Re: how to get 2.4.18 device driver 3c59x

2003-10-22 Thread Robert William Hutton
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 08:09:40AM +0200, Tom Eugelink wrote: > I was running kernel 2.2 and I used dselect to download 2.4.18 (binary). > That came with drivers for pcmcia, but nothing else, especially not for > my networkcards, requiring the 3c59x driver. You'll probably need to install the co

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:39:04 -0700, Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031021 15:32]: > > Have we figured out who owns the Moon yet? > Narrator: By 1964, experts say man will have established twelve >colonies on the m

Re: Best way to combine file systems?

2003-10-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:42:08PM -0700, Ross Boylan said > Do people agree that mount --rbind is generally preferable? (I think > this is a well known system administration issue, but googling didn't > turn up much). > > Second, if I do that, is it possible to set up these mounts via fstab? Ye

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

2003-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:04:03 -0700, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:57:27PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > I like the way you think man! > Highly consistent... ..excellent. Act on it. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards f

Re: how do i read from memory stick, fire wire?

2003-10-22 Thread LeVA
TR írta: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:24:53 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joachim Fahnenmueller) wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 06:04:43PM -0400, TR wrote: I want to be able to access the pics and short movies in my memory stick, but I can't figure out how to do it. After googling, I found some recommendati

Re: Best way to combine file systems?

2003-10-22 Thread Ross Boylan
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 05:30:39PM +1000, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:42:08PM -0700, Ross Boylan said > > Do people agree that mount --rbind is generally preferable? (I think > > this is a well known system administration issue, but googling didn't > > turn up much). > > > > Seco

apt-proxy still maintained?

2003-10-22 Thread Thomas Gebhardt
Hi, I frequently encounter problems with streaming debs from apt-proxy, (both stable and testing/unstable) getting error messages like MD5Sum mismatch or 404 File does not exist on any server A second download is ok. The bug reports indicate that this is a common problem and the maintainer Chr

booting from a usb mass storage zip drive

2003-10-22 Thread Rob Benton
I need some extra eyes and advice for this problem I'm having. I've got a usb 250 zip drive that I've installed debian on. I've been using an initrd ramdisk to boot from that uses kernel 2.4.20. The boot process goes fine. The problem is, there are 2 strange processes that continue after boot.

Re: Best way to combine file systems?

2003-10-22 Thread Toens Bueker
Ross Boylan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My partitions are filling up and I need to start > juggling parts of my filesystem. Although some of one > disk is under a volume manager (LVM via EVMS), I don't > want to fiddle with it. Mostly this is because I don't > want to extend the container to in

Re: Exim4 won't send mail - what does this error message mean?

2003-10-22 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 21 Oct 2003, David Jardine wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 02:55:13PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > I'm getting serious trouble with exim4. > > > > A lot of mail, incoming and outgoing, just sits in /var/log/exim4/input > > indefinitely. This includes even messages I email to myself. > > >

Somewhat ON-TOPIC (was Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS))

2003-10-22 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:17:07PM -0500, James W. Thompson, II wrote: > Boy has this thread gone out into left/right field, however you want > to term it, and gotten off topic. Why do we allow ourselves to be > distracted and flame back and forth, completely ignoring why this list > exists, we'

Re: cdrecord problem recording audio CD

2003-10-22 Thread Rohan Nicholls
At Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:42:07 +0200, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 06:10:25AM +0800, csj wrote: > > cdrecord -dao speed=8 dev=0,0,0 *.wav > > > > Can someone tell me what this -dao option does? I have never used it, > and IIRC older versions of cdrecord didn't have it.

RPC: Program not Registered

2003-10-22 Thread Richard Lyons
Nice to be back with a broadband connexion and to be able to re-subscribe to my favourite list (even if only for a few weeks). Not so nice to try to get at the work I've been doing mentime on my laptop by an nfs mount and to get: RPC: Program not Registered Being more or less a dork about net

A newbie's confusion about BS

2003-10-22 Thread Thomas Pomber
Okay, I'm out. I got too many weirdos emailing me about my dick. Who are these people? Leave me alone! Besides, everybody's picking on the Americans, and that's way too cliche. What are you, jealous? I just feel sorry for them, because they're starting to believe their own BS and are allowing

Apache2 and.... php

2003-10-22 Thread Ron Rademaker
Hello, I guess this discussion has come along quite a few times already :) But I want to get it to work, I only want to use it! I've had it running fine for over a year on a RH server, but I just want to use debian. I'm running testing but found some php 4.3.3 packages that I installed... Why are

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:25:03PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I see it just fine, but then I am sighted. I don't know how blind > Debians access the list, but they do. I suppose they have something > that does text to voice, or text to braille. Whatever it is, I doubt > that it can handle figlet

Re: RPC: Program not Registered

2003-10-22 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 11:07:55AM +0200, Richard Lyons wrote: > Nice to be back with a broadband connexion and to be able to re-subscribe to > my favourite list (even if only for a few weeks). Not so nice to try to get > at the work I've been doing mentime on my laptop by an nfs mount and to ge

Re: A newbie's confusion about BS

2003-10-22 Thread klaus imgrund
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:07, Thomas Pomber wrote: > Okay, I'm out. I got too many weirdos emailing me > about my dick. Who are these people? Leave me alone! > Now - that would neither be my problem nor debian's problem. BTW - what are you looking for from p2p? > > Anybody know how to co

Re: Is testing somewhat stable again>

2003-10-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 12:27:36AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I heard that sarge was going through convulsions because changes > in the C implementation, were making its packages incompatible. That was ages ago, and it was C++, not C. The C++ transition is gradual and isn't really something

Re: apt-proxy still maintained?

2003-10-22 Thread Chris Halls
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 10:00, Thomas Gebhardt wrote: > I have not noticed any release of the python apt-proxy v2 yet. > Apart from the mentioned flaw I'm very satisfied with apt-proxy > which helps to save a lot of bandwith. So I'd rather stay with > apt-proxy if I would have the hope that the probl

Re: RPC: Program not Registered

2003-10-22 Thread Clive Menzies
On (22/10/03 04:20), Alex Malinovich wrote: > Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 04:20:24 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RPC: Program not Registered > From: Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 11:07:55AM +0200, Richard Lyons wrote: > > Nice to be back with a broadband

How to find out where memory leaks to

2003-10-22 Thread Thomas De Groote
Hey, I am running a quite standard Debian woody setup with the kernel 2.4.18 that comes from the packages. The 2 HDs are in a RAID0, formatted as ext3, with quota installed. Problem is that for some reason after about 1 week the 1 Gb of RAM is completely filled and when looking in top or ps I

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Re: Kernel panic error

2003-10-22 Thread Anim Asante
> -Original Message- > From: Bill Marcum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 22 October 2003 07:01 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Kernel panic error > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 07:27:29AM +0100, Anim > Asante wrote: > > I have got a grub menu.lst file with a section of > t

Re: software download

2003-10-22 Thread J. Javier Maestro
On Oct Tue 21 2003 11:08, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On Tuesday, Oct 21, 2003, at 00:36 America/New_York, J. Javier Maestro > wrote: > > >On Oct Mon 20 2003 02:01, SpawnPPC wrote: > >>Hi all, > >> > >>I'm Emanuele, from Italy. > >> > >>Where I can found and download with apt-get this sof

install over bootp

2003-10-22 Thread kmark
Hi Debianista, I've come across a challange. Install on a laptop with no floppy, no cdrom, an ethernet port and bootp/dhcp. Does anyone know an links to docs on this kind of install? TIA -Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAI

Re: How to find out where memory leaks to

2003-10-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 12:03:22PM +0200, Thomas De Groote said > Hey, > > I am running a quite standard Debian woody setup with the kernel 2.4.18 > that comes from the packages. The 2 HDs are in a RAID0, formatted as > ext3, with quota installed. Problem is that for some reason after about > 1

Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

2003-10-22 Thread Joachim Fahnenmueller
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:02:10PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > > > On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote: > > > Hi Rolf, > > > > maybe load ide-scsi *before* sr_mod ? > > if a module needed to be loaded in the right order, > it'd complain about missing symbols not yet defined > when i

Re: How to find out where memory leaks to

2003-10-22 Thread Thomas De Groote
On the box I was talking about: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:901440 441232 460208 0 90296 247512 -/+ buffers/cache: 103424 798016 Swap: 481928 0 481928 [EMAIL PR

Re: How to find out where memory leaks to

2003-10-22 Thread Rob Weir
[Please don't top post! It makes your message harder to read, especially in long threads.] On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 01:23:51PM +0200, Thomas De Groote said > On the box I was talking about: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free > total used free sharedbuffers > cached >

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Re: Using apt-get/dselect to download from a un-official repository.

2003-10-22 Thread Chris Anderson
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 17:40, Joseph Jones wrote: > I'd like to download xfree86 4.3.0 from this repository: > http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/ > > I found it whilst Googling round for 4.3.0 for Debian, it was mentioned > in a mailing list archive. Could anyone tell me how I w

NPTL (was: NGPT for/in Debian?)

2003-10-22 Thread W. Borgert
Hi, thanks for the information on NPTL and NGPT. Are the packages already available to test it? I'm not afraid of crashing my machine, but... Cheers, WB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

2003-10-22 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 12:05, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote: > Good idea. Not only look for error messages but also for _success_ > messages, at some point it should say that it found the device. Now, what if it does report success but still doesn't work: $ cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached device

debian

2003-10-22 Thread David Lorenzo
Hello, I am trying to install debian from a cd i got from a magazine but i am not very good at linux so i dont know if it is me who is not installing it properly. The problem is that i get to install it and when i choose what to install with tasksel i cannot pick any X-Window-System from the

Re: Help with VIA EPIA-CL mini-ITX with two onboard ethernet ports

2003-10-22 Thread Peter Samek
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:57:55PM +0100, Chris Evans wrote: > Ho hum, do hope I haven't got myself ahead of Debian hardware > compatibility. > [...] > However, when I get to the installation of network drivers in the > Debian installation sequence, I select the via-rhine drivers and > offer no

Re: mouse

2003-10-22 Thread Kent West
Stephen Cormier wrote: You would be interested in this link then on using the numeric keypad as your mouse in X11. http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/movecursor.html That is _so_ cool! A little nugget of gold like this every so often sure makes Debian/GNU/Linux/X11 seem awesome! -- Kent

Re: NPTL (was: NGPT for/in Debian?)

2003-10-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 02:15:39PM +0200, W. Borgert wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for the information on NPTL and NGPT. Are the > packages already available to test it? I'm not afraid > of crashing my machine, but... They're in experimental; see a recent post by Daniel Jacobowitz to debian-devel and

Re: gdm/X broken by recent update

2003-10-22 Thread Kent West
Robert William Hutton wrote: Hi, Last night's update in unstable has killed my xserver. I'd normally be able to work out what's going on, but nothing is showing up in my logs. The symptoms of the problem are also different than the usual ones: - The X server starts, I get the grey background, an

debian unstable font problem

2003-10-22 Thread Renai
hi all, I have a problem with debian unstable. My previous installation (last upgraded around a month ago) was displaying my copied windows fonts fine. However when I re-installed unstable, using the same procedure for fonts, there are problems. Certain applications will use my truetype fonts

Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

2003-10-22 Thread Andrew Perrin
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Magnus von Koeller wrote: > On Wednesday 22 October 2003 12:05, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote: > > Good idea. Not only look for error messages but also for _success_ > > messages, at some point it should say that it found the device. > > Now, what if it does report success but s

Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

2003-10-22 Thread Lukas Ruf
I have been experiencing the same problems on 2.4.22: > Andrew Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-22 15:21]: > > > > > $ mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom > > mount: /dev/scd0 is not a valid block device > > What if you use /dev/sda ? > uccellina:~# mount -t iso9660 /dev/sda /mnt mount: /dev/sda is not a

Re: mouse

2003-10-22 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Kent West wrote: Stephen Cormier wrote: You would be interested in this link then on using the numeric keypad as your mouse in X11. http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/movecursor.html That is _so_ cool! A little nugget of gold like this every so often sure makes Debian/GNU/Linux/X11 seem aw

gnome-terminal corupting utmp

2003-10-22 Thread David Purton
system - testing, + bits of gnome2 from unstable. I log in using gdm and have gnome-terminal start automatically and then restart if it's closed (from gnome-session). I've noticed that when I start another gnome-terminal, either from command line or gnome2 menus and the

[OT] Grammer (WAS: Re: allowing a "normal" user to work efficiently)

2003-10-22 Thread Roberto Sanchez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MS windows is 'friendly' to users and virii and cracker alike out of the box. Us *nix folks like to keep our data a bit safer. Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form of virus is viruses. I know that as GNU/Linux users this viruses are something

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-22 Thread Johan Kullstam
Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 21 Oct 2003 08:00:40 -0400, > Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > I am using gnus/emacs. It treats mail like news. This way, I get > > mail lists each in their own group and the discussions are thread

Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

2003-10-22 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 14:54, Andrew Perrin wrote: > > $ mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom > > mount: /dev/scd0 is not a valid block device > > What if you use /dev/sda ? $ mount /dev/sda /cdrom mount: /dev/sda is not a valid block device -- --- Magnus von Koeller --- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] add

Re: [Waaaaaay OT] Grammer

2003-10-22 Thread Nicos Gollan
It's "grammar". On Wednesday 22 October 2003 15:45, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form of > virus is viruses. Last thing I heard was that the original word had no plural at all, so as I see it we're all free to write what we want. "Little

Re: Verify that spamc is using Bayesian?

2003-10-22 Thread Benedict Verheyen
I think you can see if spamassassin is doing a system wide bayes check by looking at the file bayes_msgcount. In my /etc/spamassassin/local.cf i specified /var/mail/.spamassassin/bayes as the bayes database. I also specified use_bayes 1 and auto_learn 1 and whenever i receive emails the size of t

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-22 Thread Allan Wind
On 2003-10-22T09:29:24-0400, Johan Kullstam wrote: > I think it may best for someone who uses a fast starting non-emacs > editor, e.g., vi. Emacs has a client/server feature, so you get quick start-up of additional clients once you have the server running. Using vim myself these days. /Allan --

Re: Advanced printing... continued

2003-10-22 Thread Wayne Topa
Christian Schnobrich([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Hello, > > after some try-and-error I eventually got printing to work; cups, > foomatic and xpp now work hand-in-hand. > > One issue left: my paper size is A4, but xpp won't let me select > anything other than US Letter. Or rathe

Re: mouse

2003-10-22 Thread Don Hayward
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Kent West wrote: > > Stephen Cormier wrote: > > > >> You would be interested in this link then on using the numeric keypad > >> as your mouse in X11. > >> > >> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/movecursor.html Is there a way to control cursor movement

Re: More on spam

2003-10-22 Thread Shane Hickey
> > ..Swen is no different than 9/11. So, next time someone points a gun > > your way, you do not want the police doing _anything_ about it? I mean, seriously, I don't like to flame ANYONE, but that has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my entire life. Matter of fact, I feel dumbe

Re: [Waaaaaay OT] Grammer

2003-10-22 Thread Tom
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 03:55:19PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote: > It's "grammar". > > On Wednesday 22 October 2003 15:45, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form of > > virus is viruses. > > Last thing I heard was that the original word had no p

Re: [OT] Grammer (WAS: Re: allowing a "normal" user to work efficiently)

2003-10-22 Thread David Jardine
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:45:09AM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >MS windows is 'friendly' to users and virii and cracker alike out of the > >box. Us *nix folks like to keep our data a bit safer. > > > > Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural

Where to announce?

2003-10-22 Thread smurfd
Hey! I was wondering, if I had made a program, designed for Debian, and wanted others to try it out, and give me their opinion/suggestions etc.. Would this list be a good place, or perhaps some of the devel lists? /smurfd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsu

Re: gdm/X broken by recent update

2003-10-22 Thread Robert William Hutton
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 07:33:22AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > Robert William Hutton wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >Last night's update in unstable has killed my xserver. I'd normally be > >able to work out what's going on, but nothing is showing up in my logs. > >The symptoms of the problem are also diffe

Re: Using apt-get/dselect to download from a un-official repository.

2003-10-22 Thread Joseph Jones
Nick Hastings wrote: Hi, * Joseph Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031022 10:31]: I'd like to download xfree86 4.3.0 from this repository: http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/ I found it whilst Googling round for 4.3.0 for Debian, it was mentioned in a mailing list archive. Could

Re: [Waaaaaay OT] Grammar

2003-10-22 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Nicos Gollan wrote: It's "grammar". On Wednesday 22 October 2003 15:45, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form of virus is viruses. Last thing I heard was that the original word had no plural at all, so as I see it we're all free to write what

Re: Can Anyone tell me what this is?

2003-10-22 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 01:12:57AM -0500, John Foster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > The message below is the result of a posting to debian user earlier today. > Any idea what /why I recieved it. BTW if it get returned I will assume I > have been unsubscribed fro the mailing list. >

Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

2003-10-22 Thread Richard Kimber
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:36:21 +0200 Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > $ mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom > > > mount: /dev/scd0 is not a valid block device This may not be the answer, but I find that if I do cdrecord -scanbus when this happens, and then try the mount, it works. Don't ask me w

Re: More on spam

2003-10-22 Thread Tom
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:09:25AM -0500, Shane Hickey wrote: > Let's try to keep a little perspective here. SPAM sucks, but it's not > lethal (thank God!). > -Shane yet it's becoming a distinction without a difference -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

2003-10-22 Thread Richard Kimber
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:36:21 +0200 Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been experiencing the same problems on 2.4.22: Why do you have this set like this? Reply-To: LIST-Reply <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It defeats Sylpheed's automatic reply-to-list facility. - Richard. -- Richard Kimber htt

Re: [Waaaaaay OT] Grammer

2003-10-22 Thread Joerg Johannes
Am Mi, den 22.10.2003 schrieb Nicos Gollan um 15:55: > It's "grammar". > > On Wednesday 22 October 2003 15:45, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form of > > virus is viruses. > > Last thing I heard was that the original word had no plural at

same-package upgrades

2003-10-22 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Greetings, I made an own apt repository. It works OK, but each package installed from there gets replaced by itself whenever I run apt-get upgrade. How can I find out why? Debian Woody i386 APT::Default-Release "stable"; APT::Cache-Limit 12582912; APT::Get::Show-Upgraded 1; Debug::pkgProblemRe

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

2003-10-22 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:26:53PM -0400, Thomas Pomber wrote: > I was talking to this electrician who just relocated here to Canada > from Russia, and I was blown away when he told me that they didn't > brainwash their people in The Commie Days half as much as the US does > today. Yeah right, I s

Re: Is testing somewhat stable again>

2003-10-22 Thread heshi
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:11:39AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 12:27:36AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I heard that sarge was going through convulsions because changes > > in the C implementation, were making its packages incompatible. > > That was ages ago, and it

Re: allowing a "normal" user to work efficiently

2003-10-22 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 03:40:48PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote: > On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 12:03, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > [...] > > For example imagine you make "cat" suid... > > > > Then someone can do: > > cat /bin/rm /bin/cat > > cat -rf / > > This would just output both /bin/rm and /bin/cat to your

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2003 #3161

2003-10-22 Thread Eric Walstad
On Sunday 19 October 2003 14:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Eric Walstad wrote: [...] > >I'm not really interested in installing Knoppix, just how to get > > similar application versions with a Debian installation. > > Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and duplicate your stable lines (except > for the se

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 02:31, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:39:04 -0700, > Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > * Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031021 15:32]: > > > Have we figured out who owns the Moon yet? > > > Narrator: By 1964, experts sa

Re: Re: Gnome, Nautilus, KDE anomalies

2003-10-22 Thread G D Roux
I've experienced pretty much the same symptoms on a fresh SuSE 8.2 installation. If you've had any insights as to what is going on I'd be much obliged for any advice. In my case, I'd just managed to install my winmodem properly, and was trying out browsers last night (newbie convert from Win

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-22 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:04:18AM -0400, Allan Wind wrote: > On 2003-10-22T09:29:24-0400, Johan Kullstam wrote: > > I think it may best for someone who uses a fast starting non-emacs > > editor, e.g., vi. > > Emacs has a client/server feature, so you get quick start-up of > additional clients onc

Re: mouse

2003-10-22 Thread Kent West
Don Hayward wrote: Is there a way to control cursor movement speed [when using the cursor keys as a mouse control by pressing Shift-Numlock in X11]? This is lovely, but seems very slow. I didn't find anything on this page about it. I don't know if it'll have any effect, but you might try play

Re: scsi emulation: atapi reset irq timeout and other nasties...

2003-10-22 Thread Garrett Patrick McLean
if anybody has any clue or ANY suggestion i haven't tried yet i'd gladly take itleft my computer off over night to be sure it wasn't overheating...still no luck. i've also tried unloading the ide-cd module entirelystill the same problem HELP thanks garrett > hi, > > i've been try

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

2003-10-22 Thread Tom
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:47:41AM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:26:53PM -0400, Thomas Pomber wrote: > > I was talking to this electrician who just relocated here to Canada > > from Russia, and I was blown away when he told me that they didn't > > brainwash their people

exim4-daemon-heavy and exiscan virus/spam filtering

2003-10-22 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Hi, i currently have a working exim4 setup along the lines of http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/config_docs/exim-spamassassin/node10.html. Exim 4 gets the mail, then hands it over to spamassassin and clamav and finally ends up delivering it to procmail which sorts all the business. Now, i'm looking

Re: [Waaaaaay OT] Grammer

2003-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:55:19 +0200, Nicos Gollan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It's "grammar". > > On Wednesday 22 October 2003 15:45, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form > > of virus is viruses. > > Last t

Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

2003-10-22 Thread Lukas Ruf
> Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-22 17:00]: > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:36:21 +0200 > Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > $ mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom > > > > mount: /dev/scd0 is not a valid block device > > This may not be the answer, but I find that if I do > cdrecor

apache/php4 bug or not?

2003-10-22 Thread Edwin Lau
Hi everyone, I have recently installed apache/php4 and I followed the 4 steps given in /usr/share/doc/php4/README.Debian.gz to setup php4_module. I restart the service. I had no luck. I tried a couple of times. So I trial and error and found that if I do modules-config apache enable m

Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

2003-10-22 Thread Lukas Ruf
Richard, > Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-22 17:10]: > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:36:21 +0200 > Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have been experiencing the same problems on 2.4.22: > > Why do you have this set like this? > > Reply-To: LIST-Reply <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >

Re: [OT] Grammar (WAS: Re: allowing a "normal" user to work efficiently)

2003-10-22 Thread Roberto Sanchez
David Jardine wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:45:09AM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MS windows is 'friendly' to users and virii and cracker alike out of the box. Us *nix folks like to keep our data a bit safer. Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plu

[OT] Cracked website at sf.net

2003-10-22 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Can someone here who has a sourceforge account please let the admins know that the Crystalspace Wiki site has been cracked. http://crystal.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php I happened across it a couple of nights ago, and I emailed the sourceforge admins (the main crystalspace page is not respondi

Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

2003-10-22 Thread Lukas Ruf
> Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-22 17:34]: > > > Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-22 17:00]: > > > > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:36:21 +0200 > > Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > $ mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom > > > > > mount: /dev/scd0 is not a valid block

Re: More on spam

2003-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:58:16 -0400, Bill Marcum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 06:56:59AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > ..Swen is no different than 9/11. So, next time someone points a > > gun your way, you do not want the police doing

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-22 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Bijan Soleymani wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:04:18AM -0400, Allan Wind wrote: On 2003-10-22T09:29:24-0400, Johan Kullstam wrote: I think it may best for someone who uses a fast starting non-emacs editor, e.g., vi. Emacs has a client/server feature, so you get quick start-up of additional cli

Re: Search feature in PDF files

2003-10-22 Thread Joachim Fahnenmueller
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:27:14PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Are there any Free Software PDF viewers that have the ability to search > and copy/paste text and graphics? I ask because I find that sometimes > I have to use acroread (non-free, of course) becuase I have a large PDF > file and I

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-22 Thread Paul E Condon
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:04:14PM -0400, ScruLoose wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:13:11PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:32:57PM -0700, Steve C. Lamb wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:17:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > > Why would anybody read an inhe

Re: "spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7."

2003-10-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Marc Wilson wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > That isn't right either. IRQ7 is not the lowest priority interrupt > > How do you figure that IRQ7 isn't the lowest priority interrupt? > > IRQ0timer tick > IRQ1keyboard > IRQ2chained to IRQ9 > | IRQ8RTC > |__IRQ9chained t

Re: cdrom not working

2003-10-22 Thread Kent West
CC'ing to the list, for archival purposes. Kent West wrote: Will the machine boot off some other CD? I'm not sure if your "Yes" below refers to this question, the next question, or both. Does it even look like it's trying to boot off the CD (e.g. BIOS settings determining boot orde

Re: Where to announce?

2003-10-22 Thread Roberto Sanchez
smurfd wrote: Hey! I was wondering, if I had made a program, designed for Debian, and wanted others to try it out, and give me their opinion/suggestions etc.. Would this list be a good place, or perhaps some of the devel lists? /smurfd Depending on what the program is, I'd be willing to try it

Galeon doesn't work correctly with gnome 2.4

2003-10-22 Thread Dave Carrigan
Up until I upgraded to gnome 2.4, anytime I invoked galeon, it would correctly find itself and not try to start a new instance. Now, galeon no longer does this consistently. If I launch galeon from an interactive bash shell, then anything that launches galeon from an interactive bash shell will fi

Re: Where to announce?

2003-10-22 Thread John Foster
smurfd wrote: Hey! I was wondering, if I had made a program, designed for Debian, and wanted others to try it out, and give me their opinion/suggestions etc.. Would this list be a good place, or perhaps some of the devel lists? /smurfd I have seen a number of these type of questions over t

Re: Search feature in PDF files

2003-10-22 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:27:14PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Are there any Free Software PDF viewers that have the ability to search and copy/paste text and graphics? I ask because I find that sometimes I have to use acroread (non-free, of course) becuase I have a

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:08:42 -0500, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 02:31, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:39:04 -0700, > > Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > * Tom (

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-22 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:04:18AM -0400, Allan Wind wrote: > On 2003-10-22T09:29:24-0400, Johan Kullstam wrote: > > I think it may best for someone who uses a fast starting non-emacs > > editor, e.g., vi. > > Emacs has a client/server feature, so you get quick start-up of > additional clients onc

Re: Where to announce?

2003-10-22 Thread TR
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:29:25 +0200 smurfd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey! > > I was wondering, if I had made a program, designed for Debian, and > wanted others to try it out, and give me their opinion/suggestions > etc.. > > Would this list be a good place, or perhaps some of the devel lists?

Re: More on spam

2003-10-22 Thread klaus imgrund
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 12:39, Tom wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:09:25AM -0500, Shane Hickey wrote: > > Let's try to keep a little perspective here. SPAM sucks, but it's not > > lethal (thank God!). > > -Shane On Wednesday 22 October 2003 12:39, Tom wrote: > yet > > it's becoming a dis

Re: scsi emulation: atapi reset irq timeout and other nasties...

2003-10-22 Thread Nick Lidakis
Garrett P. McLean wrote: hi, i've been trying to get scsi emulation working. i've compiled and installed my own custom kernel the debian way and i enabled the following as modules: ide-cd, scsi_mod, sr_mod, sg, and ide-scsi. i've also added a file called ide-cd to /etc/modutils with the follow

Re: Apache2 and.... php

2003-10-22 Thread John Foster
Ron Rademaker wrote: Hello, I guess this discussion has come along quite a few times already :) But I want to get it to work, I only want to use it! I've had it running fine for over a year on a RH server, but I just want to use debian. I'm running testing but found some php 4.3.3 packages that I

Re: update in sid has killed gnome-terminal

2003-10-22 Thread TR
> > I originally assumed you were the OP, but skimming the archives, it > > appears that you are not. I am th OP > > The original poster posted a statement, not a question. The > > statement was, "I just did an upgrade in a machine running sid and > > after that can't star a gnome terminal anym

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