Re: mailing list

2003-10-03 Thread Lukas Ruf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-02 23:06]: > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:47:08PM +0100, Richard Kimber wrote: > | Has this mailing list had problems in the last couple of days? > | > | Yesterday I found I was not receiving any messages. T

Re: Debian on cobalt RaQ2

2003-10-03 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 01:47:54PM -0500, Christopher L. Everett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Has it been done? > > I see info on putting NetBSD onto a RaQ2 but not much on Debian Linux. I've messed (many moons ago) with the RaQ, Qube, and Netwinder. All were at one point non-x86 hardware. I'm

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-03 Thread Michael C.
In linux.debian.user, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kjetil writes: > > But you run the risk of making a lot of unpriviliged power users very > > angry if you do that. By forcing people to work around noexec, you make it easier to run something they shouldn't. IIUC, by working around t

OOo

2003-10-03 Thread Oki DZ
Hi, I just upgraded the OpenOffice into 1.1.rc3; it behaves a bit strangely, especially when the pull-down menus get pressed. They occasionally flipped up by themselves, and then the mouse pointer wouldn't respond. To make it work, you have to press enter. Oki -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: Statically linked bash

2003-10-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 06:41:53AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: > I'd like to have bash that runs by itself; is there any such shell > somewhere in the Internet that I can download? There's a bash-static package in testing and unstable. Beware, though, that bash uses NSS (name service switch) functions f

Re: NTP wont work as box is at 1980.

2003-10-03 Thread Yann Droneaud
pigeon wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:28:12PM +0100, Ben Edwards wrote: > >>>On my laptop, I've added the -g switch to ntpd's startup, so the first >>>time it syncs, it forcibly resets to the NTP time if that's out of >>>bounds. Doing this involved editing /etc/init.d/ntp-simple and adding

Re: Updating Woody-Prerelease to Woody

2003-10-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:15:54AM +0200, Johann-Hartwig Hauschild wrote: > Zitat von Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:29:08PM +0200, Johann Hartwig Hauschild wrote: > > > Then I noticed, that the gcc I use apparently is prerelease, but that > > > I can fix by hand.

Re: gv segfaulting

2003-10-03 Thread Oki DZ
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:09:29AM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > That version really needs to be >= 1.5+E-2. This issue has been > recorded in the BTS multiple times. And it didn't work; so, is it the way by the packagers to lure users out of gv? If yes, wel

Re: seeking mailing list from SQL

2003-10-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Sacha Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.03.0745 +0200]: > Hmm. What's the bigger problem? Is it load-balancing the outgoing > mail? I remember coming across load-balancing suggestions in the > postfix documentation. That might be a way of dealing with the > situation: have the mailing l

Re: Mailing list question

2003-10-03 Thread Shaun ONeil
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 19:59, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > I want to setup a real basic mailing list for the users in my lab. > There are only about 10 of us, so I would like to do something > /etc/aliases. Is this possible? Do all the users need to have local > accounts where the mail gets deliver

Re: Executing a Script every hour

2003-10-03 Thread Christof Hurschler
Thank god it's not all that obvious (as this thread implies), because when I first started to look at the cron and andcron man pages, I didn't really know where to start. I've set up a crontab entry in /etc/cron.d for my script, which I guess it the right way to go. I didn't use Kcron, which I

Re: Executing a Script every hour

2003-10-03 Thread Erik Steffl
Pigeon wrote: On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:55:30PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 12:15:19PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: anacron. cron and anacron solve similar problems but with a different approach based on different requirements. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Spamassassin thinking i'm a spammer

2003-10-03 Thread Mark Maas
antined as:   /var/lib/amavis/virusmails/spam-9a81e2098af61b2e4a1ce70af22a5fc8-20031003-103400-27759-07.gz Why? Well i've got a exim forward filter file, and when an email comes in with SPAM in the subject it gets send to spamcop for reporting. That report email is seen by spamassass

dangling symlink?

2003-10-03 Thread Pim Bliek | PingWings.nl
Hi all, English is not my native language. Does anyone know what 'dangling' means? I get the following errors emailed via cron every day: /etc/cron.daily/man-db: mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man8/ipfwadm.8.gz is a dangling symlink mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man8/fax500.8.gz is a dangling sy

Re: dangling symlink?

2003-10-03 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:48:36PM +0200, Pim Bliek | PingWings.nl wrote: > Hi all, > > English is not my native language. Does anyone know what 'dangling' means? > I get the following errors emailed via cron every day: Just hanging off into nowhere.

Re: dpkg slightly bent

2003-10-03 Thread cr
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 02:12, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:23:51PM +1200, cr wrote: > > On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:53, Colin Watson wrote: > > > 'dselect update' will refetch it. > > > > Thanks! Worked perfectly! > > Good stuff. Hello to you a day in the future, by the way ;) Just m

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 17:08, Daniel B. wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >... > > > BTW what Linux email software allows users to run executable attachments by > > > clicking on them? > > > > None, now. > > What exactly do you mean? > > Doesn't much e-mail software support opening attachments, and

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 19:06, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:43:51PM -0400, Dan Anderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [big snippage] > Few if any of these are self-propogating. Code Red is one of the few > widely spread exploits in recent memory affecting GNU/Linux systems, and >

Re: Debian Desktop for a Joe Average

2003-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 22:48, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Don't go directly from stable to unstable!! Too radical > > That's how I always got to unstable. I do recommend stripping down

Re: Debian Desktop for a Joe Average

2003-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 18:54, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:40:40PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 16:58, Colin Watson wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Don't go directly from stable to unstable!! Too radical

repairing unusable console keyboard

2003-10-03 Thread Matt Price
Hi folks, having just recently figured out xmodmap and installed a .Xmodmap file, I wanted to see if I could make the console work the same way. Reading the loadkeys man page, I saw that the file syntax was nearly the same for loadkeys as for xmodmap, so I just tried running loadkeys .Xmodmap...

What happened to linuxconf

2003-10-03 Thread Debian User
hi, sorry for me beeing called "Debian user" on my system, but i was just a little inattentive in the base-install and i am just new to linux - after heavy virus - attacks decided to switch over. Now i don't know how to change my real name in order to appear correct in Mails send out by mutt again.

help! bogofilter broken, flooded with spam

2003-10-03 Thread Matt Price
hey folks, wasn't bpaying attention to disk usage and my /home directory filled up due to the eormous number of swen mails I've been getting. bogofilter was running when the directory filled up, and the database got messed up so that I now get this error message whenever it runs: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Installation has not created boot properly

2003-10-03 Thread dan oram
Hi, I installed Debian Linux on my Windows PC yesterday. Everything seemed to go smoothly, except it hasn't created the boot sector properly. Booting from the hard disk it gets as far as displaying the following: Booting from IDE 0 LI And it freezes. I can boot fine from the rescue disk.

Re: What happened to linuxconf

2003-10-03 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:02:34PM +0200, Debian User wrote: > sorry for me beeing called "Debian user" on my system, but i was just a little > inattentive in the base-install and i am just new to linux - after heavy > virus - attacks decided to switch

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-03 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Such power users should be able to have the noexec removed on request. > Of course, they will be given a lecture and if they screw up will get no > sympathy. Michael C. writes: > I wasn't aware that you can do this (unless you maintain different > partitions for each user.) I am assumi

Re: Installation has not created boot properly

2003-10-03 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Friday 03 October 2003 14:37, dan oram wrote: > I installed Debian Linux on my Windows PC yesterday. Everything seemed to > go smoothly, except it hasn't created the boot sector properly. Booting > from the hard disk it gets as far as displaying the following: > > Booting from IDE 0 > > LI > >

Re: What happened to linuxconf

2003-10-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 06:00:44AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:02:34PM +0200, Debian User wrote: > > sorry for me beeing called "Debian user" on my system, but i was > > just a little inattentive in the base-install and i am just new to > > linux - after heavy virus - at

Re: defalt nfs mount options

2003-10-03 Thread arjen
John Spray wrote: arjen wrote: I do some mounts from an nfs server, and I get a few mount options that I did not specify myself: huis:/files/samba on /home/samba type nfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) To get rid of bits that you didn't specify, you have to specify something contradictory. This

Re: What happened to linuxconf

2003-10-03 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:07:39PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > You don't need root privileges in order to run chfn! You do if you want to change your name. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin a

Re: Installation has not created boot properly

2003-10-03 Thread Kent West
dan oram wrote: Hi, I installed Debian Linux on my Windows PC yesterday. Everything seemed to go smoothly, except it hasn't created the boot sector properly. Booting from the hard disk it gets as far as displaying the following: Booting from IDE 0 LI And it freezes. I can boot fine from

Re: Diff btw GeForce4 and RIVA TNT2?

2003-10-03 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
From: Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Subject: Re: Diff btw GeForce4 and RIVA TNT2? >> Quod erat demonstrandum! >The nvidia-using-TNT2 will *smoke* the nv-using-GeForce4. Unfortunately with Backstreet Ruby I cannot mix nvidia and nv, so both the figures are with nvidia. Unfortunately that it i

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses

2003-10-03 Thread Benedict Verheyen
>> I don't know but this seems like overkill. Does mounting home noexec >> mean that I can't run programs for /home/. > >Yep, that's what it means. Things located in the partition mounted at >/home are not allowed to be executed (though it can be bypassed) > >> What about at school. They >> don't

Re: xinerama ideas

2003-10-03 Thread Malcolm Ferguson
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: I have 2 monitors with each keyboard/mouse [...] But another use is one user with xinerama. [...] What in the world would I use xinerama for? Not having had it, being small-minded, now I can't think of a use of it. I use two monitors under Win2K (19in @ 1280x1024x32bpp a

Re: What happened to linuxconf

2003-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 08:00, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:02:34PM +0200, Debian User wrote: > > sorry for me beeing called "Debian user" on my system, but i was just a little > > inattentive in the base-install and i am just n

cd ripping - was: cdrecord errors

2003-10-03 Thread Joachim Fahnenmueller
Hi Anthony, I think the error is rather in CD ripping than in the burning process. Try to rip with cdparanoia and describe what happens. BTW: Are these CDs copy protected? On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:01:29AM +0100, Antony Gelberg wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm going through some CD ripping with cdre

xinerama ideas

2003-10-03 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi! They are sitting so far away because they are normally used to each have a user with its own keyboard and mouse and the PC in between them. That is the Backstreet Ruby multi-user use. So that way I can (at present) boot with each monitor having its own xdm login screen, but way I cannot switc

SOLVED: help! bogofilter broken, flooded with spam

2003-10-03 Thread Matt Price
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 08:27:24AM -0400, Matt Price wrote: > hey folks, > > wasn't bpaying attention to disk usage and my /home directory filled > up due to the eormous number of swen mails I've been getting. > bogofilter was running when the directory filled up, and the database > got messed up

PAM Error: couldn't get the tty name

2003-10-03 Thread Andrew Graham
Hi, I am trying to get PAM to work with a pop server (ipopd-ssl) in order to limit the people who who use this particular server, but I get the error "couldn't get the tty name". I think it has something to do with the PAM_TTY env variable not being set properly by the ipopd, but does anyone know a

Bug#213931: What happened to linuxconf

2003-10-03 Thread Colin Watson
Package: passwd Version: 4.0.3-8 Severity: minor On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 06:33:50AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:07:39PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > You don't need root privileges in order to run chfn! > > You do if you want to change your name. Oops, I stand correc

Re: Paranoid Admin: Keystroke Logger for Debian

2003-10-03 Thread R Ransbottom
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 04:20:33PM -0700, ListDude1 wrote: > Hey all, I was just wondering if there is a keystroke logger avaialble for > Debian.very secure >do not trust > chrooting >

Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses

2003-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 08:48, Benedict Verheyen wrote: [snip] > I think that a lot of users tend to switch to using root because they > cannot achieve simple tasks with their "normal" user. For instance > writing cd's. It would help if there is a doc that explains how users You mentioned sudo. Pau

Re: Spamassassin thinking i'm a spammer

2003-10-03 Thread W. Paul Mills
the message originated at: > mark > > The message WILL BE delivered to: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The message has been quarantined as: > > /var/lib/amavis/virusmails/spam-9a81e2098af61b2e4a1ce70af22a5fc8-20031003-103400-27759-07.gz > > W

quickest way to restore backup on lvm

2003-10-03 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Hi, i have looked at several ways to backup/restore my server. It has lvm and i'm not sure which restore system will work the best with lvm. Currently i backup /etc /boot /home /root and some /var dirs. I might make a backup of all paritions in the future. Anyway, as i see it, i can do 2 things:

Re: kernel-package build, is this a problem

2003-10-03 Thread David Z Maze
stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 03:43:06PM +0200, Werner Mahr wrote: >> >> Am Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2003 18:32 schrieben Sie: >> > > make-kpkg modules_image >> > >> > Shouldn't that create a .deb for the modules, that I need to dpkg >> > -i? If so, I can't seem to find i

problems installing and starting nicotine

2003-10-03 Thread Philipp Bliedung
hi, I am running Debian woody with a few packages from unstable (like python and libc6). I was trying to install "nicotine" and I pointed my sources.list to Debian unstable to get all the necessary packages and I installed python 2.3, libc6 2.3.2, nicotine and all that. When I want to start nicoti

Re: xinerama ideas

2003-10-03 Thread David Z Maze
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have 2 monitors with each keyboard/mouse and I use > them with Backstreet Ruby to have 2 users use the one > Debian system. > > But another use is one user with xinerama. Since I > usually sit 17 inches off the tube, I find looking at > the other tub

[OT] kernel versioning: extra suffixes

2003-10-03 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List, where can we find the meaning of the extra suffixes for the kernel vesrioning (e.g, -ac, -preN, -bkN) ? Thanks, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What happened to linuxconf

2003-10-03 Thread Lance Simmons
* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031003 09:39]: > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 08:00, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > Welcome to the heard. > > What did you hear? Or, rather, who heard you? -- Lance Simmons -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: problems installing and starting nicotine

2003-10-03 Thread James Strandboge
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 10:45, Philipp Bliedung wrote: > hi, > > I am running Debian woody with a few packages from unstable (like > python and libc6). > I was trying to install "nicotine" and I pointed my sources.list to > Debian unstable to get all the necessary packages and I installed > python 2

Re: Adding a user with a dot (.) in his name: How?

2003-10-03 Thread Travis Crump
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 03:58:55AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:48:41 +0100, "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: on Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:58:38PM +0200, Andreas Schildbach ([EMAIL PROTECTE

sound woes with kernel 2.6.0 and 865 chipset

2003-10-03 Thread Schulman . Andrew
I'm running kernel 2.6.0-test4 on my Abit IS7 mobo (Intel 865 chipset). I'm trying to get ALSA sound working, and I'm having a devil of a time of it. I have ALSA sound enabled in my kernel. Abit (and also Realtek, who make the integrated AC650 sound chip) offers an AC'97 codec module to be do

Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Jon Earle
I sent _one_ post to the debian-users list yesterday. One. I neglected to use an alias I'd created for posting to that list, and, due to their open posting policy and their email-usenet gateway and the availability of addresses in the clear within the list archives, within _minutes_, I started re

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-03 Thread csj
At Thu, 02 Oct 2003 08:02:00 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > Kjetil writes: > > Scenario: A perl script deleting all the files in the homedir > > of infected users, spreading to all the contacts that is in > > user's addressbooks. This would likely include all the > > homedirs of all the users in an

Re: sound woes with kernel 2.6.0 and 865 chipset

2003-10-03 Thread Dan Anderson
FWIW, Did you make clean before compiling the kernel? If you didn't those errors could be a result of previously compiled code. OTOH if you're an advanced enough user to want to compile your own kernel you probably knew that. HTH -Dan On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread NOSPAM
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:13:28PM -0400, Jon Earle wrote: > I sent _one_ post to the debian-users list yesterday. One. I neglected > to use an alias I'd created for posting to that list, and, due to their > open posting policy and their email-usenet gateway and the availability of > addresses i

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:13:28PM -0400, Jon Earle wrote: > This open list policy that so many lists have, while it _may_, and I'm > placing a lot of faith and emphasis on the 'may', offer the occasional > newbie or (individual who couldn't be bothered to subscribe multiple > addresses) the abilit

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Bill Moseley
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:13:28PM -0400, Jon Earle wrote: > [1] Once the message is posted, how does said newbie receive replies if > those helping just reply to the list. The whole policy makes _no_ sense > whatsoever. +1 I could not agree more. -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UN

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:13:28 -0400 (EDT), Jon Earle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > I sent _one_ post to the debian-users list yesterday. One. I neglected > to use an alias I'd created for posting to that list, and, due to their > open posting policy and their email-usenet gateway and the availabili

RE: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread skippi
Yes, this is a pain. I am subscribed with two addresses. It's a long story, but at the other one, I get no spam. This email address I subscribed about 48 hours ago and instantly got attacked with virus emails. I am getting 50 to 60 of them a day. It's very annoying. But, there doesn't seem

Help, OSX vs Linux

2003-10-03 Thread Mike Egglestone
Hi All, I'm a system's admin looking after several different sites at which most of them have woody servers. But some of the staff are pushing for OSX servers. The workstations range from PC's to Imacs. running all different OS's. I'm finding it difficult to convince them that OSX is not the way t

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread David Palmer.
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:13:28 -0400 (EDT), Jon Earle said: > I sent _one_ post to the debian-users list yesterday. One. I neglected > to use an alias I'd created for posting to that list, and, due to their > open posting policy and their email-usenet gateway and the availability of > addresses

question concerning cat /dev/lp0 with parport

2003-10-03 Thread Gustavo G. Parma
Hi, We have a quite old printer server machine with linux 2.2.13 (Mandrake) with parport (default configuration) compiled into the kernel that works fine as a printer server. The printer attached to lp0 is an HP laserjet series printer and if we ask for the page count we got the following answer:

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Dan Anderson
I've had very good success with the following: 1) Send all e-mails with your name not listed as a receipient to a probable spam folder. After a few weeks of tweaking (mailing lists and newsletters will get send there too) you will find just about everything in there the probable spam folder is sp

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 03 Oct 2003, J. Bruce Fields wrote: [snip] > > Personally I gave up on the idea of hiding my email address a long time > ago. I want people with a legitimate reason to be able to reach me > without jumping through hoops. With dictionary attacks against mail > servers and third-party leaks of

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Martin Stigge
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 18:13, Jon Earle wrote: > This open list policy that so many lists have, while it _may_, and I'm > placing a lot of faith and emphasis on the 'may', offer the occasional > newbie or (individual who couldn't be bothered to subscribe multiple > addresses) the ability to post[1],

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:58:46 -0700, Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:13:28PM -0400, Jon Earle wrote: >> [1] Once the message is posted, how does said newbie receive replies if >> those helping just reply to the list. The whole policy makes _no_ sense >> whatsoev

Re: sound woes with kernel 2.6.0 and 865 chipset

2003-10-03 Thread Schulman . Andrew
Thanks. Yes, I always make clean first. Dan Anderson

Re: user-level logrotate?

2003-10-03 Thread John M Flinchbaugh
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 11:14:16PM +, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > I have a few applications that create log files in my home directory. Is > there a (simple) way to use logrotate as a normal user? simpler than logrotate, there is also savelog(8) for individual logs.. -- }J

Re: Help, OSX vs Linux

2003-10-03 Thread Dan Anderson
> Are there any other benefits of debian that out way it from OSX? Just out of curiosity, if you were running Debian what architecture would you be running it on? If you were going to be using the new G5 regardless, I'd point out that many applications benefit from 64 bit architectures (m

I want spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Info
Please send me lots and lots of spam, viruses, hoaxes, etc! I want money from Nigerians! I want Viagra! I want a bigger penis! I want cheap animal sex! Gimme all the spam and crap you can muster! Send it all here! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: Help, OSX vs Linux

2003-10-03 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Mike Egglestone said on Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 10:20:25AM -0700: > I'm finding it difficult to convince them that OSX is not the way to go. > We all know the reasons why Debian is so Great, but they can't see it. > The biggest push is that the OSX server can have workgroups for accounts and > thus l

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:25:16PM -0400, Dan Anderson wrote: > 5) Make anybody e-mailing to your address who is not on your whitelist > (besides listservs!) respond to an automatic reply to be added to your > whitelist. Most spammers won't respond (although people on the listserv > may get angry

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Dan Anderson
> It isn't just people on listserv's that will be annoyed: please never > send automatic replies; the "from" address is a lie anyway. This is one of the reasons I put a caveat about listservs not following rules. However, FWIW, on a business only address (which isn't subscribing to a list

Re: PHP4 in Unstable

2003-10-03 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 04:41:00PM -0700, Daniel L. Miller wrote: > Is it safe to upgrade to PHP4 4.3.2+rc3-6 from unstable yet (running > latest unstable Apache 1.3)? Or should I stay with 4.1.2-6woody3? > Last time I tried - I had MAJOR problems. Gee, with a description like "MAJOR problems" I'

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:25:16 -0400, Dan Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > I've had very good success with the following: > > 1) Send all e-mails with your name not listed as a receipient to a > probable spam folder. After a few weeks of tweaking (mailing lists and > newsletters will get send

Root path question

2003-10-03 Thread Steve Doerr
I'm confused about root's bash profile. In vt1, the directories /sbin & /usr/local/sbin are excluded from the path. If I su to root within Gnome or KDE in a terminal they are there. I'm not sure why there isn't a common bash profile for root in vt1 vs. vt7. Where would the two be located? W

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:00:52PM -0400, Dan Anderson wrote: > > It isn't just people on listserv's that will be annoyed: please never > > send automatic replies; the "from" address is a lie anyway. > > This is one of the reasons I put a caveat about listservs not following > rules. The pr

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Dan Anderson
> So, again, please don't send automatic replies. Although you may not personally approve of the method it is an accepted method of blocking spam. YMMV and such. > On such an email address I'd be even more wary about using an > autoresponder because I don't want people that are potenti

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-03 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 07:17, ScruLoose wrote: > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:56:07PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > > "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:02:00:37:35+0100] scribed: > > > > > > Please share this knowledge. What executables are you awaree of > > > affecting non-Microsof

Re: does debian xfree support my video?

2003-10-03 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 01:47, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > VEGH Karoly wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:08:23AM -0600, skippi wrote: > > > >>Greetings all. > >> > >>I have acquired a new motherboard. It's an Intel D865GBF. The onboard video > >>controller is Intel Extreme Graphics 2, 82865G Gra

Re: GCC 3.3 Questions: Should I Install? Should I install with ProPolice?

2003-10-03 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 17:44, David Z Maze wrote: > Dan Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I am trying to figure out Linux with the help of O'Reilly's /Running > > Linux/. It recommends that I do not install new versions of compilers > > unless absolutely necessary just in case things get

Re: USB mouse under X not working

2003-10-03 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 18:57, willem wrote: > Been at this for two days and getting rather desperate...googled > meself to bits but no luck...i'm really lost on this one. > Sorry for such a big email with all the logs and such. > I might be missing something very obvious. > > Running on a Asus P4P8

Re: xinerama ideas

2003-10-03 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 00:10, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi all! > > I have 2 monitors with each keyboard/mouse and I use > them with Backstreet Ruby to have 2 users use the one > Debian system. > > But another use is one user with xinerama. Since I > usually sit 17 inches off the tube, I find looki

Re: Help, OSX vs Linux

2003-10-03 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Dan Anderson wrote: On the other hand, like so many distributions designed for those without a good grasp of computers, OS X probably puts a lot of load on the machine with superfluous programs. When I install debian I only install the kernel modules I want, and only install the packages I want,

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-03 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Unless the admins were sensible and had mounted /home noexec on > all company machines. csj writes: > What about "sh ${HOME}/script"? Secretaries, CEOs, and other "vulnerable" users won't know about such things. Noexec isn't foolproof. It just reduces the probability of some marketdr

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-03 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Micha Feigin wrote: I am guessing that the fact that most of these viruses etc. appear on windows is more due to popularity then security. The fact that it is also easier and thus every script kidy can patch up a virus of of a couple of scripts found on the internet probably helps also. Linux is j

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:21:20PM -0400, Dan Anderson wrote: > > So, again, please don't send automatic replies. > > Although you may not personally approve of the method it is an accepted > method of blocking spam. YMMV and such. There certainly is software out there (virus software at

Re: USB mouse under X not working

2003-10-03 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Micha Feigin wrote: don't know how usb-uhci and ehci-hcd play together. iirc ehci-hcd is for usb 2.0, so if you don't have such bus, disable it. They play fine together. In fact there is really no need disable it. If you have the USB 2.0, the modprobe succeeds. If not, the modprobe errors out

Re: Help, OSX vs Linux

2003-10-03 Thread Mike Egglestone
Quoting Dan Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Just out of curiosity, if you were running Debian what architecture > would you be running it on? If you were going to be using the new G5 > regardless, I'd point out that many applications benefit from 64 bit > architectures (mySQL is a good e

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 14:08, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 07:17, ScruLoose wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:56:07PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > > > "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:02:00:37:35+0100] scribed: [snip] > I am guessing that the fact that most of t

Re: pppd daemon

2003-10-03 Thread J Y
The connection seems to be working now but I can't get any internet applications to "see" the connection. deblnx:/home/john# plog Oct 3 13:48:48 deblnx pppd[1333]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 1378), status = 0x1 Oct 3 13:49:17 deblnx pppd[1333]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x6186

Network attached storage and backup

2003-10-03 Thread Aaron
Hello Debs. (Does it get tiresome being called Debs? I personally don't mind being called one, but I never asked) My question is a matter of opinion, and since there are so many opinions I respect here, I thought I would bring it to you. While setting up my Debian network fileserver, it occurred

Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

2003-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:18, John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > Unless the admins were sensible and had mounted /home noexec on > > all company machines. > > csj writes: > > What about "sh ${HOME}/script"? > > Secretaries, CEOs, and other "vulnerable" users won't know about such > things. Noexec

Joystick devices in 2.6.0-test4

2003-10-03 Thread Nicos Gollan
I found a strange thing in kernel 2.6.0-test4. The joystick devices that should be /dev/input/js* are directly in /dev (so I have /dev/js*). I have enabled the joystick interface (INPUT_JOYDEV) which says in the help it would create the devices in /dev/input. And yes, I am using devfs. Right now

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread John Hasler
J. Bruce Fields writes: > In fact it is not, because it greatly increases the negative impact of > spam and virus mail (most of which is sent with forged "from" addresses) > by multiplying the amount of useless email that is sent. Such useless bounces typically account for about 25% of my email. -

Re: Help, OSX vs Linux

2003-10-03 Thread Mike Egglestone
Quoting Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I haven't seen any uptime or speed benchmarks, so I can't comment on either > Debian vs. OS X with respect to uptime or speed. I would guess that you > would > require a bit less downtime with Debian, since you would be able to just > apt-get update &&

Re: Network attached storage and backup

2003-10-03 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Aaron said on Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:50:51PM -0400: > I lack any kind of realistic backup system, I'm not RAIDing my data > (only a single 200 gig drive), my hardware is sub-par (Linux doesn't > really *like* VIA too much), and I'm sure there are other things I > could be doing differently. > > I

I want spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Info
Please send me lots and lots of spam, viruses, hoaxes, etc! I'm testing filters and want real-world spam to hit me. Send it all here! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Holy Spam!

2003-10-03 Thread Clive Menzies
On (04/10/03 01:40), David Palmer. wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:13:28 -0400 (EDT), Jon Earle said: > > > I sent _one_ post to the debian-users list yesterday. One. I neglected > > to use an alias I'd created for posting to that list, and, due to their > > open posting policy and their email-

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