Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-16 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 09:04, Jens Grivolla wrote: > David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > As to why involve exim? You need an MTA installed for cron, etc, > > anyway, so it may as well be exim.. And, although I've never tried to > > set up fetchmail, some have said it was a wee bit more compl

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-16 Thread David
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 03:04:42PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote: > David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > anyway, so it may as well be exim.. And, although I've never tried to > > set up fetchmail, some have said it was a wee bit more complicated than > > exim, dunno about that.. > > Are you saying

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-16 Thread Jens Grivolla
David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As to why involve exim? You need an MTA installed for cron, etc, > anyway, so it may as well be exim.. And, although I've never tried to > set up fetchmail, some have said it was a wee bit more complicated than > exim, dunno about that.. Are you saying you u

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-16 Thread David
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 11:43:22AM -0500, Jamin W.Collins wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:39:18 +0100 Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > This seems very odd. I thought that Debian set up exim more or less by > > default. > > It does, for _delivery_ of mail provided to it. The

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-16 Thread Jens Grivolla
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 04:15:21PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote: > > Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:50:17PM +0100, Pat Colbeck wrote: > > > > "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail || exit 75 #fredsmith" > > > > > > Good to

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 04:15:21PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote: > The explanation was for fetchmail, not exim. And I still don't see > how it would be a good idea to use exim to receive mail on a machine > not usually connected to the Internet. And I still fail to see how it matters. It's not th

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 04:15:21PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote: > Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:50:17PM +0100, Pat Colbeck wrote: > > > "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail || exit 75 #fredsmith" > > > > Good to do it explicitly, but Exim will automatically

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Mark Carroll
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Jamin W.Collins wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:51:59 -0400 (EDT) Mark Carroll > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Then you're using fetchmail, not exim, to receive mail - it's just a > > matter of terminology. (Of course, exim performs the local delivery > > after'receiving'

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Jens Grivolla
Jamin W.Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:51:59 -0400 (EDT) Mark Carroll > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Then you're using fetchmail, not exim, to receive mail - it's just a > > matter of terminology. (Of course, exim performs the local delivery > > after'receiving' fr

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:51:59 -0400 (EDT) Mark Carroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then you're using fetchmail, not exim, to receive mail - it's just a > matter of terminology. (Of course, exim performs the local delivery > after'receiving' from fetchmail - that's quite normal.) Not necessarily,

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 15 Oct 2002, Jamin W.Collins wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:39:18 +0100 Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > This seems very odd. I thought that Debian set up exim more or less by > > default. > > It does, for _delivery_ of mail provided to it. The OP was looking for a > sim

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Mark Carroll
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, David wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:57:25PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote: (snip) > > Obviously it can. But you just don't want to use exim _at all_ to > > receive mail on a machine that is not permanently connected to the > > Internet (unless you really know what you're

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Jens Grivolla
David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:57:25PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote: > > Obviously it can. But you just don't want to use exim _at all_ to > > receive mail on a machine that is not permanently connected to the > > Internet (unless you really know what you're doing).

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Jens Grivolla
Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This seems very odd. I thought that Debian set up exim more or less by > default. Yes, that is because you need _some_ program at least for local mail delivery (system messages and such), although you don't really need a full-featured MTA (mail tran

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:39:18 +0100 Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This seems very odd. I thought that Debian set up exim more or less by > default. It does, for _delivery_ of mail provided to it. The OP was looking for a simple way to deliver and sort mail to local boxes for (pr

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Robert Wilhelm Land
David wrote: > > > There is support for multiple user mailboxes controlled by prefixes or > >     suffixes on the user name, either via the filter mechanism or through > i>     multiple .forward files. > > Exim (or at least 3.35) can distribute mail to different mailboxes. If > I understand som

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread David
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:57:25PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote: > David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Exim (or at least 3.35) can distribute mail to different mailboxes. If > > I understand some of the posters in this thread, they have stated that > > you cannot, but this is what I'm doing. >

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 15 Oct 2002, Mark Carroll wrote: > On 15 Oct 2002, Jens Grivolla wrote: > > > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:57:25PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote: > > > > Obviously it can. But you just don't want to use exim _at all_ to > > > > receive mail on a m

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Jens Grivolla
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:50:17PM +0100, Pat Colbeck wrote: > > "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail || exit 75 #fredsmith" > > Good to do it explicitly, but Exim will automatically deliver using > procmail if you have a ~/.procmailrc The explanation was f

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:50:17PM +0100, Pat Colbeck wrote: > "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail || exit 75 #fredsmith" Good to do it explicitly, but Exim will automatically deliver using procmail if you have a ~/.procmailrc > :0 > * ^TO_.*[EMAIL PROTECTED] > debian-user/ I think it's general

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Jens Grivolla
Mark Carroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 15 Oct 2002, Jens Grivolla wrote: > > When did what change? > > That you need to really know what you're doing to use exim to receive mail > on a machine that is not permanently connected to the Internet, I'd guess, > Paul's implication presumably be

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Mark Carroll
On 15 Oct 2002, Jens Grivolla wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:57:25PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote: > > > Obviously it can. But you just don't want to use exim _at all_ to > > > receive mail on a machine that is not permanently connected to the >

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Jens Grivolla
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:57:25PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote: > > Obviously it can. But you just don't want to use exim _at all_ to > > receive mail on a machine that is not permanently connected to the > > Internet (unless you really know what you're

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:57:25PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote: > Obviously it can. But you just don't want to use exim _at all_ to > receive mail on a machine that is not permanently connected to the > Internet (unless you really know what you're doing). Really? When did this change? I've been

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-15 Thread Jens Grivolla
David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Exim (or at least 3.35) can distribute mail to different mailboxes. If > I understand some of the posters in this thread, they have stated that > you cannot, but this is what I'm doing. Obviously it can. But you just don't want to use exim _at all_ to receiv

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-14 Thread Mark Carroll
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, David wrote: (snip) > Exim (or at least 3.35) can distribute mail to different mailboxes. If > I understand some of the posters in this thread, they have stated that > you cannot, but this is what I'm doing. You will find this info in the > file "filter.txt.gz" in /usr/share

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-14 Thread David
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:01:46PM +0200, Robert Wilhelm Land wrote: > Does exim allow the config. of simple mail delivery > on the following system?: > > -One mashine, connected tmp. to the internet > -one user with only one email adress and >   who likes to have his incoming mail sorted as: >  

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-14 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:01:46 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Wilhelm Land) wrote: > Does exim allow the config. of simple mail delivery > on the following system?: > > -One mashine, connected tmp. to the internet > -one user with only one email adress and >   who likes to have his incoming mail

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-14 Thread Jens Grivolla
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Wilhelm Land) writes: > Jens Grivolla wrote: > > The "only one email address" part makes me think you really want to > > poll an external mailbox using POP3 or IMAP. Exim does not have > > anything to do with this, you need to use fetchmail or a MUA that does > > it. F

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-14 Thread Robert Wilhelm Land
Jens Grivolla wrote: > > So you want to _receive_ mail with exim on a machine that is only > temporarily connected to the internet? > > This is possible if you know what you're doing (and have a permanently > connected machine elsewhere that relays to you). However, it does not > really look li

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-14 Thread Pat Colbeck
I think what you really need is fetchmail and procmail I am afraid. But not to worry a basic setup is not too difficult. Fetchmail To get your mail from a pop3 account create a .fetchmailrc in your home directory that looks like this defaults proto pop3 set daemon 120 poll somemailserver.bigis

Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-14 Thread Jens Grivolla
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Wilhelm Land) writes: > Does exim allow the config. of simple mail delivery > on the following system?: > > -One mashine, connected tmp. to the internet > -one user with only one email adress and >   who likes to have his incoming mail sorted as: >    +one inbox for eac

using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-14 Thread Robert Wilhelm Land
Does exim allow the config. of simple mail delivery on the following system?: -One mashine, connected tmp. to the internet -one user with only one email adress and   who likes to have his incoming mail sorted as:    +one inbox for each subscribed maillist    +one inbox for all the other mail Unf