With the recent LC_ALL thread, I noticed I have LC_TIME set by
mysterious means on at least two headless systems, for example:
$ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.utf8
LC_TIME=en_DK.utf8
LC_COLLATE=en_US.utf8
LC_MONETARY=en_US.utf8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.utf8
LC_P
Hello fellow Debianites!
I want do do a custom CLI for a project, and I am quite happy with the
Python cmd module. Aside from having a practically un-googleable name
it is very nice, and does a lot with very little code. So far, so good.
But:
If I write a Python script with this module, and expos
On 2/15/24 07:41, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2024-02-15 at 03:09, David Christensen wrote:
On 2/14/24 18:54, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2024-01-09 at 14:22, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2024-01-09 at 14:01, Michael Kjörling wrote:
On 9 Jan 2024 13:25 -0500, from The Wanderer
I've ordered a 22TB external d
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:13:40AM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote:
> In my opinion it's often too much to set LC_ALL=C because it changes
> charset to ASCII (LC_CTYPE).
It depends on what you're doing, of course. If the purpose is to
normalize error messages so that you can report your issue to an
En
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 10:24:07AM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:
> With the recent LC_ALL thread, I noticed I have LC_TIME set by
> mysterious means on at least two headless systems, for example:
>
> $ locale
> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> LANGUAGE=
> LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8
> LC_NUMERIC=en_US.utf8
> LC_TIME=en_DK.
gene heskett wrote:
> On 2/15/24 15:45, Andy Smith wrote:
>
> > MD RAID isn't the only way to achieve redundancy. You also haven't
> > explained why you need LVM. Depending on your needs, maybe a
> > filesystem with redundancy and volume management features in it
> > would be better. Like btrfs o
> I need to identify the package responsible for creating the software
> sources window. There is a minor bug/typo where the first tab reads
> "Ubuntu Software"
If all else fails, you can always try something like:
find / -mount -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -al "Ubuntu Software"
to find f
Greg Wooledge writes:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 10:24:07AM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:
>> With the recent LC_ALL thread, I noticed I have LC_TIME set by
>> mysterious means on at least two headless systems, for example:
>>
>> $ locale
>> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>> LANGUAGE=
>> LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8
>> LC_N
On 2/16/24, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:33:16 -0500
> Neal Heinecke wrote:
>
>> I need to identify the package responsible for creating the software
>> sources window. There is a minor bug/typo where the first tab reads
>> "Ubuntu Software"
>
> I have no idea what a "software s
On 16/02/2024 12:16, Charles Curley wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:33:16 -0500
Neal Heinecke wrote:
I need to identify the package responsible for creating the software
sources window. There is a minor bug/typo where the first tab reads
"Ubuntu Software"
I have no idea what a "software sources
cruft report: Fri Feb 16 08:54:01 2024
missing: dpkg
/etc/network/if-post-down.d/wireless-tools
/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ethtool
/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools
/etc/network/if-up.d/ethtool
wireless-tools and ethtool owns these files but are missi
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 03:34:12PM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:
> Yah. It was ssh passing through all that. On serial console, locale
> settings are as expected:
>
> $ locale
> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> LANGUAGE=en_US:en
> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
[...]
Well
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:05:28PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 16/02/2024 12:16, Charles Curley wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:33:16 -0500
> > Neal Heinecke wrote:
> >
> > > I need to identify the package responsible for creating the software
> > > sources window. There is a minor bug/typo w
On 2024-02-16 at 09:14, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 20:33:16 -0500 Neal Heinecke wrote:
>>>
I need to identify the package responsible for creating the
software sources window. There is a minor bug/typo where the
first tab reads "Ubuntu Software"
> I would also po
Hello,
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 01:16:59AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> On 2/15/24 16:20, Andy Smith wrote:
> > Suppose you have the MD array /dev/md42. What are you conceptually
> > wanting to do with that in relation to labels of some kind? What
> > information is it that you want?
> >
> > Suppo
On 16/02/2024 21:14, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:05:28PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
I suspect that program name is the question. If "ps awf" gives no clue then
perhaps the following may help (untested):
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/362731/how-to-identify-window-by
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 01:32:26AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> On 2/15/24 16:20, David Wright wrote:
> ># gdisk -l /dev/sdz
> >GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 1.0.3
> >
> >Partition table scan:
> > MBR: protective
> > BSD: not present
> > APM: not present
> > GPT: p
On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 08:02:12AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
What Thomas was trying to do is to get a cheap, fast random number
generator. Shred seems to have such.
You're better off with /dev/urandom, it's much easier to understand what
it's trying to do, vs the rather baroque logic in s
Hi,
On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 08:44:26PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> On 2/15/24 15:45, Andy Smith wrote:
> > MD RAID isn't the only way to achieve redundancy. You also haven't
> > explained why you need LVM. Depending on your needs, maybe a
> > filesystem with redundancy and volume management featu
On Thu, 2024-02-15 at 20:33 -0500, Neal Heinecke wrote:
> I need to identify the package responsible for creating the software
> sources window. There is a minor bug/typo where the first tab reads
> "Ubuntu Software"
This could be synaptic?
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
Does th
On 2/16/24 07:46, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
gene heskett wrote:
On 2/15/24 15:45, Andy Smith wrote:
MD RAID isn't the only way to achieve redundancy. You also haven't
explained why you need LVM. Depending on your needs, maybe a
filesystem with redundancy and volume management features
On 2024-02-16 09:06 -0500, Gremlin wrote:
> cruft report: Fri Feb 16 08:54:01 2024
> missing: dpkg
> /etc/network/if-post-down.d/wireless-tools
> /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ethtool
> /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools
> /etc/network/if-up.d/ethtool
>
>
On 16/02/24 at 13:17, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:13:40AM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote:
In my opinion it's often too much to set LC_ALL=C because it changes
charset to ASCII (LC_CTYPE).
It depends on what you're doing, of course. If the purpose is to
normalize error messages
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 05:35:04PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote:
> It was stated here:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/02/msg00592.html
"I think that a recorded session with the output of the commands in
English is better then a localized session for debugging purposes."
I have troubl
I have a laptop with a recent Debian install, which seems to have
incorrect permissions on /dev/tty
crw--w 1 root tty 5, 0 Feb 16 08:51 /dev/tty
/lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules contains the usual
SUBSYSTEM=="tty", KERNEL=="tty", GROUP="tty", MODE="0666"
More strangely, udevadm info
On Fri 16 Feb 2024 at 09:12:24 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 03:34:12PM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:
> > Yah. It was ssh passing through all that. On serial console, locale
> > settings are as expected:
> >
> > $ locale
> > LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> > LANGUAGE=en_US:en
> > LC_CTYPE
For a couple weeks now, I can't use graphical terminal in my GRUB
configuration. Setting `GRUB_TERMINAL=console` works fine. With that line
commented out, (thus using default settings), I get a blank screen on boot, 5
second timeout, then normal boot.
Curiously, keyboard commands work normally.
Joe Pfeiffer writes:
> I have a laptop with a recent Debian install, which seems to have
> incorrect permissions on /dev/tty
>
> crw--w 1 root tty 5, 0 Feb 16 08:51 /dev/tty
Ah, found it. I somehow had a
/etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty.service
file.
Found it looking through
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 11:44:21AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 05:35:04PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote:
> > It was stated here:
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/02/msg00592.html
>
> "I think that a recorded session with the output of the commands in
> English
On 16/02/2024 17:27, Borden wrote:
For a couple weeks now, I can't use graphical terminal in my GRUB
configuration. Setting `GRUB_TERMINAL=console` works fine. With that line
commented out, (thus using default settings), I get a blank screen on boot, 5
second timeout, then normal boot.
Curio
On Friday 16 February 2024 04:52:22 am David Christensen wrote:
> I think the Raspberry Pi, etc., users on this list live with USB storage
> and have found it to be reliable enough for personal and SOHO network use.
I have one, haven't done much with it. Are there any alternative ways to
inte
I've got a relatively old laptop with an ATI Radeon HD card, which
firmware I can't update. Wild pixelations happen even on relatively
simple pages not just videos. It seems to be a common problem. What I
have searched and found out is that I will have to un/repack initramfs
..., but I haven't foun
On 2/15/24 12:19, gene heskett wrote:
On 2/15/24 11:21, Andy Smith wrote:
... redundancy plans ...
Like which version of a raid is the best at tolerating a failed drive,
which give he best balance between redundancy and capacity.
Given a small number of disks, N (say, 4 to 8), the obvious c
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 01:44:22PM -0600, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> I've got a relatively old laptop with an ATI Radeon HD card, which
> firmware I can't update. Wild pixelations happen even on relatively
> simple pages not just videos. It seems to be a common problem. What I
What is a "simple pag
On 2/16/24 10:56, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Friday 16 February 2024 04:52:22 am David Christensen wrote:
I think the Raspberry Pi, etc., users on this list live with USB storage
and have found it to be reliable enough for personal and SOHO network use.
I have one, haven't done much with
On 2/15/24 12:59, gene heskett wrote:
... gigastones, I 5 of them but when all
are plugged in there are only 3 becauae there are 2 pairs of matching
serial numbers ...
I recall 2 pairs of SSD's with matching serial numbers. Please remove
one SSD of each pair so that the remaining SSD's all
On Fri 16 Feb 2024 at 01:32:26 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
> On 2/15/24 16:20, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 15 Feb 2024 at 20:44:52 (+), Andy Smith wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 03:19:54PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> > > > On 2/15/24 11:21, Andy Smith wrote:
> > > > > You asked if "l
On Fri 16 Feb 2024 at 14:48:12 (+), Andy Smith wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 01:32:26AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> > On 2/15/24 16:20, David Wright wrote:
> > ># gdisk -l /dev/sdz
> > >GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 1.0.3
> > >
> > >Partition table scan:
> > > MBR: protective
On Fri 16 Feb 2024 at 11:59:40 (-0800), David Christensen wrote:
> On 2/15/24 12:59, gene heskett wrote:
> > ... gigastones, I 5 of them but when all
> > are plugged in there are only 3 becauae there are 2 pairs of
> > matching serial numbers ...
>
> I recall 2 pairs of SSD's with matching serial
On 2/15/24 17:44, gene heskett wrote:
One of the 1T samsungs in the md raid10 isn't entirely happy but mdadm
has not fussed about it, and smartctl seems to say its ok after testing.
Other than that the gui access delay (30+ seconds) problems I have did
NOT go away when I moved /home off the r
On 2024-02-16 at 14:44, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> I've got a relatively old laptop with an ATI Radeon HD card, which
> firmware I can't update. Wild pixelations happen even on relatively
> simple pages not just videos. It seems to be a common problem. What I
> have searched and found out is that I
On 2/15/24 22:16, gene heskett wrote:
I want to know with absolute certainty, with of the 4 drives in that
raid10, actually has a belly ache. When it has a belly ache. I can't see
any reason on this ball of rock and water, why I should be expected to
replace a drive at a time until the belly ac
>> One of the 1T samsungs in the md raid10 isn't entirely happy but mdadm has
>> not fussed about it, and smartctl seems to say its ok after testing.
>> Other than that the gui access delay (30+ seconds) problems I have did
>> NOT go away when I moved /home off the raid to another SSD, so I may mo
Hi,
Albretch Mueller wrote:
> > How can you update the initramfs on read-only media?
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> You can't. Initramfs resides in the boot medium. To update it,
> you have to write to said medium.
One will have to create a new read-only medium.
In case the original is a Debian Liv
On 2/16/24 12:46, Stefan Monnier wrote:
One of the 1T samsungs in the md raid10 isn't entirely happy but mdadm has
not fussed about it, and smartctl seems to say its ok after testing.
Other than that the gui access delay (30+ seconds) problems I have did
NOT go away when I moved /home off the r
Hey this looks like a fun thing to play with, I like what you've done.
I logged in and accessed it. Now that it's been some time since you
announced it and it's still running, I guess it has had some testing
already.
I don't see anything wrong with what you have done after a quick look,
it
On 2/16/24 15:47, Stefan Monnier wrote:
One of the 1T samsungs in the md raid10 isn't entirely happy but mdadm has
not fussed about it, and smartctl seems to say its ok after testing.
Other than that the gui access delay (30+ seconds) problems I have did
NOT go away when I moved /home off the r
On 16/02/24 at 17:44, Greg Wooledge wrote:
If my guess is correct, then I don't support the plan to modify the
Debian documentation to suggest that everyone log their dist-upgrades
in English "because if something goes wrong you will probably ask for
help from an English speaker". There are way
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 11:11:09AM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 16 Feb 2024 at 09:12:24 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 03:34:12PM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:
> > > Yah. It was ssh passing through all that. On serial console, locale
> > > settings are as expected:
> >
On 2/16/24 10:50, Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2024-02-16 09:06 -0500, Gremlin wrote:
cruft report: Fri Feb 16 08:54:01 2024
missing: dpkg
/etc/network/if-post-down.d/wireless-tools
/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ethtool
/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools
On 2/16/24 13:56, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Friday 16 February 2024 04:52:22 am David Christensen wrote:
I think the Raspberry Pi, etc., users on this list live with USB storage
and have found it to be reliable enough for personal and SOHO network use.
I have one, haven't done much with
On Fri 16 Feb 2024 at 16:25:05 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 11:11:09AM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 16 Feb 2024 at 09:12:24 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 03:34:12PM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:
> > > > Yah. It was ssh passing through al
Thank you for the tip!
So `GRUB_TERMINAL=gfxterm` works, `GRUB_TERMINAL=console` works, but whatever
the default is supposed to be does not. Does this imply that "the platform's
native terminal output" is broken?
On 2/16/24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 01:44:22PM -0600, Albretch Mueller wrote:
>> I've got a relatively old laptop with an ATI Radeon HD card, which
>> firmware I can't update. Wild pixelations happen even on relatively
>> simple pages not just videos. It seems to be a com
Hello,
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 02:02:59PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 16 Feb 2024 at 14:48:12 (+), Andy Smith wrote:
> > No, because it's a filesystem label for the ext4 fs created on
> > /dev/sdz1. If sdz1 is turned into an LVM Physical Volume, there
> > won't be an ext4 filesystem on
Hello,
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 03:46:54PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> FWIW, my crystal ball says "30s => software timeout rather than hardware
> problem"
Back in a previous thread Gene was saying that it's only evident
when some GUI app brings up a file requester to load or save
something so t
Good afternoon All
I have just rebooted this laptop to ensure it is 'fresh'
/ is reporting full.
Trying to locate where I ran
sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1 /
0 /mnt
181M/boot
15M /etc
0 /media
236M/opt
336K/root
0 /srv
4.0K/tmp
8.1G/usr
726M/var
9.2G
On Sat 17 Feb 2024 at 13:38:56 (+1100), Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> I have just rebooted this laptop to ensure it is 'fresh'
>
> / is reporting full.
>
> Trying to locate where I ran
>
> sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1 /
> 0 /mnt
> 181M /boot
> 15M /etc
> 0 /media
> 236M /opt
> 336K /root
On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 01:38:56PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> >> sudo df -h /
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda336G 35G 100M 100% /
First off: you don't need sudo for this, ever.
Second: what kind of file system is this?
> sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1
On 2/16/24 21:38, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
Good afternoon All
I have just rebooted this laptop to ensure it is 'fresh'
/ is reporting full.
Trying to locate where I ran
sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1 /
0 /mnt
181M /boot
15M /etc
0 /media
236M /opt
336K /root
0 /srv
4.0K /tm
On 16/02/2024 23:35, Franco Martelli wrote:
On 16/02/24 at 03:03, Max Nikulin wrote:
LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=it aptitude why firefox-esr
here seems to override, tested twice with "it" and "it_IT.UTF-8":
~# env LC_ALL=C LANGUAGE=it script -T ~/test.time -a ~/test.script
You tested with
On Sat 17 Feb 2024 at 02:12:49 (+), Andy Smith wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 02:02:59PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > … which would be moot if only Gene could create partition PARTLABELs
> > successfully.
>
> Sure, but we still don't know what Gene is trying to do or why
> partition names
On 17/2/24 13:52, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 01:38:56PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
>> sudo df -h /
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda336G 35G 100M 100% /
First off: you don't need sudo for this, ever.
Second: what kind of file syste
On 17/2/24 13:55, Gremlin wrote:
On 2/16/24 21:38, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
Good afternoon All
I have just rebooted this laptop to ensure it is 'fresh'
/ is reporting full.
Trying to locate where I ran
sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1 /
0 /mnt
181M /boot
15M /etc
0 /media
236M /opt
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 12:12:06PM -0800, David Christensen wrote:
> On 2/15/24 17:44, gene heskett wrote:
[...]
> > Other than that the gui access delay (30+ seconds) problems I have did
> > NOT go away when I moved /home off the raid to another SSD [...]
I think at this point few are surprise
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 03:46:54PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
[...]
> FWIW, my crystal ball says "30s => software timeout rather than hardware
> problem"
and whithin that, a network thingy. Ah, were it 90s, it'd be a DNS thingy.
But 30s...
Cheers
--
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On 2/16/24 21:13, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 02:02:59PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 16 Feb 2024 at 14:48:12 (+), Andy Smith wrote:
No, because it's a filesystem label for the ext4 fs created on
/dev/sdz1. If sdz1 is turned into an LVM Physical Volume, there
won'
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 06:43:19PM -0600, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> On 2/16/24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 01:44:22PM -0600, Albretch Mueller wrote:
[...]
> > What is a "simple page" and what does "pixelation" mean in this
> > context? Or is that irrelevant?
>
> A rela
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 05:19:10PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 16 Feb 2024 at 16:25:05 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
[...]
> > At this point we have no idea whether the ssh client is even a Unix/Linux
> > system. It could be anything. It could be a literal toaster.
>
> More likely an æ
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:52:22PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 01:38:56PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> > >> sudo df -h /
> > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/sda336G 35G 100M 100% /
>
> First off: you don't need sudo for this, eve
Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-17 15:44 (UTC+1100):
> Yes the / partitions are btrfs
df was not designed for the task you gave it. You need to use
btrfs filesystem
commands:
https://btrfs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/btrfs-filesystem.html
--
Evolution as taught in public schools is,
On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 03:44:49PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
[...]
> df -h
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> udev7.2G 0 7.2G 0% /dev
> tmpfs 1.5G 1.9M 1.5G 1% /run
> /dev/nvme0n1p2 63G 27G 35G 44% /
> tmpfs 7.3G 84M 7.2G
On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 12:47 AM gene heskett wrote:
>
> On 2/16/24 21:13, Andy Smith wrote:
> > [...]
> > Sure, but we still don't know what Gene is trying to do or why
> > partition names would be useful to him so I am kind of sceptical
> > that this leads anywhere.
> >
> That part if the ^%$ dr
Greg Wooledge writes:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 03:34:12PM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:
>> Yah. It was ssh passing through all that. On serial console, locale
>> settings are as expected:
>>
>> $ locale
>> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>> LANGUAGE=en_US:en
>> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
>
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