On (04/10/03 01:40), David Palmer. wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:13:28 -0400 (EDT), Jon Earle said: > > > I sent _one_ post to the debian-users list yesterday. One. I neglected > > to use an alias I'd created for posting to that list, and, due to their > > open posting policy and their email-usenet gateway and the availability of > > addresses in the clear within the list archives, within _minutes_, I > > started receiving viruses, spam and other crap. My mail logs since > > yesterday show a _ton_ of crap coming at me now! Unbelievable! > > > > This open list policy that so many lists have, while it _may_, and I'm > > placing a lot of faith and emphasis on the 'may', offer the occasional > > newbie or (individual who couldn't be bothered to subscribe multiple > > addresses) the ability to post[1], that, coupled with gatewaying to news, > > I feel is just plain irresponsible. It's a _very_ poorly thought out > > policy that I feel does more to harm the list community that help > > (particularly the list gateway to news). > > > > I understand their is a passion and an almost a cult-like religion to keep > > things completely open, free, unencumbered, unfettered, etc, however, > > _controls_, not restrictions, are neccessary to ensure the integrity of > > the list environment. Users don't want spam, and they do want their > > service providers to take reasonable, not intrusive, but reasonable > > measures to reduce or eliminate their exposure to the spam industry. > > > > I've been forced to change my email address, thanks to the debian mailing > > list. Is this a positive result of the desire for openness? > > > > Cheers! > > Jon > > > > [1] Once the message is posted, how does said newbie receive replies if > > those helping just reply to the list. The whole policy makes _no_ sense > > whatsoever. > > > You're supposed to subscribe to the list, and that way you get a reply in your > mail client. > As far as the spam goes, you're not supposed to avoid it. I've been sitting > back and watching people on this list hack their way round the situation. > If you look back over the recent archival history, you will see scripts that > have been created that have seen some of these people spamless. It has gone a > long way towards helping configure mailing formats too. If you isolate yourself > too much from the environment, you become ill suited to survive in it. The > story of the human race. > Regards, > > David. > Rock on ;)
I'm fighting spam and this stuff is "hard", but I've learnt more about email in the last week or two, than I ever knew in some 20 years of using computers ;) Regards Clive -- http://www.clivemenzies.co.uk strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
