SOLVED (Was: Re: OT what is META_ATTENDEES_DBSPAM1?)

2025-03-17 Thread 황병희
Hellow Hanno, On Mon, 2025-03-17 at 13:28 +0100, Hanno 'Rince' Wagner wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > On Mon, 17 Mar 2025, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > Looking at e.g. <877c4p5503@thinkpad-e495.home.arpa> which has > > almost no > > words in it, yet has META_ATTENDEES_DBSPAM1=10; can you confirm

Re: OT what is META_ATTENDEES_DBSPAM1?

2025-03-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Mar 17, 2025 at 10:49 AM GMT, Hanno 'Rince' Wagner wrote: because spammer use some words quite often and we use these words as detection of spammers. Looking at e.g. <877c4p5503@thinkpad-e495.home.arpa> which has almost no words in it, yet has META_ATTENDEES_DBSPAM1=10; can you con

OT what is META_ATTENDEES_DBSPAM1?

2025-03-17 Thread Byunghee HWANG
Hellow there, For two days, i had wierd experince at Debian mailing. Actually i send mail to debian-user@lists.debian.org but that did not return to my mailbox. At that time i did try 3 times. Then the third email was successful. After investigate, i did know something. Some spam rule was so high

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-20 Thread Eduard Bloch
o have seperate instances >without the cookies and stuff being used in both of them. I have been in a similar situation about a year ago (and had to use chromium for a couple of months) and it suddenly resolved itself after some unknown update. Please run your firefox process wrapped by stra

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-18 Thread Richmond
I don't think anyone mentioned the command line option --new-instance firefox --new-instance Probably you should use it with --ProfileManager firefox --new-instance --ProfileManager Alternatively you can enter about:profiles in the location bar and start a new one from there. If firefox is slo

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-16 Thread John Hasler
Roy J. Tellason, Sr. writes: > I run [both uBlock-origin and NoScript], here. Noscript being the > most recently added. It does make a nontrivial difference... Likewise. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-16 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Wednesday 15 January 2025 09:49:15 pm Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 14/01/2025 17:11, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: > > btw, you need to install noscripts from the extensions panel AND UBlock > > origin or Adblock plus at least if you want to get rid of all ads and > > javascripts code that have

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-16 Thread Dan Ritter
Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 14/01/2025 17:11, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: > > btw, you need to install noscripts from the extensions panel AND UBlock > > origin or Adblock plus at least if you want to get rid of all ads and > > javascripts code that have nothing to with the actual content of the

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-15 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/01/2025 17:11, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: btw, you need to install noscripts from the extensions panel AND UBlock origin or Adblock plus at least if you want to get rid of all ads and javascripts code that have nothing to with the actual content of the sites you browse (and are here

Browsers on remote DISPLAY (was: Re: What is going on with firefox)

2025-01-15 Thread Max Nikulin
On 16/01/2025 00:38, Tim Woodall wrote: I don't think you understand my setup. Remote XDMCP thin client. I have not checked current state of affairs. I believed that it was working greet 20 years ago before hardware graphics acceleration and client-side font rendering. That is why I mentioned

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-15 Thread Tim Woodall
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, Max Nikulin wrote: On 14/01/2025 16:32, Tim Woodall wrote: On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, Max Nikulin wrote: On 14/01/2025 04:40, Tim Woodall wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, Daniel Harris wrote: I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/01/2025 16:32, Tim Woodall wrote: On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, Max Nikulin wrote: On 14/01/2025 04:40, Tim Woodall wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, Daniel Harris wrote: I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately.  It is terrible. 

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread John Hasler
Stefan writes: > Yes. But it's often(usually?) bugs in the code run within the systems > rather than bugs in the systems themselves. In browsers, the code run > "within the system" is in large part the Javascript code downloaded > from random sites. Install an unloader extension such as New Tab

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>> If that fails, it's time to stop and restart FF. I usually clean the >>> sqlite DBs by going to my FF profile directory and running this (buried >>> in a larger cleanup script): >> A browser, like Windows or any other non-operating system, has to be >> rebooted from time to time. >> The ritual

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 01:34:41PM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello, > > On 14/01/2025 11:45, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > The rituals of rebirth and that. > > Am I the only one to see this as a bug ? I tend to see browsers (as Windows) as big feasts of bugs. Cheers -- t signature.

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello, On 14/01/2025 11:45, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 04:40:38AM -0500, Karl Vogel wrote: [...] If that fails, it's time to stop and restart FF. I usually clean the sqlite DBs by going to my FF profile directory and running this (buried in a larger cleanup script): A

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 11:03:13 +0100, Sijmen J. Mulder wrote: > Feeling you! My browsing experience has also been steadily declining. I > have an i5-6600 with 48 GB of RAM, which is aging, but it shouldn't > struggle having a few video tabs open. YouTube's UI is often actively > lagging, with hov

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 04:40:38 -0500, Karl Vogel wrote: > for file in $(find . -maxdepth 1 -name '*.sqlite' -print); do Just be aware that this is *not* safe in general. It will fail if any of the pathnames contain whitespace. It may work fine on your Firefox directory, but other applicati

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 04:40:38AM -0500, Karl Vogel wrote: [...] > If that fails, it's time to stop and restart FF. I usually clean the > sqlite DBs by going to my FF profile directory and running this (buried > in a larger cleanup script): A browser, like Windows or any other non-operating sy

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Jean-François Bachelet
hello :) Le 13/01/2025 à 16:18, Daniel Harris a écrit : 12 Gen i9 processor 16 core 24 threads 64GB ram onboard intel Alderlake GT1 gpu should be sufficient to run firefox pretty well with not many tabs running and light cpu usage and lots of free mem. sure :) btw, you need to install noscr

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Sijmen J. Mulder
Daniel Harris wrote: > I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on > earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow Feeling you! My browsing experience has also been steadily declining. I have an i5-6600 with 48 GB of RAM, which is aging, but it shou

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Karl Vogel
I run Firefox for weeks at a time with about 40 tabs open, and I noticed it slowing down as it chewed up more swap. I was able to "fix" this by using cron to disable and enable swap hourly to force everything back into memory. If that fails, it's time to stop and restart FF. I usually clean the

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-14 Thread Tim Woodall
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, Max Nikulin wrote: On 14/01/2025 04:40, Tim Woodall wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, Daniel Harris wrote: I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow and why is it not possible to h

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/01/2025 04:40, Tim Woodall wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, Daniel Harris wrote: I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately.  It is terrible.  So slow and why is it not possible to have 2 separate instances anymore. It's n

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel Harris
So are we saying that chromium is not allowing youtube to do that and that is why it is more responsive On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 11:21 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 21:34:39 +, Daniel Harris wrote: > > So the strange thing is (and this could be completely normal) that as I

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/1/25 07:21, Greg Woo ledge wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 21:34:39 +, Daniel Harris wrote: So the strange thing is (and this could be completely normal) that as I am watching the process Manager, so I have 3 youtube pages open but no videos playing, and without switching to any other t

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 21:34:39 +, Daniel Harris wrote: > So the strange thing is (and this could be completely normal) that as I am > watching the process Manager, so I have 3 youtube pages open but no videos > playing, and without switching to any other tab, only the process Manager > tab.

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel Harris
only ublock origin and one youtube page no video playing consumes 1GB ram that seems a lot On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 9:39 PM Bret Busby wrote: > On 14/1/25 05:34, Daniel Harris wrote: > > So the strange thing is (and this could be completely normal) that as I > > am watching the process Manager,

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, Daniel Harris wrote: Hello I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow and why is it not possible to have 2 separate instances anymore. It's not possible with chromium either.

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/1/25 05:34, Daniel Harris wrote: So the strange thing is (and this could be completely normal) that as I am watching the process Manager, so I have 3 youtube pages open but no videos playing, and without switching to any other tab, only the process Manager tab.  The cpu keeps spiking from

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel Harris
So the strange thing is (and this could be completely normal) that as I am watching the process Manager, so I have 3 youtube pages open but no videos playing, and without switching to any other tab, only the process Manager tab. The cpu keeps spiking from .25% to over 100% on different youtube pro

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread David Wright
On Tue 14 Jan 2025 at 00:49:49 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > I generally work on being able to open and keep open, a Firefox > window, for each GB of RAM, which seems to work most of the time, with > one or more Windows, having multiple youtube tabs open. > > at present, on a system with 128GB RAM

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/1/25 01:35, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 at 10:03 AM From: "Bret Busby" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: What is going on with firefox On 13/1/25 22:26, Daniel Harris wrote: Hello I am a very long time happy firefox user using deb

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread pocket
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 at 1:17 PM > From: to...@tuxteam.de > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: What is going on with firefox > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 06:35:41PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > [...] > > > I don't

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 06:35:41PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: [...] > I don't have any rams, but I do have some ewes. Poking fun at people because of some typo is not only lame, but also infantile. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread pocket
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 at 10:03 AM > From: "Bret Busby" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: What is going on with firefox > > On 13/1/25 22:26, Daniel Harris wrote: > > Hello > > > > I am a very long time happy firefox us

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel Harris
Thanks Bret. I didnt know about Process Manager. Its probably over my head but its helpful to know its there when things slow down. with dxtrade it slows down usually within hours youtube is a bit more unpredictable. I tend not to ever shutdown my computer only suspend every night. I have jus

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/1/25 00:14, Daniel Harris wrote:   Now its possible something to do with ublockorigin but the two sites that show a slowdown are youtube and another piece of software called dxtrade (I think i disabled ublock on dxtrade).  Everything seems to start off fine but the longer the windows a

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 1/13/25 9:55 AM, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 13 Jan 2025 14:26 +, from mail.dhar...@googlemail.com (Daniel Harris): I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow Can you give a specific example o

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/1/25 00:33, Bret Busby wrote: On 14/1/25 00:19, Bret Busby wrote: On 13/1/25 23:55, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 13 Jan 2025 14:26 +, from mail.dhar...@googlemail.com (Daniel Harris): Come on firefox devs Probably not many of those on the debian-user mailing list; and even if t

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/1/25 00:19, Bret Busby wrote: On 13/1/25 23:55, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 13 Jan 2025 14:26 +, from mail.dhar...@googlemail.com (Daniel Harris): Come on firefox devs Probably not many of those on the debian-user mailing list; and even if there are, a post to an unrelated mail

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/1/25 23:55, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 13 Jan 2025 14:26 +, from mail.dhar...@googlemail.com (Daniel Harris): Come on firefox devs Probably not many of those on the debian-user mailing list; and even if there are, a post to an unrelated mailing list is not the way to file bug r

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel Harris
Sorry Bret now sent to the list 2 windows open that dont use the same profile: so when running in private mode I am not running as the same user logged on to the other instance(window). so I am not logged into youtube when surfing in private mode but in normal mode (eg the other window) I am signe

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 13 Jan 2025 14:26 +, from mail.dhar...@googlemail.com (Daniel Harris): > I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on > earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow Can you give a specific example of a situation when the browser is slow? Whic

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel Harris
12 Gen i9 processor 16 core 24 threads 64GB ram onboard intel Alderlake GT1 gpu should be sufficient to run firefox pretty well with not many tabs running and light cpu usage and lots of free mem. Thanks Dan On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 3:03 PM Bret Busby wrote: > On 13/1/25 22:26, Daniel Harris w

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/1/25 23:03, Bret Busby wrote: On 13/1/25 22:26, Daniel Harris wrote: Hello I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately.  It is terrible.  So slow and why is it not possible to have 2 separate instances anymore. So,

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Dan Ritter
Daniel Harris wrote: > Hello > > I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on > earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow and why is > it not possible to have 2 separate instances anymore. > > I have to say that reluctantly I have started using

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/1/25 22:26, Daniel Harris wrote: Hello I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately.  It is terrible.  So slow and why is it not possible to have 2 separate instances anymore. So, how many RAMs do you have, and, what

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 02:26:06PM +, Daniel Harris wrote: > Hello > > I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on > earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow and why is > it not possible to have 2 separate instances anymore. > > I have to

What is going on with firefox

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel Harris
Hello I am a very long time happy firefox user using debian stable, but what on earth is going on with firefox lately. It is terrible. So slow and why is it not possible to have 2 separate instances anymore. I have to say that reluctantly I have started using chromium, and i must say it is so m

Re: I am currently facing a bug but unsure what is causing it

2024-09-10 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 07:58:28PM +0530, Nalini Prasad Dash wrote: > Hello, > I have recently installed debian with KDE desktop environment.But > occasionally, after doing shut down, the power button of the light stays on > and except that,everything looks like the laptop has been shut down.After

I am currently facing a bug but unsure what is causing it

2024-09-10 Thread Nalini Prasad Dash
Hello, I have recently installed debian with KDE desktop environment.But occasionally, after doing shut down, the power button of the light stays on and except that,everything looks like the laptop has been shut down.After that, I tried to off that button by pressing the button for 6-7 seconds but

Re: Image burn programs, Was: What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-06 Thread gene heskett
On 8/6/24 05:07, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: balenaetcher is purported to be smart enough to write an .iso and make it bootable. But no surprise, I dl the latest version and run it, select the iso file and it refuses to proceed to selecting the target device to write it to.

Image burn programs, Was: What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > balenaetcher is purported to be smart enough to write an .iso and make it > bootable. But no surprise, I dl the latest version and run it, select the > iso file and it refuses to proceed to selecting the target device to write > it to. Maybe it thinks too much over the e

Re: What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-06 Thread gene heskett
On 8/6/24 02:04, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Aug 05, 2024 at 11:49:37PM -0500, David Wright wrote: On Sat 03 Aug 2024 at 11:26:38 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] It is part of Microsoft's promise that anyone can be sysadmin [...] Isn't that what modern networking is striving t

Re: What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-05 Thread tomas
On Mon, Aug 05, 2024 at 11:49:37PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 03 Aug 2024 at 11:26:38 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > It is part of Microsoft's promise that anyone can be sysadmin [...] > Isn't that what modern networking is striving to attain? Whoever "modern networking" i

Re: What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Aug 2024 at 11:26:38 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 06:56:42PM +1000, George at Clug wrote: > > What is the purpose of mDNS ?  > > > >  It seems to be for multicast?   > > It is not /for/ multicast IP, it /uses/ multicast for name

Re: What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread Darac Marjal
On 03/08/2024 21:08, Lee wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 6:51 AM George at Clug wrote: Hi, What is the purpose of mDNS ? "zero-configuration networking" seems to be the search term eg -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonjour_(software) It seems to be for multicast? no, it _uses_

Re: What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread Lee
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 6:51 AM George at Clug wrote: > > Hi, > > What is the purpose of mDNS ? "zero-configuration networking" seems to be the search term eg - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonjour_(software) > It seems to be for multicast? no, it _uses_ multic

Re: What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread jeremy ardley
On 3/8/24 18:35, George at Clug wrote: Thanks for your comments, Tomas and Jeremy. George On Saturday, 03-08-2024 at 19:43 jeremy ardley wrote: On 3/8/24 17:26, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: It is not/for/ multicast IP, it/uses/ multicast for name resolution. In a nutshell [1], it sends a

Re: What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread George at Clug
Thanks for your comments, Tomas and Jeremy. George On Saturday, 03-08-2024 at 19:43 jeremy ardley wrote: > > > On 3/8/24 17:26, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > It is not/for/ multicast IP, it/uses/ multicast for name resolution. > > In a nutshell [1], it sends a "DNS" request to the local netw

Re: What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread jeremy ardley
On 3/8/24 17:26, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: It is not/for/ multicast IP, it/uses/ multicast for name resolution. In a nutshell [1], it sends a "DNS" request to the local network asking "who is called Fritz here?", and Fritz answers with its IP. So sys-non- admins don't have to set up a name ser

Re: What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread tomas
On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 06:56:42PM +1000, George at Clug wrote: > Hi, > > > What is the purpose of mDNS ?  > > >  It seems to be for multicast?   It is not /for/ multicast IP, it /uses/ multicast for name resolution. In a nutshell [1], it sends a "DNS" request t

What is the purpose of mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread George at Clug
Hi, What is the purpose of mDNS ?   It seems to be for multicast?   Does that mean its usage would be to say send video to a group of workstations all at the same time?  Like a corporate wide message from the CEO?   What other use?   It does not seem to be a unicast DNS system. That is a

Re: what is a tasklet

2023-12-06 Thread Darac Marjal
On 06/12/2023 12:32, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: DI: DI: tasklet schedule cost 12ms. this interesting message started showing up in syslog a week or so ago i've never noticed them before any ideas whet this is According to https://lwn.net/Articles/830964/, they were a way to defer the ex

what is a tasklet

2023-12-06 Thread fxkl47BF
DI: DI: tasklet schedule cost 12ms. this interesting message started showing up in syslog a week or so ago i've never noticed them before any ideas whet this is

What is /propagated-mount/ dir?

2023-07-18 Thread Kamil Jońca
There is laptop with debian sid. Sometimes on this laptop something create '/propagated-mount/' directory. I try to search with 'propagated-mount' but found only pages about namespaces. Can anyone point me to right direction? Which package is responsible for creating this dir? KJ -- http://woln

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-03-02 Thread David Wright
On Thu 02 Mar 2023 at 10:32:41 (+0100), daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > On 2023-03-02 00:24, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 28 Feb 2023 at 16:05:14 (+0100), daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > > > On 2023-02-28 05:27, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Thu 23 Feb 2023 at 11:23:30 (+0100), daven...@tuxfamil

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-03-02 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 12:14:14PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 02 Mar 2023 at 17:23:23 (-), Curt wrote: > > On 2023-03-02, David wrote: [...] > > Those seem like antithetical concepts. > > The state is identical in both cases, hence using the same letter. > OTOH the paths to that st

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-03-02 Thread David Wright
On Thu 02 Mar 2023 at 17:23:23 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2023-03-02, David wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 at 00:19, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > >> Man, I really wish the aptitude(8) man page would explain how to read > >> the output of "why". What does the "p" mean? Purged? There's nothing > >>

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-03-02 Thread Curt
On 2023-03-02, David wrote: > On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 at 00:19, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> Man, I really wish the aptitude(8) man page would explain how to read >> the output of "why". What does the "p" mean? Purged? There's nothing >> in the man page that explains the symbols in the first 3 columns

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-03-02 Thread David
On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 at 02:18, wrote: > On 2023-03-02 14:19, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 02:01:57PM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > >> > > > akb@akira:~$ LC_ALL=C aptitude why ifupdown > >> > > > p netscript-2.4 Provides ifupdown > >> > > > p netscript-2.4 Depends b

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-03-02 Thread davenull
On 2023-03-02 14:19, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 02:01:57PM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > > > akb@akira:~$ LC_ALL=C aptitude why ifupdown > > > p netscript-2.4 Provides ifupdown > > > p netscript-2.4 Depends bridge-utils (>= 0.9.3) > > > p bridge-utils Suggests

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-03-02 Thread David
On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 at 00:19, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Man, I really wish the aptitude(8) man page would explain how to read > the output of "why". What does the "p" mean? Purged? There's nothing > in the man page that explains the symbols in the first 3 columns, as > far as I can find. Yeah. It

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-03-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 02:01:57PM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > > > > akb@akira:~$ LC_ALL=C aptitude why ifupdown > > > > p netscript-2.4 Provides ifupdown > > > > p netscript-2.4 Depends bridge-utils (>= 0.9.3) > > > > p bridge-utils Suggests ifupdown > > > > akb@akira:~$ LC_ALL

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-03-02 Thread davenull
On 2023-03-02 13:47, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: On 2023-03-02 13:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 10:32:41AM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: This system never had any debian 10 or lower. It has been issued to my by $worksplace in december 2021, initially running windows

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-03-02 Thread davenull
On 2023-03-02 13:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 10:32:41AM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: This system never had any debian 10 or lower. It has been issued to my by $worksplace in december 2021, initially running windows. akb@akira:~$ LC_ALL=C aptitude why ifupdown p

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-03-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 10:32:41AM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > This system never had any debian 10 or lower. It has been issued to my by > $worksplace > in december 2021, initially running windows. > akb@akira:~$ LC_ALL=C aptitude why ifupdown > p netscript-2.4 Provides ifupdown > p

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-03-02 Thread davenull
On 2023-03-02 00:24, David Wright wrote: On Tue 28 Feb 2023 at 16:05:14 (+0100), daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: On 2023-02-28 05:27, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 23 Feb 2023 at 11:23:30 (+0100), daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > > On 2023-02-23 02:59, cono...@panix.com wrote: [ … ] Well, it look

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-03-01 Thread David Wright
On Tue 28 Feb 2023 at 16:05:14 (+0100), daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > On 2023-02-28 05:27, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 23 Feb 2023 at 11:23:30 (+0100), daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > > > On 2023-02-23 02:59, cono...@panix.com wrote: > > > > > > […] > > > > > > On the newer work laptop on th

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-28 Thread Tixy
On Tue, 2023-02-28 at 16:05 +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > > It's the systemd-style so-called "predictable" interfaces names. > Replacing the older the eth0, wlan0, and so on… > > ens-something (annoying name made of multiple letters and digits) is the > new name for eth0 Or eno for eth

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-28 Thread davenull
On 2023-02-28 05:27, David Wright wrote: On Thu 23 Feb 2023 at 11:23:30 (+0100), daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: On 2023-02-23 02:59, cono...@panix.com wrote: […] On the newer work laptop on the other hand, there is that eth0 block, there's is no eth0 interface on my system (there's enp.* and en

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-27 Thread David Wright
On Thu 23 Feb 2023 at 11:23:30 (+0100), daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > On 2023-02-23 02:59, cono...@panix.com wrote: > > On 2/22/23, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > > > > > > There is an unidentified process that decides it's ok to delete and > > > recreate /etc/resolv.conf without asking user/a

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 03:14:40PM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > I did > > - chattr +i /etc/revolv.conf > > And when auditd showed a (failed) delete event on /etc/resolv.conf > > I grepped "resolv.conf" recursively on /var/log/, and All I've found are > entries in > > - /var/log/instal

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-27 Thread davenull
Hello On 2023-02-24 11:27, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: On 2023-02-24 10:27, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 10:19:38AM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: [...] BUT I will make sure to take some time to dig into the logs monday. Now that I have an idea what I'm looking for

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-24 Thread David Wright
On Fri 24 Feb 2023 at 10:19:38 (+0100), daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > > […] > > vpnc_script has about eight methods available for setting up and > > reverting resolv.conf. Which is used depends on the presence of > > a binary, checked in turn from this list: > > > > /etc/openwrt_release

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 10:19:38AM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > However, I didn't notice any vnpc_script malfunction. It does what it is > expected to do. I'm like 99% sure the problem is dhclient deleting and > recreating /etc/resolv.conf as it sees fit, multiple times a day, and > delet

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 11:27:40AM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > [...] totally agree logs are better than suspicion But please, don't take my snark all too seriously. On reread I realize it might have sounded harsher than it was meant. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signa

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-24 Thread davenull
On 2023-02-24 10:27, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 10:19:38AM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: [...] However, I didn't notice any vnpc_script malfunction. It does what it is expected to do. I'm like 99% sure the problem is dhclient deleting and recreating /etc/resolv.con

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 10:19:38AM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: [...] > However, I didn't notice any vnpc_script malfunction. It does what it is > expected to do. I'm like 99% sure the problem is dhclient deleting and > recreating /etc/resolv.conf as it sees fit, multiple times a day, and

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-24 Thread davenull
Hello, […] vpnc_script has about eight methods available for setting up and reverting resolv.conf. Which is used depends on the presence of a binary, checked in turn from this list: /etc/openwrt_release modify_resolvconf_openwrt /usr/bin/resolvectl modify_resolved_manager

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-23 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 11:39:03PM -0600, David Wright wrote: [...] > vpnc_script has about eight methods available for setting up and > reverting resolv.conf. Which is used depends on the presence of > a binary, checked in turn from this list: > > /etc/openwrt_release modify_resolvco

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-23 Thread David Wright
On Thu 23 Feb 2023 at 10:44:35 (+0100), daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > On 2023-02-22 22:08, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 22 Feb 2023 at 18:12:29 (+0100), daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > > > > > What I want is: setting up /etc/resolv.conf ONLY > > > - at system startup/initial network connexion

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-23 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 11:31:44AM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: > > If it is DHCP: You might do a countermeasure in > > /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf. On my system I have an entry as below. > > > > interface "wlp4s0" { > > supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; > > Unfortunately,

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-23 Thread davenull
On 2023-02-23 10:54, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 10:44:35AM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: [...] Thank you. I'll give it a try, But I won't be on remote work before next week Which log file is used for that? That depends: it's the perpetrator's choice where to log

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-23 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 23/2/23 18:23, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: Hello, On 2023-02-23 02:59, cono...@panix.com wrote: On 2/22/23, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: There is an unidentified process that decides it's ok to delete and recreate /etc/resolv.conf without asking user/admin, The problem is, the problema

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-23 Thread davenull
Hi On 2023-02-22 18:30, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: Am Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 06:12:29PM +0100 schrieb daven...@tuxfamily.org: = context = For the context, I use a Debian 11 laptop for work. When I work remotely from home, I have to use a cisco VPN. Good thing is there is openco

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-23 Thread davenull
Hello, On 2023-02-23 02:59, cono...@panix.com wrote: On 2/22/23, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: There is an unidentified process that decides it's ok to delete and recreate /etc/resolv.conf without asking user/admin, The problem is, the problematic process is not work's VPN related and creates

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-23 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 10:44:35AM +0100, daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: [...] > Thank you. I'll give it a try, But I won't be on remote work before next > week > Which log file is used for that? That depends: it's the perpetrator's choice where to log (or whether to log at all, sadly). > So ins

Re: Debugging what is deleting/recreating /etc/resolv.conf with wrong configuration, on debian stable

2023-02-23 Thread davenull
Hello On 2023-02-22 22:08, David Wright wrote: On Wed 22 Feb 2023 at 18:12:29 (+0100), daven...@tuxfamily.org wrote: What I want is: setting up /etc/resolv.conf ONLY - at system startup/initial network connexion. - when openconnect is executed and connects to work's VPN - when openconnect is

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