Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 26 May 2014 17:58:26 +1200 Richard Hector wrote: > On 26/05/14 10:09, Steve Litt wrote: > > If you know how to find out which window manager Xfce is using, > > please let me known > > I just ran "ps xf" (show my processes, in tree format) > > Then I looked at the descendents of xfce4-se

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 18:09 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > I don't know how to tell. I could find no place to set the xfce window > manager, and I didn't want to change something on the openbox settings > and then restart X or Openbox, because I just have too many windows > open and too much to do. >

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Richard Hector
On 26/05/14 10:09, Steve Litt wrote: > If you know how to find out which window manager Xfce is using, please > let me known I just ran "ps xf" (show my processes, in tree format) Then I looked at the descendents of xfce4-session, and see that the first one is xfwm4. The 'wm' suggests that it's a

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread John Hasler
Steve Litt writes: > If you know how to find out which window manager Xfce is using, please > let me know Package: xfwm4 Version: 4.10.1-2 Installed-Size: 2777 Maintainer: Debian Xfce Maintainers Architecture: amd64 Provides: x-window-manager Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.78), l

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 25 May 2014 23:05:35 +0200 Filip wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2014 22:45:42 +0200 > Filip wrote: > > > On Sun, 25 May 2014 15:49:27 -0400 > > Steve Litt wrote: > > The coredump must be an Ubuntu thing. I never had it > > coredump on me, neither in Wheezy or the latest testing. > > Or maybe

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Brian
On Sun 25 May 2014 at 15:49:27 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2014 21:38:14 +0200 > Filip wrote: > > > > In order to be able to mount from the command line as normal user, I > > already had the following entries in /etc/fstab. > > > > /dev/sr0/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Filip
On Sun, 25 May 2014 22:45:42 +0200 Filip wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2014 15:49:27 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > Yes. I downloaded and installed xfe, (admittedly, this was for my > > Ubuntu 13.10 box) and what I found is it doesn't show mountable > > drives like Thunar does, so you can't mou

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Filip
On Sun, 25 May 2014 15:49:27 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > > Yes. I downloaded and installed xfe, (admittedly, this was for my > Ubuntu 13.10 box) and what I found is it doesn't show mountable drives > like Thunar does, so you can't mount an arbitrary device from xfe. > > Also, my xfe installation

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 25 May 2014 21:38:14 +0200 Filip wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2014 20:00:33 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 25 May 2014 at 00:12:57 +0200, Filip wrote: > > > > > You can mount/unmount in xfe. When you have plugged in a > > > hotpluggable medium, it gets and entry under /media. If you righ

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Filip
On Sun, 25 May 2014 20:00:33 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Sun 25 May 2014 at 00:12:57 +0200, Filip wrote: > > > You can mount/unmount in xfe. When you have plugged in a > > hotpluggable medium, it gets and entry under /media. If you right > > click on it, you have the mount/unmount option. > > What

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-25 Thread Brian
On Sun 25 May 2014 at 00:12:57 +0200, Filip wrote: > You can mount/unmount in xfe. When you have plugged in a hotpluggable > medium, it gets and entry under /media. If you right click on it, you > have the mount/unmount option. What program does xfe use for mounting? It certainly doesn't do anyth

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:51:34AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 00:27 +0200, Filip wrote: > > On Sat, 24 May 2014 21:50:32 +0200 > > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > feh to set the root window to a nice background ima

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 02:30:33PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > > > xfe > > > > Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future. > > > > > > > > i run openbox and one thing i would really like is an automoun

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 00:27 +0200, Filip wrote: > On Sat, 24 May 2014 21:50:32 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > feh to set the root window to a nice background image. > > > > I use feh --bg-scale for my Arch's JWM, but Esetroot -m f

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Filip
On Sat, 24 May 2014 21:50:32 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > feh to set the root window to a nice background image. > > I use feh --bg-scale for my Arch's JWM, but Esetroot -m for my > Debian's JWM. Perhaps Esetroot is obsolete. > Both a

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Filip
On Sat, 24 May 2014 14:30:33 -0700 wrote: > On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > > > xfe > > > > Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future. > > > > > > > > i run openbox and one thing i would really like is an automounter for > things like fl

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 14:30 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > > > xfe > > > > Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future. > > > > > > > > i run openbox and one thing i would really like is an automounter for

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread briand
On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > xfe > > Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future. > > > i run openbox and one thing i would really like is an automounter for things like flash drives. any suggestions ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> > xfe Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1400965744.816.16.camel@archlinux

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > I switch back from Xfce to Openbox What accessory apps that usually are part of a DE do you need? A nice calculator IMO is Galculator, but I didn't use it's scientific mode yet. If you're from an Europe contry whre the "," vs ".". Galculator

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > feh to set the root window to a nice background image. I use feh --bg-scale for my Arch's JWM, but Esetroot -m for my Debian's JWM. Perhaps Esetroot is obsolete. Did anybody already mention a terminal emulation? IMO a good terminal emulat

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:42:44 +0200 filip wrote: > Openbox works very well. It's not a complete desktop environment of > course, just one component, so you will need to pick and choose the > applications to make it a workable environment. Which is actually a > good thing because the application th

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-23 Thread filip
On Fri, 23 May 2014 10:08:56 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2014 12:46:14 +0300 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Mi, 21 mai 14, 08:58:00, Joe wrote: > > > The other medium-weight DE is LXDE. > > > > If there is an even lighter weight DE than LXDE I'd be very > > interested. > > > >

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 23 mai 14, 10:08:56, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2014 12:46:14 +0300 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Mi, 21 mai 14, 08:58:00, Joe wrote: > > > The other medium-weight DE is LXDE. > > > > If there is an even lighter weight DE than LXDE I'd be very > > interested. > > Well, I mean

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 23 May 2014 12:46:14 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 21 mai 14, 08:58:00, Joe wrote: > > The other medium-weight DE is LXDE. > > If there is an even lighter weight DE than LXDE I'd be very > interested. > > Kind regards, > Andrei Well, I mean, if lightness is your sole priority,

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 21 mai 14, 18:10:30, Horatio Leragon wrote: > > Does "fluxbox" come with regular security updates? http://www.debian.org/security/faq Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/m

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 21 mai 14, 08:58:00, Joe wrote: > The other medium-weight DE is LXDE. If there is an even lighter weight DE than LXDE I'd be very interested. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debi

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-22 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 22 May 2014 21:54:37 -0400 Steve Litt sent: > On Wed, 21 May 2014 16:30:13 +1000 > Chris Angelico wrote: > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan > > wrote: > > > i have just installed debian 7 and i am feeling a bit > > > uncomfortable with the new look ("unity" type

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-22 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 21 May 2014 16:30:13 +1000 Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan > wrote: > > i have just installed debian 7 and i am feeling a bit uncomfortable > > with the new look ("unity" type) i want the all time old menu > > "gnome classic". how can i enabl

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-22 Thread Linux-Fan
On 05/22/2014 03:10 AM, Horatio Leragon wrote: > From: Linux-Fan > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:51 AM > Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. > > Just like any other package. > > # aptitude install fluxbox &g

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-22 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Yes, it is always is gnome 3 shell. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:55 PM, David Dušanić wrote: > >> If I remember correctly LXDE is going through a transition to Qt. > Maybe > >> the reason why? > > > > There were some intermittent issues with those menu options in xfce a > > little while ago bu

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-22 Thread David Dušanić
>>  If I remember correctly LXDE is going through a  transition to Qt. Maybe >>  the reason why? > > There were some intermittent issues with those menu options in xfce a > little while ago but I thought they were related to lightdm/systemd > issues. In any event it all seems to work fine now. Yes

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-22 Thread David Dušanić
21.05.2014, 11:27, "Muhammad Yousuf Khan" : > Thanks Joe, David , Chirs and all . actually login screen step worked for me. > even i am also trying xfce4. > can i make gnome classic default loging environment? Yes, you can. Usually your display manager should take the last option you used as you

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Ralf Mardorf To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 3:06 AM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. However, the version of JWM provided by the Debian repositories is already very, very, very good. Can I

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Linux-Fan To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:51 AM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. Just like any other package. # aptitude install fluxbox The very machine from which I am writing this, does not

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: John Bleichert To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:24 PM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. No, it's pretty clean and very, very slim. Someone mentioned that it hasn't seen an update in a

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2014 17:25:41 -0400 Stephen Allen wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:12:58PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 > > Stephen Allen wrote: > > > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan > > > wrote: > > > > thanks alot guyz, i am act

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread John Bleichert
On 05/21/2014 05:25 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: I mentioned LXDE, but shutdown and reboot from menus haven't worked since November (sid), as there seems to be a systemd incompatibility. I got fed up calling up a terminal and entering a password to shutdown my single-user workstation after a coupl

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Stephen Allen
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:12:58PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 > Stephen Allen wrote: > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly > > > terminal window. i am new to gnom

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 Stephen Allen wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly > > terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. > > so my question is, are all the applications from

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-05-21 at 20:51 +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: > On 05/21/2014 05:20 PM, Horatio Leragon wrote: > > From: Joe > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:58 PM > > Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. > > &g

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Linux-Fan
On 05/21/2014 05:20 PM, Horatio Leragon wrote: > From: Joe > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:58 PM > Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. > > In Linux, a window manager will operate without a desktop environment, > but

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread John Bleichert
On 05/21/2014 11:16 AM, Horatio Leragon wrote: *From:* Chris Angelico *To:* debian-user@lists.debian.org *Cc:* debian *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:30 PM *Subject:* Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. I recommend installing Xfce, which is very similar to GNOME 2 (and also

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Joe To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:58 PM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. In Linux, a window manager will operate without a desktop environment, but this is a little too minimalist for me

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Horatio Leragon wrote: > Does xfce come with a lot of bloated apps? I remember that gnome-core comes > with plenty of bloated apps. I don't know that it does. A default Debian Jessie install brings with it a bunch of stuff like LibreOffice, but I don't think Xfce

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Chris Angelico To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: debian Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:30 PM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. I recommend installing Xfce, which is very similar to GNOME 2 (and also happens to be fairly comfortable for someone coming from

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Filip
On Wed, 21 May 2014 22:31:18 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 5/21/14, Filip wrote: > > On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 > > Stephen Allen wrote: > >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan > >> wrote: > >> > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mos

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/21/14, Filip wrote: > On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 > Stephen Allen wrote: >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: >> > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly >> > terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. >> > so my question i

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 21 May 2014 14:05:55 +0200 Filip sent: > I had the opposite reaction. I didn't instantly dislike it when it > came it, and thought that the detractors where just too close minded > to try out new improved interface concepts. After having used it for > one and a half years however, I have g

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Filip
On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 Stephen Allen wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly > > terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. > > so my question is, are all the applications from

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Stephen Allen
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal > window. i am new to gnome and xfce. > so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be available in > xfce, is it like a layer on the top o

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Thanks Joe, David , Chirs and all . actually login screen step worked for me. even i am also trying xfce4. can i make gnome classic default loging environment? Thanks On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 21 May 2014 13:00:47 +0500 > Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > > do i ha

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2014 13:00:47 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > do i have to uninstall gnome3 in order to work with xfce4 actually i > wanted to run both by enabling one and disabiling other for testing > puporse or to evaluate which one is better for me. > btw i installed xfce4 and restarted th

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread David Dušanić
21.05.2014, 10:00, "Muhammad Yousuf Khan" :do i have to uninstall gnome3 in order to work with xfce4 actually i wanted to run both by enabling one and disabiling other for testing puporse or to evaluate which one is better for me. btw i installed xfce4 and restarted the system however it again gave

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > do i have to uninstall gnome3 in order to work with xfce4 actually i wanted > to run both by enabling one and disabiling other for testing puporse or to > evaluate which one is better for me. > btw i installed xfce4 and restarted the s

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread David Dušanić
21.05.2014, 07:54, "Muhammad Yousuf Khan" :i have just installed debian 7 and i am feeling a bit uncomfortable with the new look ("unity" type) i want the all time old menu "gnome classic". how can i enable that.Thanks,Myk  Log out and choose Gnome Classic from the GDM drop down menu.  -- David Dus

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
do i have to uninstall gnome3 in order to work with xfce4 actually i wanted to run both by enabling one and disabiling other for testing puporse or to evaluate which one is better for me. btw i installed xfce4 and restarted the system however it again gave me the gnome 3 desktop. On Wed, May 21,

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2014 11:57:29 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly > terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. > so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be > available in xfce, is it like a layer on the top of gno

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal > window. i am new to gnome and xfce. > so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be available in > xfce, is it like a layer on the top of gnome

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-20 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be available in xfce, is it like a layer on the top of gnome 3. are all gnome utilities will be available as well? like system moni

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > i have just installed debian 7 and i am feeling a bit uncomfortable with the > new look ("unity" type) i want the all time old menu "gnome classic". how > can i enable that. > I recommend installing Xfce, which is very similar to GNOM

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-20 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/21/14, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > i have just installed debian 7 and i am feeling a bit uncomfortable with > the new look ("unity" type) i want the all time old menu "gnome classic". > how can i enable that. Basically, your options are: 1) Install XFCE desktop apt-cache show xfce4 http://

want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-20 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
i have just installed debian 7 and i am feeling a bit uncomfortable with the new look ("unity" type) i want the all time old menu "gnome classic". how can i enable that. Thanks, Myk