On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 14:59:12 -0400, Doug wrote:
> On 10/16/2014 02:33 PM, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 13:12:12 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
>
> /snip/
>
> >
> > The technique given by Jonathan Dowland works and appears to me to
> > involve a minimal amount of work for someone wanting to
Brian wrote:
On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 13:12:12 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Brian wrote:
There is no preseed command which can alter this.
It may be that adding --include=sysvinit-core to debootstrap will cause
the other branch of that dependency to be taken. I have not tested it.
If that is the case
On 10/16/2014 02:33 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 13:12:12 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
/snip/
>
> The technique given by Jonathan Dowland works and appears to me to
> involve a minimal amount of work for someone wanting to end up booting a
> new install with sysvinit. Depending on what is
On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 13:12:12 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> >
> > There is no preseed command which can alter this.
>
> It may be that adding --include=sysvinit-core to debootstrap will cause
> the other branch of that dependency to be taken. I have not tested it.
> If that is the ca
Joey Hess wrote:
Brian wrote:
I'd suggest that the principal udeb package to consider as responsible
for installing the base system is bootstrap-base. It runs debootstrap.
Debian Policy specifies the base packages as being of Priority: required
and Priority: important.
You can get lists of thes
On 2014-10-16 19:12 +0200, Joey Hess wrote:
> Brian wrote:
>>
>> The init package is Priority: required. It pre-depends on
>>
>>systemd-sysv | sysvinit-core | upstart
>>
>> The first alternative is systemd-sysv, which pre-depends on systemd.
>>
>> There is no preseed command which can alte
Brian wrote:
> I'd suggest that the principal udeb package to consider as responsible
> for installing the base system is bootstrap-base. It runs debootstrap.
> Debian Policy specifies the base packages as being of Priority: required
> and Priority: important.
>
> You can get lists of these packag
Brian wrote:
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 21:47:45 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Brian wrote:
I'd suggest that the principal udeb package to consider as responsible
for installing the base system is bootstrap-base. It runs debootstrap.
Debian Policy specifies the base packages as being of Priority: re
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 21:47:45 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> >
> >I'd suggest that the principal udeb package to consider as responsible
> >for installing the base system is bootstrap-base. It runs debootstrap.
> >Debian Policy specifies the base packages as being of Priority: requ
Brian wrote:
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 15:34:40 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
So where in base system is systemd installed?
This is the list of packages in base (from the source for the jessie
version of debian-installer/build/pkg-lists/base as of yesterday):
[A little snipping]
I'd suggest that
Brian wrote:
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 15:34:40 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
So where in base system is systemd installed?
This is the list of packages in base (from the source for the jessie
version of debian-installer/build/pkg-lists/base as of yesterday):
[A little snipping]
I'd suggest that
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 15:34:40 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> So where in base system is systemd installed?
>
> This is the list of packages in base (from the source for the jessie
> version of debian-installer/build/pkg-lists/base as of yesterday):
[A little snipping]
I'd suggest that the prin
On Mi, 15 oct 14, 12:29:23, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> 3. Is there a way to list all packages with priority "standard" -
> preferably via the package repo or one of the staging servers rather
> than having to first setup up a jessie installation and pulling in the
> source list?
You don't need
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 03:34:40PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Thoughts?
I'm drawing blanks at the moment, but I'm glad you are looking at this.
I'll see if I can poke about a bit Tomorrow.
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Thanks Brian.
See follow-up question embedded below.
Brian wrote:
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 12:29:23 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
any thoughts re. conflicts between what's in, say
tasksel tasksel/first standard, web-server
and
d-i pkgsel/include string sysvinit-core systemd-shim
I don't believe
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 12:29:23 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> any thoughts re. conflicts between what's in, say
>
> tasksel tasksel/first standard, web-server
> and
> d-i pkgsel/include string sysvinit-core systemd-shim
I don't believe there are any. I think what happens is that standard
and web
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 07:49:08AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
1. There is now an essential metapackage called init that depends on
one of systemd-sysv, or sysvinit-core, or upstart. (parenthetical
question: What distinguishes a metapackage from a virtual package?
Or p
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 07:49:08AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> 1. There is now an essential metapackage called init that depends on
> one of systemd-sysv, or sysvinit-core, or upstart. (parenthetical
> question: What distinguishes a metapackage from a virtual package?
> Or perhaps, more precis
Folks,
So, it's been suggested here that one might write a preseed file to
install sysvinit-core instead of systemd - but for the life of me, I
can't figure out how to do that.
What I've been able to determine so far:
1. There is now an essential metapackage called init that depends on one
On Mon 22 Sep 2014 at 12:07:19 +0200, Hans wrote:
> I changed to systemd and everything is working fine.
>
> As deborphan wants to deinstall the package sysvinit, it warns, it is a
> essentiell package.
"Priority: optional" on unstable.
>
> My question: Can package sysvinit safely removed, whe
On 9/22/14, Hans wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I changed to systemd and everything is working fine.
>
> As deborphan wants to deinstall the package sysvinit, it warns, it is a
> essentiell package.
>
> My question: Can package sysvinit safely removed, when systemd is working
> fine?
>
> Looks like system
Hi folks,
I changed to systemd and everything is working fine.
As deborphan wants to deinstall the package sysvinit, it warns, it is a
essentiell package.
My question: Can package sysvinit safely removed, when systemd is working fine?
Looks like systemd does not depend on sysvinit.
Cheers
Ha
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