Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-11-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/10/2014, Curt wrote: > On 2014-10-25, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> which, from my understanding of a previous post or web page, relating >> to Debian 6 LTS, is what is supposed to be in that file, to have >> Debian 6 LTS updating as it should. >> > > What I see here > > https://wiki.debian.org/L

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Bret Busby wrote: > Why a web page published to provide information to the public, needs > to be "https", I have no idea. To create more https traffic. If you only encrypt important things then if it is encrypted them it must be important. An attacker now knows that every piece of encrypted traf

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:37:32PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: > >> > >> :~# df -h > >> FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > ... > >> /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100% /home > > >

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/10/2014, Curt wrote: > On 2014-10-25, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> which, from my understanding of a previous post or web page, relating >> to Debian 6 LTS, is what is supposed to be in that file, to have >> Debian 6 LTS updating as it should. >> > > What I see here > > https://wiki.debian.org/L

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Curt
On 2014-10-25, Bret Busby wrote: > > which, from my understanding of a previous post or web page, relating > to Debian 6 LTS, is what is supposed to be in that file, to have > Debian 6 LTS updating as it should. > What I see here https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using doesn't seem to correspond with

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> :~# df -h >> FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > ... >> /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100% /home > > Can't tell if this is the source of you problems, but I've seen all > sorts

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
Hello, Cindy. On 25/10/2014, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 10/25/14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: >>> >>> :~# df -h >>> FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on >> ... >>> /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100% /home >> >> Can't tell if

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 10/25/14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> :~# df -h >> FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > ... >> /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100% /home > > Can't tell if this is the source of you problems, but I've seen all > sorts of

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: > > :~# df -h > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on ... > /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100% /home Can't tell if this is the source of you problems, but I've seen all sorts of strange failures with a full /home, including X

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/10/14 22:06, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 25/10/14 21:47, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >>> >> >

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 25/10/14 21:47, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >> > >> >> So, now I am confused, as to whether I ma

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 25/10/14 21:17, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >>> On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: > Igor Sverkos wrote: >> As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step whic

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/10/14 21:47, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: > > > So, now I am confused, as to whether I managed to achieve a successful > system update. >

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/10/14 21:17, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >> On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> >>> On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: Igor Sverkos wrote: > As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is taking all > the > time. >>>

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >>> > >>> > Please post the output of >>> > >>> >apt-get update >>> >>> " >>> :~# apt-get update >> >> That looks fine. Please try 'apt-get

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >> > >> > Please post the output of >> > >> >apt-get update >> >> " >> :~# apt-get update > > That looks fine. Please try 'apt-get upgrade'. > " :~# apt-get upgrade E: Could n

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: > > > > Please post the output of > > > >apt-get update > > " > :~# apt-get update That looks fine. Please try 'apt-get upgrade'. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussio

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >>> On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: > Igor Sverkos wrote: >> As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: >> On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> >>> On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: >>> > Igor Sverkos wrote: >>> >> As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is taking all >>> >> the >>> >> time. >>> > >

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Brian wrote: > On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: >> > Igor Sverkos wrote: >> >> As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is taking all >> >> the >> >> time. >> > >> > dpkg has added fsync() calls after all f

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Brian
On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Igor Sverkos wrote: > >> As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is taking all the > >> time. > > > > dpkg has added fsync() calls after all file actions. This > > significantly slows d

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-24 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx wrote: > Igor Sverkos wrote: >> As you can see, it is always the "Unpacking" step which is taking all the >> time. > > dpkg has added fsync() calls after all file actions. This > significantly slows down file operations. Basically it disables the > file system buffer ca

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Rusi Mody
roblem. Daily work is no problem. > > But when it comes to apt/aptitude and installing/updating packages, > > the system is very slow. > > > > Any ideas/hints? > > Install 'eatmydata' and use it when installing. > > apt-get install eatmydata > &g

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Igor Sverkos
Hi, I already read the FAQ, that's why I am already using the "nodelalloc" mount option. I also tried "eatmydata": > # eatmydata annotate-output apt-get install --reinstall tzdata > 14:02:27 I: Started apt-get install --reinstall tzdata > 14:02:27 O: Reading package lists... > 14:02:27 O: Buildi

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 23 oct 14, 08:33:00, Curt wrote: > > What about some of the other workarounds/solutions outlined here > (there)? > > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dpkg/FAQ#User_Questions > > (Q: Why is dpkg so slow when using new filesystems such as btrfs or ext4?) I'd be interested about the 'nodelallo

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-10-23, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > I expect this suggestion to be followed by many people griping that my > suggestion is unsafe and that the years and years we spent living > without fsync() were unsafe. But we did. We had at least a decade of > fast systems in the "before time". And the s

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-22 Thread Bob Proulx
te at disk drive speeds. This is why unpacking files is quite a bit slow. > Everything seems to be fast. Unpacking kernel sources (tar -xaf > linux-3.16.6.tar.xz) is no problem. Daily work is no problem. > But when it comes to apt/aptitude and installing/updating packages, > the system

Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-22 Thread Igor Sverkos
2.436764 > utimes("/usr/share/zoneinfo/right/Etc/GMT+2.dpkg-new", {{1414001610, 0}, > {1412718680, 0}}) = 0 > 43274 1414001632.436785 link("/usr/share/zoneinfo/right/Etc/GMT+2", > "/usr/share/zoneinfo/right/Etc/GMT+2.dpkg-tmp") = 0 > ... Everything s

Re: Updating Packages in Debian Squeeze from Backports/Testing

2011-06-14 Thread Perry Thompson
On 06/14/2011 11:37 AM, Noah Duffy wrote: > I've been running Debian Squeeze for a little while now. I was using > Ubuntu before, so I'm really used to being able to keep certain > software up-to-date using their PPA system. I'm loving Debian (even > though I've had to make a few tweaks for it to

Re: Updating Packages in Debian Squeeze from Backports/Testing

2011-06-14 Thread Noah Duffy
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2011-06-14 21:01 +0200, Noah Duffy wrote: > >> >> I read the guide you posted, and it seems simple enough.  I understand >> it as this: >> >> Let's say I want to "backport" Banshee from Wheezy because it's >> version 2.0.1, I could add the

Re: Updating Packages in Debian Squeeze from Backports/Testing

2011-06-14 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-06-14 21:01 +0200, Noah Duffy wrote: > > I read the guide you posted, and it seems simple enough. I understand > it as this: > > Let's say I want to "backport" Banshee from Wheezy because it's > version 2.0.1, I could add the source repository for wheezy to my > sources, and build that pa

Re: Updating Packages in Debian Squeeze from Backports/Testing

2011-06-14 Thread Noah Duffy
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Jimmy Wu wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 00:35, Camaleón wrote: >> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:37:28 -0500, Noah Duffy wrote: >> >> (...) >> >>> Is it recommended to install packages from testing?  I know this often >>> also updates dependencies that other software m

Re: Updating Packages in Debian Squeeze from Backports/Testing

2011-06-14 Thread Jimmy Wu
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 00:35, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:37:28 -0500, Noah Duffy wrote: > > (...) > >> Is it recommended to install packages from testing?  I know this often >> also updates dependencies that other software may use causing the system >> to potentially not be as secur

Re: Updating Packages in Debian Squeeze from Backports/Testing

2011-06-14 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:37:28 -0500, Noah Duffy wrote: (...) > Is it recommended to install packages from testing? I know this often > also updates dependencies that other software may use causing the system > to potentially not be as secure or stable. I'd say that would depend on the package

Updating Packages in Debian Squeeze from Backports/Testing

2011-06-14 Thread Noah Duffy
I've been running Debian Squeeze for a little while now. I was using Ubuntu before, so I'm really used to being able to keep certain software up-to-date using their PPA system. I'm loving Debian (even though I've had to make a few tweaks for it to work with my new system), but there are a few pac

Re: Updating packages while being able to use the old distributionCDs

2003-03-05 Thread Christian Schoenebeck
On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:04:53 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When I run "apt-get update", Debian logs on to the updates ftp site > (such as ftp.debian.org) and downloads an entirely new list of > packages which overrides the older list. Thus if I install Debian from > CDs and update, I will no lo

Updating packages while being able to use the old distribution CDs

2003-03-04 Thread syuval
When I run "apt-get update", Debian logs on to the updates ftp site (such as ftp.debian.org) and downloads an entirely new list of packages which overrides the older list. Thus if I install Debian from CDs and update, I will no longer be able to use them. Debian will insist on installing any pr

RE: updating packages

2001-02-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 31-Jan-2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi! > I've got a notebook presario 1245, and a pcmcia net adapter. I > need to update the pcmcia modules (I guess, as i had the same problem with > suse 7) in order to make work the net adapter. I guess that if the updates > of pcmcia stuff was avail

updating packages

2001-01-31 Thread mgriffa
Hi! I've got a notebook presario 1245, and a pcmcia net adapter. I need to update the pcmcia modules (I guess, as i had the same problem with suse 7) in order to make work the net adapter. I guess that if the updates of pcmcia stuff was available on suse will be on debian... My ques

Re: XEmacs 21 and updating packages question

2000-09-19 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Omen Wild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have found the pui-package-install-dest-dir variable and set it to > /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ and XEmacs happily installs ^ > packages into that directory. But, and here is the question, how do I > get X

XEmacs 21 and updating packages question

2000-09-18 Thread Omen Wild
Something that has been bothering me for quite a while: someone went through the trouble of making a /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ directory, but then when I use XEmacs' built in package updating I overwrite the packages that Debian installs. This just doesn't seem right. I have found th

Re: problems while updating packages with dpkg

1998-02-25 Thread Adrian Bridgett
ome friends the Debian 1.3.1. release. > Eagerly :-) I began updating packages, installing this, purging that,... > > In the middle of the fun, it ocurred to me that it could be interesting > to have the new dpkg package(s) on my system. So I installed > dpkg1.4.0.8.deb, dpkg_cr

problems while updating packages with dpkg

1998-02-24 Thread José
Hello, Sometime ago I got the Debian GNU/Linux 1.1.4.Sept96 release. Working with it, I managed to set up my little system at home.(I was very proud of myself ;-)). Two months ago, I borrowed from some friends the Debian 1.3.1. release. Eagerly :-) I began updating packages, installing this

updating packages with dselect

1997-05-06 Thread Lacharme Jean-Paul
Hi, I would just update my installed packages with deselect, but the procedure to do so doesn't seem very clear to me. All that I get is 0 packages to load. What is wrong ? Regards, JP L Jean-Paul LACHARME. GREQAM UMR 9990 au CNRS, Centre de la Vieille Charite, 2,rue de la Charite,F13002 MARSEIL

Re: updating packages with dpkg

1997-01-16 Thread Adam Shand
>> What I want is a way comparing what is currently installed (dpkg -l) with >> what is available on my local mirror. > >I believe the package you are looking for is dftp (not to be confused >with dpkg-ftp). Hmm, I think you're correct. It seems pretty bare bones but it will hopefully do the tr

Re: updating packages with dpkg

1997-01-16 Thread Vociferous Mole
On Jan 16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam Shand) wrote: > What I want is a way comparing what is currently installed (dpkg -l) with > what is available on my local mirror. > I believe the package you are looking for is dftp (not to be confused with dpkg-ftp). Steve Greenland -- The Mole - I think,

updating packages with dpkg

1997-01-16 Thread Adam Shand
Hi, I have been updating packages by manually ftping them from ftp.debian.org and putting them in a directory which I have nfs exported to the other three machines. I have then been running dpkg -i manually to install the packages I want updated. I was just about to write a script to do a