Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-09 Thread John Summerfield
bob parker wrote: On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 13:20, John Summerfield wrote: As for the money, I learned to write financial applications in COBOL. Whoops, it's extremely rusty. mony PIC S9(11v3) COMP-3. and in PL/1 money fixed dec(11,3). COBOL, such a beutiful language! If a total overflows the dest

Re: How to make starting disket?

2004-08-09 Thread cr
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 20:41, Juhani Vainio wrote: > I installed Sarge from net. The installation program did not propose to > make starting diskette. I installed grub to mbr and everything is ok, but I > want to make also a starting disket. Mr Murphy, you know. Apparently Debian relies on the CD.

Re: Bogus reply-to

2004-08-09 Thread Tim Connors
"Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sun, 8 Aug 2004 23:48:43 -0600: > On 2004-08-08, Tim Connors penned: > > "Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sun, 8 Aug 2004 > > 10:05:12 -0600: > > > > I suggest that gmane is the wrong tool for the job - I;ve heard plenty > > of people s

Re: grub/lilo - Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-09 Thread John Summerfield
Alvin Oga wrote: hi ya john On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, John Summerfield wrote: This is the major thing that annoys me. Which moron is it that decided GRUB is better i still like that comment :-) lots of good and bad morons .. but all wants it to be "better" ... grub _is_ better. How could

Re: raid Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-09 Thread John Summerfield
Alvin Oga wrote: On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Paul Gear wrote: Joey Hess wrote: .. - software RAID support But not on /boot or /. I find this just unfathomable. What do i do if the disk containing / dies? if raid is configured properly ... it will still boot ... if / is on /dev/hd

Help with Woody Install

2004-08-09 Thread Ben Alex
Hi everyone I'm trying to install Woody (my first Debian installation) on a HP Netserver LC 2000. The problem relates to SCSI and RAID detection. When using the boot "compact" option it detects the SCSI controller (a Symbios 53C896 according to POST), but not the RAID (a HP NetRAID adapter 1Si

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Re: Re: Is there a *console* screen capture

2004-08-09 Thread Scott G. Hall
I am not sure I recall an answer to this question. I too am looking for a screen capture utility for a Debian-based system. Text captures are easy -- I am a long-time UNIX user and sys-admin. In Solaris there is an xgrab utility that allows you to define the upper-left and lower-right corners, t

Re: Is there a *console* screen capture

2004-08-09 Thread John Summerfield
Scott G. Hall wrote: I am not sure I recall an answer to this question. I too am looking for a screen capture utility for a Debian-based system. Text captures are easy -- I am a long-time UNIX user and sys-admin. In Solaris there is an xgrab utility that allows you to define the upper-left and l

debian on floppy disks

2004-08-09 Thread charlie
Hello my name is Charlie and i recently bought a DIGITAL Brand laptop from ebay. it has Windows 98 on it. It doesnt possess a cd rom drive and i was interested if i could purchase/download a version of your linux on Floppy disks. thank you for your time. charlie souris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Installing from ftp

2004-08-09 Thread Robert Golovniov
Hello, I am having an old Deskpro 575 and want to try installing Woody on it. I cannot run it off the DVD install edition, so I just copied all the files to another machine on the LAN running an FTP server. How can I instruct Debian install to get the files from there? Is there

Re: debian on floppy disks

2004-08-09 Thread John Summerfield
charlie wrote: Hello my name is Charlie and i recently bought a DIGITAL Brand laptop from ebay. it has Windows 98 on it. It doesnt possess a cd rom drive and i was interested if i could purchase/download a version of your linux on Floppy disks. thank you for your time. Sure. See www.debian.org t

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2004-08-09 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 08:24:34PM +0200, John L Fjellstad wrote: > Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> > 6. It must have a decent expiry system. > >> > >> You don't need a mailclient to have a decent expiry system if you are > >> using Maildir. Since all new mail goes into {MAILBOXN

Re: Is there a *console* screen capture

2004-08-09 Thread Roy Pluschke
On August 10, 2004 00:34, Scott G. Hall wrote: > I am not sure I recall an answer to this question. I too am looking for > a screen capture utility for a Debian-based system. Text captures are > easy -- I am a long-time UNIX user and sys-admin. In Solaris there is an > xgrab utility that allows

Re: Help with Woody Install

2004-08-09 Thread Simon Kitching
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 19:38, Ben Alex wrote: > Hi everyone > > I'm trying to install Woody (my first Debian installation) Hi Ben, I can't offer any advice on your SCSI/RAID issues. But are you aware that Debian is pretty close now to releasing a new version that will make Woody obsolete? The

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-09 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:21:39AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:58:57PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > > > The d-i team is having nightmares right now because packages they depend > > on keep changing. > > What ever happened to the idea of a "freeze"? I seem to recall

Re: Sarge

2004-08-09 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 08:47:24PM +0200, Patrick Donker wrote: > Peeps, > > Anyone knows when Sarge will be released? I have a Compaq ML370 waiting > for me, but I'd rather install the latest and greatest on it. Question > is, how long before I can install? 2 weeks! -- You win again, gravity

Re: Configuration DB

2004-08-09 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 12:51:23PM +1000, Cameron Hutchison wrote: > Once upon a time John Hasler said... > > Cameron Hutchison writes: > > > Hard disk crash. I've gone through the same pain as the original poster. > > > > So you mean restore, not reinstall. > > Well, both. I restored my system b

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-09 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello! On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:24:57AM +1000, Tim Connors wrote: > Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sun, 08 Aug 2004 15:07:19 -0700: > > "Please participate in popularity-contest" > > Damn. Can't sorry. > > Laptop users typically turn off access time, to stop excess HD > accesses, and p

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-09 Thread CaT
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 11:28:44AM +0200, Florian Ernst wrote: > > Laptop users typically turn off access time, to stop excess HD > > accesses, and popcon needs accesstime to work. > > Popcon only needs atime to determine which packages have actually been > _used_ lately, so you can still run it.

Re: raid Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-09 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya john On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, John Summerfield wrote: > Paul wants / and /boot on mdo and/or md0. I can do it, but the installer > can't. Paul wants to be able to take either one drive out and boot. Always. if one can't boot off of either disk, its NOT raid ... and cannot claim to be raid ...

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-09 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello! On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 07:32:28PM +1000, CaT wrote: > On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 11:28:44AM +0200, Florian Ernst wrote: > > > > Popcon only needs atime to determine which packages have actually been > > _used_ lately, so you can still run it. > > I turn off atime on my partitions to speed u

Re: grub/lilo - Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-09 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya john On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, John Summerfield wrote: > From the commandline, you can get lilo to boot a spefic menu item for donno .. i never used lilo on the command line to boot a specific kernel i always configure a lilo.xxx.conf and use lilo -C lilo.xxx.conf for whatever it's supposed

Network connection failing, but adaptors still "up"

2004-08-09 Thread Pete Clarke
Hi all, I have a strange problem, that I am sure is my fault somehow :-) I have 2 thunderlan cards in a server, they are set up to use active-backup bonding. After an undetermined period they stop communicating with the network, although the link is apparently "up" still ... mii-tool reports 100m

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-09 Thread Anders Karlsson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Nelson wrote: | On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:21:39AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: |>On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:58:57PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: |> |>>The d-i team is having nightmares right now because packages they depend |>>on keep changing. |> |

Re: Debian and IBM xSeries 336 8676-71x - LSI 53C1030 SCSI controller

2004-08-09 Thread mailinglist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 16:58, venerdì 6 agosto 2004, Andraz Sraka ha scritto: > On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 16:44, Dino wrote: > > We have a new IBM xSeries 335 8676-71X with 1GB RAM, two SCSI Disks 10K > > RPM 36.4GB and a LSI 53C1030 Mirroring Raid controller. > > > > We

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-09 Thread bob parker
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 17:13, John Summerfield wrote: > bob parker wrote: > >On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 13:20, John Summerfield wrote: > >>As for the money, I learned to write financial applications in COBOL. > >>Whoops, it's extremely rusty. > >>mony PIC S9(11v3) COMP-3. > >>and in PL/1 > >>money fixed dec(11

Re: Loading kernel modules at startup

2004-08-09 Thread Icebiker
Ooh! modconf! It wasn't installed (how would I know?). When I tried to install modules, it complained that modprobe.conf wasn't there. So I created an empty modprobe.conf and was able to install the modules (which caused problems with X, so I deleted it again). Was that an appropriate action? In

Squatted harddisk

2004-08-09 Thread list-account
Help! My harddisks are being sqautted by renegade bits! No, seriousely, my hdd's are slowly filling up, but I'm not realy sure with what. How can I get a comprehensive overview which files are where occupying what space? I tried df, but that is very minimalistic. I'd like to get a treeview of files

Re: OpenOffice won't print anymore

2004-08-09 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Christian Schnobrich wrote: > On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 13:15, Henry Hollenberg wrote: > > > My OpenOffice printing just broke after a testing upgrade also. > > As of today, it's fixed on my machine. I haven't checked for the last > few weeks, but today's upgrade replaced the whole of cups and O

Re: Squatted harddisk

2004-08-09 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 02:22:16PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Help! My harddisks are being sqautted by renegade bits! > No, seriousely, my hdd's are slowly filling up, but I'm not realy sure > with what. How can I get a comprehensive overview which files are where > occupying what space? I t

Samba + cups - doesn't work after boot until samba restarted

2004-08-09 Thread Robert S
I just installed the latest stable version of debian 3.0 on our small office network (mainly windows 2000). It's going to function as a remote access, mail and print server. I am pretty new to debian but chose it for its ease of upgrading and reputed stability and reliability. I set up cups and

Duplicates my fault... sorry

2004-08-09 Thread Brian Pack
With a gentle prod from Alvin Oga, I figured out my duplicates situation. In anticipation of receiving mailing list stuff, I'd set up a filter to move posts into it's own folder. Then I set up a second one when I saw that nothing matched the first one. Posts were duplicated once they hit the filter

Re: Help with Woody Install

2004-08-09 Thread John Summerfield
Simon Kitching wrote: On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 19:38, Ben Alex wrote: Hi everyone I'm trying to install Woody (my first Debian installation) Hi Ben, I can't offer any advice on your SCSI/RAID issues. But are you aware that Debian is pretty close now to releasing a new version that will make W

Re: Squatted harddisk

2004-08-09 Thread Clive Menzies
On (09/08/04 14:22), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:22:16 +0200 (CEST) > Subject: Squatted harddisk > > Help! My harddisks are being sqautted by renegade bits! > No, seriousely, my hdd's are slowly filling up, but I'm not realy

k3b and dvd+rw-tools

2004-08-09 Thread Cedric Gavage
Hi, I have a strange thing with k3b... dvd+rw-tools package is installed, when I start k3b, I receive a warning with "Unable to find dvd+rw-format" but dvd+rw-format is in /usr/bin and it's in the search path of k3b... Any idea? -- |- Cedric Gavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |-- http://unixtech.be -

Re: grub/lilo - Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-09 Thread John Summerfield
donno .. i never used lilo on the command line to boot a specific kernel i always configure a lilo.xxx.conf and use lilo -C lilo.xxx.conf for whatever it's supposed to have as options on the next boot the next boot and then revert to the usual default. I don't have a system with lilo to had, b

Re: Squatted harddisk

2004-08-09 Thread Robert Waldner
On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 14:22:16 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >How can I get a comprehensive overview which files are where >occupying what space? I tried df, but that is very minimalistic. I'd like >to get a treeview of files and space in use... >Any suggestions? http://packages.debian.org/filel

Re: Squatted harddisk

2004-08-09 Thread list-account
> > On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 14:22:16 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>How can I get a comprehensive overview which files are where >>occupying what space? I tried df, but that is very minimalistic. I'd like >>to get a treeview of files and space in use... >>Any suggestions? > > http://packages.debian

Inconsistency detected by ld.so

2004-08-09 Thread P V Mathew
Hello, Would some one guide me regarding the following error: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h: 647: elf_machine_rel_relative: Assertion (((reloc->r_info) & 0xff) == 8) failed! The above occurred on my intel celeron 1.2GHz, debian sid system with i810 mot

Re: OpenOffice won't print anymore

2004-08-09 Thread Henry Hollenberg
Christian Schnobrich wrote: Hi, i received you mail twice, but couldn't find it on the mailing list. Had you sent a copy there, people who know better than me would already have answered... On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 21:17, Henry Hollenberg wrote: What do you mean by a dist-upgrade? Is that an apt-get

Re: Bogus reply-to

2004-08-09 Thread Jim Bailey
On Aug 08, 11:22, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > On 2004-08-09, Tim Connors penned: > > > > What I am saying, is all of these discussion lists have differnt > > policies. It's kind of silly expecting people to remember which > > policy belongs to which list, and blasting people when they get it > > wr

Re: xfree86 ati problem with 2.6.0 kernel

2004-08-09 Thread kalanikta
You don't seem to have drm modules installed, that enables the use of direct rendering, for opengl acceleration and tv-output etc, check out gatos.sourceforge.net for recent drivers. Framebuffer should be configged in the kernel itself too, try switching to more recent source (I'm running 2.6.4 wi

Need help with new 5-button mouse

2004-08-09 Thread John Foster
I just installed a new 5-button Fellowes mouse; 4-buttons & a scrolling wheel. I have tried the autops2 setting & the right, left, & wheel(button) function work but the scrolling function does not. I also tried the fups2, & brw drivers whith similar results. I have the mouse connected throug

Re: Sid is Sid, before or after a release, right?

2004-08-09 Thread Wim De Smet
On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 00:52:02 -0700, William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 07:39:25AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > reliability. Run testing otherwise for general day to day work / > > development but bring it up to date every month or so. > > Run unstable if you

[Correction] Re: udev, atapi cdrw drives and cdrecord

2004-08-09 Thread Wayne Topa
Wayne Topa([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > csj([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > On 8. August 2004 at 2:19PM -0400, > > Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Otto Wyss([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > > > > > > I am trying to use cdrecord to

Re: Bogus reply-to

2004-08-09 Thread Jacob S.
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:50:11 +0100 Jim Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Aug 08, 11:22, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > > > # Mail-copies-to: never > > # Mail-followup-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Aren't these the vaunted headers? And yet, I get cc'd, or directly > > emailed, all the time. Eith

Re: Sid is Sid, before or after a release, right?

2004-08-09 Thread William Ballard
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 04:07:19PM +0200, Wim De Smet wrote: > If you get reiserfs corruption every few months your harddisk is > broken or some app is messing it up IMHO. I overclock my PC. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Building two servers

2004-08-09 Thread Hans Wilmer
Hi! Unfortunately, I´m a bit lost on what hardware to use to build two servers. Both servers should run Debian, and I´m trying to find out about compatibility issues before buying any hardware. One of the servers will be used as a fileserver running SAMBA as a PDC. A single CPU system might be

Re: using two vga adapters

2004-08-09 Thread Kent West
Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, I've got an Intel 815e motherboard with On-board VGA. I've also added a Sis AGP card onto it. If the integrated chipset is considered AGP, no; you can only have one active AGP card at a time. Both are supported well by the

Re: Sid is Sid, before or after a release, right?

2004-08-09 Thread John Summerfield
William Ballard wrote: On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 04:07:19PM +0200, Wim De Smet wrote: If you get reiserfs corruption every few months your harddisk is broken or some app is messing it up IMHO. I overclock my PC. Why? That's killing your data. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [

Re: Need help with new 5-button mouse

2004-08-09 Thread Wim De Smet
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 08:57:41 -0500, John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just installed a new 5-button Fellowes mouse; 4-buttons & a scrolling > wheel. I have tried the autops2 setting & the right, left, & wheel(button) > function work but the scrolling function does not. I also tried the f

Re: Building two servers

2004-08-09 Thread John Summerfield
Tyan makes some interesting boards, but I don´t know if they eventually have problems with Debian. How´s your experience with them? --- I´ve been looking for a hardware compatibility list, but didn´t find any decent information yet. Which kind of processors can you recommend, AMD (Opteron?) or

apache aliasing

2004-08-09 Thread Harland Christofferson
i have an apache server w/ serveral aliases. however, i am trying to add a new alias that is confusing me: Alias /oscommerce/ /var/www/oscommerce/ Options ExecCGI Includes FollowSymlinks AddHandler cgi-script .php .cgi .sh .pl DocumentRoot /var/www/oscommerce/catalog when i try to

Re: Sid is Sid, before or after a release, right?

2004-08-09 Thread William Ballard
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 10:19:32PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > Why? That's killing your data. I have backups. It's not O/C'd to an insane degree. I just like to do it. I have a 3.2 O/C to 3.6, 220FSB. Sometimes I forget and leave it at 230FSB, which is stable in Windows but not in Linux

Re: Building two servers

2004-08-09 Thread Jacob S.
On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 16:15:45 +0200 Hans Wilmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi! > > Unfortunately, I´m a bit lost on what hardware to use to build two > servers. Both servers should run Debian, and I´m trying to find out > about compatibility issues before buying any hardware. > > One of th

Re: apache aliasing

2004-08-09 Thread Jacob S.
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 10:23:20 -0400 Harland Christofferson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i have an apache server w/ serveral aliases. however, i am trying > to add a new alias that is confusing me: > > Alias /oscommerce/ /var/www/oscommerce/ > > Options ExecCGI Includes FollowSymlinks > AddHan

Re: apache aliasing

2004-08-09 Thread Harland Christofferson
At Monday, 9 August 2004, "Jacob S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 10:23:20 -0400 >Harland Christofferson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> i have an apache server w/ serveral aliases. however, i am trying >> to add a new alias that is confusing me: >> >> Alias /oscommerce/ /var/w

Re: Is there a *console* screen capture

2004-08-09 Thread Carl Fink
Is it too obvious to suggest "apt-cache search grab"? -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http://www.jabootu.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: apache aliasing

2004-08-09 Thread Harland Christofferson
*snip* >> >>For the directory listing, check your "DirectoryIndex" setting in your >>Apache config file; does it include index.php? > >no, id did not ... added it and restared apache ... still no luck. > >as far as the 500 error: > >Internal Server Error >The server encountered an internal error or

Re: Bogus reply-to

2004-08-09 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 11:22:02PM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > On 2004-08-09, Tim Connors penned: > > > > What I am saying, is all of these discussion lists have differnt > > policies. It's kind of silly expecting people to remember which > > policy belongs to which list, and blasting people

Font Sizes In Fluxbox

2004-08-09 Thread John Lowell
Well, many years later, my first reasonably intelligent look at Debian. I downloaded and burned the businesscard iso last night and the install went flawlessly, at least I think it did. I used aptitude to bring down the x window system and fluxbox post install and have a question about font ren

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-09 Thread Nicolaus Kedegren
* Anders Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-09 12:20] wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brian Nelson wrote: > | On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:21:39AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > |>On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:58:57PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > |> > |>>The d-i team is h

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-09 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 10:53:27AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > Thomas Adam wrote: > > >On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:46:55AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > > > > > > > >>In the past week I've done two GUI installs. Both were easier than d-i. > >> > >> > > > >"easier". > > > > > > > > Eas

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-09 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 03:48:50AM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:43:16PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:49:33PM -0300, Joey Hess wrote: > > > - grub as the boot loader > > > > Not for me -- I use LILO. > > This is the major thing that annoys me. W

Re: XFree vs. xorg

2004-08-09 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello! On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 05:41:39PM +0200, Nicolaus Kedegren wrote: > Why in heavens name did Xfree86 change their license? Was it the > previous license too restrictive? Sponsors needed/wanted the ability to > incorporate proprietary code? > Waste of BW probably, but does anybody know? In

Cups + samba not working without reversing startup order

2004-08-09 Thread Robert S
I just installed the latest stable version of debian 3.0 on our small office network (mainly windows 2000). It's going to function as a remote access, mail and print server. I am pretty new to debian but chose it for its ease of upgrading and reputed stability and reliability. I set up cups and

Re: Re: Is there a *console* screen capture

2004-08-09 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 03:34:53AM -0400, Scott G. Hall wrote: > I am not sure I recall an answer to this question. I too am looking for > a screen capture utility for a Debian-based system. Text captures are I'm jumping late into this thread, so excuse me if I am off-beam, but is it that you wa

Re: Font Sizes In Fluxbox

2004-08-09 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from John Lowell: > Well, many years later, my first reasonably intelligent look at Debian. > I downloaded and burned the businesscard iso last night and the install > went flawlessly, at least I think it did. I used aptitude to bring down > the x window system and fluxbox post install

Adding Debian menu to windows managers

2004-08-09 Thread Scott Thompson
Both KDE and GNOME have menus full of links to all of the software installed on the system, including the Debian menu. When I use any other installed windows manager, i.e. fluxbox, blackbox, enlightenment or xfce4, the menus are all empty. How can I get at least the Debian menu to appear in enlig

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2004-08-09 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 01:50:15AM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: } On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 08:24:34PM +0200, John L Fjellstad wrote: } > Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: } > } > >> > 6. It must have a decent expiry system. } > >> } > >> You don't need a mailclient to have a decent expiry sys

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2004-08-09 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 12:46, Gregory Seidman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 01:50:15AM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: > } On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 08:24:34PM +0200, John L Fjellstad wrote: > } > Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > } > >> > 6. It must have a decent expiry system. > } > >> > } >

Getting op-* to work with 4-bit colour

2004-08-09 Thread Seneca
I'm having problems getting the OPIE packages (open palm packages, not one time password) to work on a system that currently can only do 4-bit colour with its framebuffer. Running opie-login results in: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc# opie-login Can't drive depth 4 failed to run /usr/share/opie-log

exim giving 'group mail not found' error

2004-08-09 Thread Mark Hughes
Hello, I have three boxes all with Apache, PHP, MySQL, and Exim running. Two of the boxes work fine and the php mail function that calls sendmail through exim works fine. One box though gives the error: 2004-08-09 03:32:26 Exim configuration error group mail, referred to in line 213, was not f

Re: Pick up a shell session after ssh timeout

2004-08-09 Thread Will Trillich
On Thu, Jul 08 at 09:50AM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: > Right, it won't work for this time. But if one uses screen > every time they log in, one will always be able to resume, > whether it times out because of ping, whether the phone line > gets cut, whether the client machine reboots but not i

"use screen" to "Pick up a shell session after ssh timeout"

2004-08-09 Thread Will Trillich
On Thu, Jul 08 at 04:15PM +0200, Dennis Stosberg wrote: > Sure, this is not a solution this time. But maybe it is a solution > for the next time: > > $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Welcome to remotehost > $ screen > $ long_task > > When you press C-a C-d now, you detach yourself from your screen > se

Re: Font Sizes In Fluxbox

2004-08-09 Thread John Lowell
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from John Lowell: Well, many years later, my first reasonably intelligent look at Debian. I downloaded and burned the businesscard iso last night and the install went flawlessly, at least I think it did. I used aptitude to bring down the x window syste

tips for using "screen"?

2004-08-09 Thread Will Trillich
On Fri, Jul 09 at 01:44PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > You need an app called "screen". I've only just started > learning but it's way cool. it is, indeed! got any juicy tidbits you've picked up that the rest of us could use? broadcast them here! here's my latest ~/.screenrc # .screenrc ha

colored bash prompt

2004-08-09 Thread Will Trillich
On Tue, Jul 13 at 09:16AM -0500, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:30:18 +0200, Silvan wrote: > >> Also look into the tput program. You tell it what you want (bold, > >> green, etc.) and it outputs appropriate magic for your current > >> terminal. great idea -- i'll have to snoop ar

Re: Font Sizes In Fluxbox

2004-08-09 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from John Lowell: > s. keeling wrote: > > >Incoming from John Lowell: > > > >>Well, many years later, my first reasonably intelligent look at Debian. > >>I downloaded and burned the businesscard iso last night and the install > >>went flawlessly, at least I think it did. I used aptitude

Emacs, XEmacs and Qt vs. compose

2004-08-09 Thread Torsten Marek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, I cannot use the compose key mechanism with emacs, xemacs and all qt based programs when I use de_DE.UTF-8 as my locale. If I hit compose key, key presses are swallowed as expected, but the composed symbols are not exported. However, gtk2 app

Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

2004-08-09 Thread Will Trillich
On Fri, Jul 16 at 04:46PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 03:58:41PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > > command 2>&1 | less > > > > dude! i've been trying to do that for months. tahnks! > > > > as an aside, did /p in DOS redirect stderr, too? it's been > > so long ... >

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2004-08-09 Thread Brian Nelson
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 12:46:27PM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 01:50:15AM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: > } On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 08:24:34PM +0200, John L Fjellstad wrote: > } > Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > } > > } > >> > 6. It must have a decent expiry sys

Re: Bash equivalent to DOS /p

2004-08-09 Thread Will Trillich
On Fri, Jul 16 at 10:28PM +0800, Duggan wrote: > Rus Foster wrote: > > >On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Duggan wrote: > >>I know that this is a really n00bish question, but I have to > >>ask. What is the command that limits output from a command > >>to just a page at a time, like the /p command in DOS? > >

sound settings Sarge - KDE

2004-08-09 Thread michael . sherman
Thanks for help with my sound Matt. I got my sound working, however every time I log in onto KDE, I have to adjust the volume. Why would that be? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: sound settings Sarge - KDE

2004-08-09 Thread matt zagrabelny
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 09:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks for help with my sound Matt. > > I got my sound working, however every time I log in onto KDE, I have to > adjust the volume. Why would that be? > there is a program called alsactl (on my machine it is in /usr/sbin/, so it is not in

Re: Font Sizes In Fluxbox

2004-08-09 Thread John Lowell
s. keeling wrote: > > Your problem then is with the style definition. In my ~/.fluxbox dir, > I have a ~/.fluxbox/styles, and that's where I copied in my preferred > style (TDF). In styles/TDF, it mentions: > > toolbar.font: lucidasans-10 > menu.title.Font:lucida

Re: sound settings Sarge - KDE

2004-08-09 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 01:49:22PM -0500, matt zagrabelny wrote: > there is a program called alsactl (on my machine it is in /usr/sbin/, so > it is not in my PATH, but everyone does have execute privileges ??) It's run by root for a good reason. > but you could do a "alsactl store" on logout and

Progeny

2004-08-09 Thread michael . sherman
Is anyone here using Progeny? If yes how does it compare to Sarge. I know the installer is easy. How's the usability out of the box? Sarge is pretty nice and fast but it takes a while to set it up (for me at least). Will it be free (money-wise)? What kernel(s) will it include? Mike -- To UNSUB

Adding new hardware to existing system

2004-08-09 Thread David . Grudek
I am new to debian and looking for some help. I have been practicing with debian installs also adding new hardware to existing systems. I tried adding a new nic and a harddrive to a system. I could not get either to work. When I take the beta 4 sarge install disk and run the install it dete

Re: sound settings Sarge - KDE

2004-08-09 Thread matt zagrabelny
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 13:54, Thomas Adam wrote: > On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 01:49:22PM -0500, matt zagrabelny wrote: > > there is a program called alsactl (on my machine it is in /usr/sbin/, so > > it is not in my PATH, but everyone does have execute privileges ??) > > It's run by root for a good re

Re: Adding new hardware to existing system

2004-08-09 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 10:43:35AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > be detected. I used a fedora system and it detected it just fine. When i > installed the hard drive I did a fdisk /dev/hdc and it did not work said > no device Any help would be appreciated. That's because everything was wr

Re: Font Sizes In Fluxbox

2004-08-09 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from John Lowell: > s. keeling wrote: > > > > Your problem then is with the style definition. In my ~/.fluxbox dir, > > I have a ~/.fluxbox/styles, and that's where I copied in my preferred > > style (TDF). In styles/TDF, it mentions: > > > > toolbar.font: lucidasans-10

Re: Bogus reply-to

2004-08-09 Thread John Summerfield
Brian Nelson wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 11:22:02PM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: On 2004-08-09, Tim Connors penned: What I am saying, is all of these discussion lists have differnt policies. It's kind of silly expecting people to remember which policy belongs to which list, and blast

Re: Loading kernel modules at startup

2004-08-09 Thread Otto Wyss
> Ooh! modconf! It wasn't installed (how would I know?). > After each install of a Debian system I always install "modconf", "vim" and "fbset" since I can't believe any sensible system is usable without them. Especially modconf is a must. Most of the time I add "most" to get rid of "more" and "les

"GOOD NEWS" 互動雜誌 issue 013

2004-08-09 Thread peter
"GOOD NEWS" Online Magazines issue 013 『集合你我專長,凝聚互動力量』 看後,請繼續轉寄! ( 請按 F11 轉至全畫面 ) http://wwc.debian-user+lists.debian.org.magazine.issue013.porkking.hopto.org:13792/main.php

Re: Bogus reply-to

2004-08-09 Thread Brian Nelson
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 03:29:55AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > Brian Nelson wrote: > > >On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 11:22:02PM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > > > >># Mail-copies-to: never > >># Mail-followup-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>Aren't these the vaunted headers? And yet, I get cc'd

Re: Progeny

2004-08-09 Thread John Summerfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone here using Progeny? If yes how does it compare to Sarge. I know the installer is easy. How's the usability out of the box? Sarge is pretty nice and fast but it takes a while to set it up (for me at least). Will it be free (money-wise)? What kernel(s) will it inclu

Re: Bogus reply-to

2004-08-09 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-08-09, Jim Bailey penned: > > I use mutt, if I press 'r' to reply I get offered the following > address > > Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([yes]/no): > > If I refuse I get offered your bounce address, neither of which are > good options. What do you mean by my bounce address? If you mean the

Re: Loading kernel modules at startup

2004-08-09 Thread george roman
Otto Wyss wrote: Ooh! modconf! It wasn't installed (how would I know?). After each install of a Debian system I always install "modconf", "vim" and "fbset" since I can't believe any sensible system is usable without them. Especially modconf is a must. Most of the time I add "most" to get rid o

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