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On 05/29/08 20:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/29/08 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
>>>
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
>>>
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On 05/29/08 20:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/29/08 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
>>>
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
>>>
I wrote:
> IIRC the numbers did not have to be sequential. That is, you could use 10
> 20 30 ... and then replace 20 with 15, 20, and 25 when you made a change.
> The card sorter just put the cards in ascending order.
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> Isn't that where line numbers came from? Since each
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 04:47:50PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > IIRC, each [FORTRAN punch] card had a sequence number.
>
> Paul Scott writes:
> > That a choice which got in the way of the development stage. Who wanted
> > to punch a whole new deck for each small change
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> IIRC, each [FORTRAN punch] card had a sequence number.
Paul Scott writes:
> That a choice which got in the way of the development stage. Who wanted
> to punch a whole new deck for each small change?
IIRC the numbers did not have to be sequential. That is, you could us
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 06:54:42PM +1000, Adrian Levi wrote:
>
>> 2008/5/30 Russell L. Harris :
>>
>>> I speak of the days of Fortran-II running on an IBM 1620. Back then,
>>> it often was necessary to load the compiler (another deck of punched
>>> cards) before l
There are more intelligent text editors for Window$ than notepad.
Try using one called Textpad. http://www.textpad.com . It intelligently
detects if the file was saved on a Unix, windows, or Mac system and
correctly displays the contents. I am registered user of Textpad from
days when I used to do
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 08:57:42AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Doug writes:
> >> IIRC, each card had a sequence number. I don't know if they had
> >> card-sorter machines.
> >
> > Yes, of course we had sorters. Card sorting machines are much older than
> > computers: it's what punch cards
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On 05/31/08 19:16, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 01:01:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/30/08 21:17, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> However, I'm of the opinion firmly that the lessons and skills learned
>>> in those ti
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 01:01:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/30/08 21:17, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > However, I'm of the opinion firmly that the lessons and skills learned
> > in those times which became the mainframe culture gives rise to a
> > different type of sysadmin tha
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On 05/30/08 21:17, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
[snip]
>
> However, I'm of the opinion firmly that the lessons and skills learned
> in those times which became the mainframe culture gives rise to a
> different type of sysadmin than unix does. Even in the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doug writes:
IIRC, each card had a sequence number. I don't know if they had
card-sorter machines.
Yes, of course we had sorters. Card sorting machines are much older than
computers: it's what punch cards were invented for. Ask Wikipedia to tell
you about
> Larry Owens wrote:
>> I also remember when one had to put two STOP bits at the end of each
>> ASCII
>> character transmitted to allow the print ball time to return to its
>> resting position in advance of the next character
>
> That's not the reason for using two stop bits.
> --
> John Hasler
>
J
> Doug writes:
>> IIRC, each card had a sequence number. I don't know if they had
>> card-sorter machines.
>
> Yes, of course we had sorters. Card sorting machines are much older than
> computers: it's what punch cards were invented for. Ask Wikipedia to tell
> you about Herman Hollerith. Don't
John Hasler wrote:
Doug writes:
IIRC, each card had a sequence number. I don't know if they had
card-sorter machines.
Yes, of course we had sorters. Card sorting machines are much older than
computers: it's what punch cards were invented for. Ask Wikipedia to tell
you about Herman H
Larry Owens wrote:
> I also remember when one had to put two STOP bits at the end of each ASCII
> character transmitted to allow the print ball time to return to its
> resting position in advance of the next character
That's not the reason for using two stop bits.
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Doug writes:
> IIRC, each card had a sequence number. I don't know if they had
> card-sorter machines.
Yes, of course we had sorters. Card sorting machines are much older than
computers: it's what punch cards were invented for. Ask Wikipedia to tell
you about Herman Hollerith. Don't you kids s
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 08:49:07AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I also remember when one had to put two STOP bits at the end of each ASCII
> character transmitted to allow the print ball time to return to its
> resting position in advance of the next character
> Larry Owens
> >
Yeah, and it
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 06:54:42PM +1000, Adrian Levi wrote:
> 2008/5/30 Russell L. Harris :
> > I speak of the days of Fortran-II running on an IBM 1620. Back then,
> > it often was necessary to load the compiler (another deck of punched
> > cards) before loading the application.
>
> It must hav
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:35:41AM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> * Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080529 23:28]:
> Back about 1967, the ASR33 was coveted by those of us whose only means
> of input and output was the 80-column punch card.
>
> "Output?", you say? Yes. For printed outp
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 05:56:43AM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
>> I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
>> open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
>> having a characte
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/29/08 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
>>>
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
having a charact
> Andrew Reid wrote:
>> On Thursday 29 May 2008 21:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, it dates back further than that, to ASR33 teletype machines,
>>> where you needed to issue separate carriage return and line feed
>>> characters to end a line - to i) physically return the carriage to the
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 05:56:43AM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
> open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
> having a character in place of line break. Is there any way in echo
> and cat commands usage
Adrian Levi wrote:
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2008/5/30 Russell L. Harris :
I speak of the days of Fortran-II running on an IBM 1620. Back then,
it often was necessary to load the compiler (another deck of punched
cards) before loading the application.
It must have
Adrian writes:
> It must have been fun to watch someone play pickup 500 and put them all
> back in order again.
That's what the card sorter was for.
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* Adrian Levi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080530 03:56]:
> 2008/5/30 Russell L. Harris :
> > I speak of the days of Fortran-II running on an IBM 1620. Back then,
> > it often was necessary to load the compiler (another deck of punched
> > cards) before loading the application.
>
> It must have been fun
# IN UNIX ENVIRONMENT: convert Unix newlines (LF) to DOS format
sed "s/$/`echo -e \\\r`/"# command line under ksh
sed 's/$'"/`echo \\\r`/" # command line under bash
sed "s/$/`echo \\\r`/" # command line under zsh
sed 's/$/\r/'# gsed
Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/29/08 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
>>>
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line brea
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2008/5/30 Russell L. Harris :
> I speak of the days of Fortran-II running on an IBM 1620. Back then,
> it often was necessary to load the compiler (another deck of punched
> cards) before loading the application.
It must have been fun to watch someon
* Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080529 23:28]:
...
> Actually, it dates back further than that, to ASR33 teletype machines,
> where you needed to issue separate carriage return and line feed
> characters to end a line - to i) physically return the carriage to the
> beginning of the line, a
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On 05/29/08 20:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/29/08 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
>>>
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
>>>
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:26 PM, L. V. Gandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
> open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
> having a character in place of line break. Is there any way in echo
> and cat
Andrew Reid wrote:
On Thursday 29 May 2008 21:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Actually, it dates back further than that, to ASR33 teletype machines,
where you needed to issue separate carriage return and line feed
characters to end a line - to i) physically return the carriage to the
beginning of t
On Thursday 29 May 2008, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Actually, it dates back further than that, to ASR33 teletype
> machines, where you needed to issue separate carriage return
> and line feed characters to end a line - to i) physically
> return the carriage to the beginning of the line, and ii)
> feed
On Thursday 29 May 2008 21:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Since 90% of all computers are DOS/Windows, and got that method from
> > CP/M, which did it that way back in 1976/77, your "gratuitously
> > different" comment is absurdly wrong.
>
> Actually, it dates back further than
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/29/08 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
having a character in place of line
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On 05/29/08 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
>> I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
>> open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
>> having a
On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
> open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
> having a character in place of line break. Is there any way in echo
> and cat commands usage to put
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
having a character in place of line break. Is there any way in echo
and cat commands usage to put windows line break?
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