort my email into
seperate directories. Quite easy to deal with, and I found the syntax of
the filter easier to understand than procmail&
re information is needed.
What have you done so far?
What, if any, error messages are you seeing?
What are the exact commands you have tried?
What release of Debian are you using?
What kernel?
What version of the pcmcia drivers are you using?
What make and model of PCMCIA card do you have?
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er you will be asked to confirm moving read messages from
your spool mailbox to your `mbox'' mailbox, or as a result of a
`mbox-hook'' command.
Check your ~/.muttrc and see what those options are set to.
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aving any of thes files so i wounder whis packages they are in
> so i can instal them.
For future reference, there is a search engine at:
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
where you can search by filename to find what package they belong to.
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while others are close to being
empty. As soon as I can afford a CD burner I'm going to archive everything
off and either turn it back into one large partition or *maybe* 2 or 3
larger partitions. I don't know yet.
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a where. And since I've no idea where to look next I'm not sure
what to do next.
I'm running woody up-to-date as of 5 minutes ago, kernel 2.2.16, PII 300MHz,
64 megs RAM, Helix Gnome / Sawfish.
Anyone out there ever seen anything like this?
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r a while. Till then, I'll just try
and put up with my current card. Who knows - perhaps the SVGA server in
XFree86 4.0 will work better with this chip.
Thanks for the speedy reply.
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Rogerio Brito wrote:
> On Jul 08 2000, Mike Werner wrote:
> > Looks like that's it, alright. I just popped my case to
> > double-check, and I am indeed using an S3 Virge/DX vid card with the
> > SVGA server. ::sigh::
>
> Is there any reason why you d
Mike Werner wrote:
> Rogerio Brito wrote:
> > On Jul 08 2000, Mike Werner wrote:
> > Try it and let us know.
>
> If I can ever get the package downloaded I will - I'm currently getting
> *really* low throughput.
It's now installed. I ran the combo t
nd of
the row above the letters won't work. You *must* use the + and - that are
on the numeric keypad. It *does* make a difference.
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sure if this would work, but perhaps changing:
ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now
to
ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/bin/false
or something like that? Or perhaps replace /bin/false with the path to a
shell script that put saomething like:
Permission denied! Go away!
onto stdout.
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t you connected to,
not the one you connect from. If you're not going to do anything too
terribly fancy, the man page will suffice to get you going.
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y, but I know I had WP at least with potato - not
sure if I had WP with slink or not, but I think I did.
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rely I can't remember) under Windoze. The MAC address is the Ethernet
card's hardware address.
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Johann Spies wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 05:12:00PM -0400, Mike Werner wrote:
> > Which version of Word Perfect? I've got WP8 here, and it runs just fine.
> > I'm currently running woody, but I know I had WP at least with potato - not
> > sure if I had WP w
ages you might want to go back through and thin out a
few of 'em. I'm slowly in the process of doing just that, though I'm in no
rush at all.
As for what dselect was doing, ya got me. Me and dselect have never gotten
along, so I ignore it completely in favor of apt-get.
-
elnet available" I take that means that SSH is not
available at the computer you have access to at work? If so, then perhaps
you should look into finding an SSH client tat you can out onto the computer
at work if at all possible.
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hat package
depends on the task-helix-core package. The end effect is the same either
way.
Also, I believe the original poster said he was using his system
command-line only - the task-helix-core package also depends on the core
XWindows package, and the task-helix-core package will bring in the
Saw
to get me started in
> configuring my Hewlett-Packard Deskjet 820C to print on my stand-alone
> computer. Or, if there's good documentation that comes with the
> Debian 2.1 Slink installation that I haven't been able to locate,
> please point me there.
Start w
t it?
Appropriately, the package name is libc5
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;release versions" of these browsers?
Again, I really don't know what you mean by this.
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portion from my sources.list:
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib
non-free
If you want to use ftp instead of http, just change the instances of http to
ftp and you should be good to go.
-
My Helix
Gnome installation has been faithfully kept up-to-date by a daily apt-get
update; apt-get dist-upgrade just fine.
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r, in the process of recompiling
the kernel I redid some of the other peripherals to get them working better,
or in the case of the sound card to get it working at all.
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via apt-get ... worked just fine. And when I've done the apt-get update
here on my systems the files from tdyc.com comes down just fine.
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s. ::shrug:: I'm
not real sure about it all, but it works.
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already have installed?
dpkg -l
It's likely to be a long list, so you might want to either pipe it through a
pager - I use "dpkg -l | less" - or you could redirect it into a file.
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Arcady Genkin wrote:
> What alternatives to fdisk are there? I remember I used one once, but
> shoot me if I remember the name. ;^)
cfdisk comes to mind ... it's what I use when possible.
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you. There are numerous
other things mc can do that I find invaluable, but that's for another
thread.
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cam wrote:
> I have a Lexmark 5700 inkjet printer. I was wondering if this printer
> works under Linux (woody version) and if it works...how might I get it
> working? any help would be appreciated.
http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=62016
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either:
Hit F3 to view a listing of the files contained in the archive
or
Hit Enter to browse the archive as if it were a directory
Altogether a most usefull little program.
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Andrew McRobert wrote:
> hi
>
> Does anyone know the syntax to use 'alien' to convert from rpm to .tar.gz.
> The man page says this can be done, but doesn't say how ... the closest
> thing listed is "alien -t [file]" which produces [file].tgz ...
.tgz =
> - Is there any way that I can use my ATI Rage LT Pro AGP 2X video card with
> the acelerated servers in X Window?
This is the same chip that's in my laptop. The Mach64 server is the proper
one for that chipset.
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Marko Cehaja wrote:
> By the way, Netscape doesn't exist in Debian.
Huh?!? apt-get install netscape *will* install Netscape 4.73 just fine.
That's how I got Netscape onto my system. Sure looks like it exists to me.
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Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe
Marko Cehaja wrote:
> Dear
>
> sorry, I wanted to post it to the list. So previous email went to you
> privately.
>
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 01:56:18PM -0400, Mike Werner wrote:
> > >
> > > You are wrong. apt-get is: package handling utility. It is not
>
Marko Cehaja wrote:
> Dear friend,
>
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 02:56:03PM -0400, Mike Werner wrote:
> > > > format, but written by someone else. So now I'm curious as to just
> > > > what it
> > > > takes to be considered to exist as part of Deb
n our FTP
> archive for this [non-free] software. The software in these
> directories is not part of the Debian system, although it has been
> configured for use with Debian. ...
And as I said in that same other post, why not take the packages of
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