Re: printer replacement

2024-09-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 02 Sep 2024 15:04:40 +0100 Steve McIntyre wrote: Hello Steve, >expensive ink and toner lockin thing is a good reason to never give HP >money again. There has been lock in in the past (more than once, IIRC) but I use 3rd party ink carts in my machine without issue. The so-called subscrip

Re: printer replacement

2024-09-01 Thread Pedro Francisco
A quinta, 29/08/2024, 23:28, Gerard ROBIN escreveu: > > > I want to buy is the "HP OfficeJet Pro 8134e All-ine-One" > DON'T!!! e-suffix means it only works with HP Instank Ink program (as in: it requires a monthly subscription). >

Re: printer replacement

2024-09-01 Thread lst7cqtfws
DON'T!!! e-suffix means it only works with HP Instank Ink program (as in: it requires a monthly subscription). A sábado, 31/08/2024, 17:24, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. escreveu: > On Friday 30 August 2024 06:33:46 pm e...@gmx.us wrote: > > On 8/30/24 09:50, Loris Bennett wrote: > > > Gerard ROBIN wr

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-31 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Friday 30 August 2024 06:33:46 pm e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 8/30/24 09:50, Loris Bennett wrote: > > Gerard ROBIN writes: > > > > However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have > > always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance rigmarole > > and use up half

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-31 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 17:06:55 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: Hello jeremy, >The bigger picture is that personal printing is on the way out because The bigger picture may well be the case(1), but irrelevant to the point I was making: Four trips to the print shop, and I'm out of pocket. In fairness,

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-31 Thread jeremy ardley
On 31/8/24 15:26, Brad Rogers wrote: What about the time (and, therefore, cost) of getting to/from the print shop? Time alone (for me) would add £22.88 (at minimum wage) to the cost of any print job. Factor in fuel costs, parking fees, vehicle wear and tear and depreciation, and suddenly tha

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-31 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 08:23:20 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: Hello jeremy, >I find the cost per page at the >big-box stores is roughly the same as the amortised cost per page of a >personal laser printer. What about the time (and, therefore, cost) of getting to/from the print shop? Time alone (fo

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-30 Thread jeremy ardley
On 31/8/24 08:04, George at Clug wrote: On Saturday, 31-08-2024 at 08:33e...@gmx.us wrote: On 8/30/24 09:50, Loris Bennett wrote: Gerard ROBIN writes: However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance rigm

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-30 Thread George at Clug
On Saturday, 31-08-2024 at 08:33 e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 8/30/24 09:50, Loris Bennett wrote: > > Gerard ROBIN writes: > > > > However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have > > always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance rigmarole > > and use up half a

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-30 Thread Tom Dial
On 8/29/24 16:27, Gerard ROBIN wrote: Hello, my old hp ptotosmart printer died. It worked fine with HPLIP. Now I have to buy a new one but they all use "HP Smart" for Windows exclusively. I would like to know if these printers are still compatible with HPLIP. The printer I want to buy is the "

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-30 Thread eben
On 8/30/24 09:50, Loris Bennett wrote: Gerard ROBIN writes: However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance rigmarole and use up half a dozen sheets just to print a single page :-/ Yeah, that's why I swore o

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-30 Thread Roger Price
On Fri, 30 Aug 2024, Loris Bennett wrote: However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have always dried up ... I had an excellent Epson Stylus Color 640, later a HP deskjet 845c and a HP Officejet Pro K550. All they do now is gather dust. I print less and less, and wh

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-30 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Friday 30 August 2024 09:50:58 am Loris Bennett wrote: > However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have > always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance rigmarole > and use up half a dozen sheets just to print a single page :-/ That's a lot of why I don'

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-30 Thread gene heskett
On 8/30/24 09:29, Gerard ROBIN wrote: Le Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 06:49:41AM +0100, Brad Rogers a écrit : Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 06:49:41 +0100 From: Brad Rogers To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Debian Users ML Subject: Re: printer replacement X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-30 Thread Van Snyder
On Fri, 2024-08-30 at 15:50 +0200, Loris Bennett wrote: > I subsequently bought an Epson, which also works fine with Debian. > However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles > have > always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance > rigmarole > and use up half a do

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-30 Thread Van Snyder
On Fri, 2024-08-30 at 15:28 +0200, Gerard ROBIN wrote: > I tried to configure the HP Smart Tank 7006 printer but it > was impossible: HPLIP is not suitable, CUPS does not see the printer, > avahi > does not either. The Linux driver for this printer is missing. > Finally I > returned it and now I'm

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-30 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 6:28 PM Gerard ROBIN wrote: > > my old hp ptotosmart printer died. It worked fine with HPLIP. Now I have to > buy a new one but they all use "HP Smart" for Windows exclusively. I would > like to know if these printers are still compatible with HPLIP. The printer > I want to

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-30 Thread Loris Bennett
Gerard ROBIN writes: > Le Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 06:49:41AM +0100, Brad Rogers a écrit : >> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 06:49:41 +0100 >> From: Brad Rogers >> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> Cc: Debian Users ML >> Subject: Re: printer replacement >> X-S

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:28:30 +0200 Gerard ROBIN wrote: Hello Gerard, >thanks for your reply. Sorry for sending this useless email. I had No worries. >forgotten that I was no longer registered on the debian-user list and >when I didn't get One need not be subscribed to this list to post to i

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-30 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 06:49:41AM +0100, Brad Rogers a écrit : > Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 06:49:41 +0100 > From: Brad Rogers > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Cc: Debian Users ML > Subject: Re: printer replacement > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:27:39 +0200 Gerard ROBIN wrote: Hello Gerard, I suspect this will fall on deaf ears, but hear goes.. >tia. Four people replied to this exact same question when you asked it yesterday. Please read them. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{spac

printer replacement

2024-08-29 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Hello, my old hp ptotosmart printer died. It worked fine with HPLIP. Now I have to buy a new one but they all use "HP Smart" for Windows exclusively. I would like to know if these printers are still compatible with HPLIP. The printer I want to buy is the "HP OfficeJet Pro 8134e All-ine-One" which

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-29 Thread Van Snyder
On Thu, 2024-08-29 at 14:41 +0200, Gerard ROBIN wrote: > Hello, > my old hp ptotosmart printer died. It worked fine with HPLIP. Now I > have to > buy a new one but they all use "HP Smart" for Windows exclusively. I > would > like to know if these printers are still compatible with HPLIP. The > prin

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:41:45 +0200 Gerard ROBIN wrote: Hello Gerard, >e "HP Smart" for Windows exclusivel HP Smart is available for Android (and probably iOS). With a suitable 'phone you can set up an HP printer. It's how I did it here. Different model, but even so. Once set up, you can

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-29 Thread Frank Weißer
Hi Gerard, HPLIP stands for hp-linux-imaging-and-printing ^ and isn't made for other OSs. Lock here> https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index for compatibility of your new printer. Kind regards Frank Gerard ROBIN: Hello, my old

Re: printer replacement

2024-08-29 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:41:45 +0200 Gerard ROBIN wrote: > my old hp ptotosmart printer died. It worked fine with HPLIP. Now I > have to buy a new one but they all use "HP Smart" for Windows > exclusively. I would like to know if these printers are still > compatible with HPLIP. The printer I want

printer replacement

2024-08-29 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Hello, my old hp ptotosmart printer died. It worked fine with HPLIP. Now I have to buy a new one but they all use "HP Smart" for Windows exclusively. I would like to know if these printers are still compatible with HPLIP. The printer I want to buy is the "HP OfficeJet Pro 8134e All-ine-One" which i

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-10-04 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 16:41:45 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: > I have an HP Officejet Pro L7700, which is starting to show its age. > Also HP has discontinued the standard size cartridges. I can get the > large ones. I suspect I could buy a printer for what four large > cartridges would cost me. Wel

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-22 Thread Douglas McGarrett
On 9/17/21 6:41 PM, Charles Curley wrote: I have an HP Officejet Pro L7700, which is starting to show its age. Also HP has discontinued the standard size cartridges. I can get the large ones. I suspect I could buy a printer for what four large cartridges would cost me. Requirements: * I prin

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-19 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
Le 18/09/2021 à 17:20, James H. H. Lampert a écrit : On 9/18/21 2:00 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: The direction of travel for printing is entirely driverless, so this is less important than it used to be. Really? If true, that is exceptionally good news. The last time I looked at new printers,

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-18 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 9/18/21 2:19 AM, Jeremy Ardley wrote: My experience is that toner does degrade over a period of years. To get full life you need to use your advertised pages within a year or so. Agreed. I've seen toner cartridges go bad. Of course, they had been sitting on a shelf for *many* years. -- JH

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-18 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 9/18/21 2:00 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: The direction of travel for printing is entirely driverless, so this is less important than it used to be. Really? If true, that is exceptionally good news. The last time I looked at new printers, the "direction of travel" was entirely driver-depend

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-18 Thread Fred
On 9/18/21 2:00 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 10:38:03AM +0200, Klaus Singvogel wrote: Charles Curley wrote: I print rarely. Inkjet or laser? Or other? The carts on the L7700 tend to go bad before they empty, Rarely printing? I would suggest a laser I agree. Toner does

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-18 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 04:38:27PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > I have an HP Officejet Pro L7700, which is starting to show its age. > Also HP has discontinued the standard size cartridges. I can get the > large ones. > > First question: > > I print rarely. Inkjet or laser? Or other? The carts

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-18 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 18/9/21 5:00 pm, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 10:38:03AM +0200, Klaus Singvogel wrote: Charles Curley wrote: I print rarely. Inkjet or laser? Or other? The carts on the L7700 tend to go bad before they empty, Rarely printing? I would suggest a laser I agree. Toner doe

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 10:38:03AM +0200, Klaus Singvogel wrote: Charles Curley wrote: I print rarely. Inkjet or laser? Or other? The carts on the L7700 tend to go bad before they empty, Rarely printing? I would suggest a laser I agree. Toner doesn't spoil sat there doing nothing for long pe

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-18 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Charles Curley wrote: > I print rarely. Inkjet or laser? Or other? The carts on the L7700 tend > to go bad before they empty, Rarely printing? I would suggest a laser, even if the price for printouts is higher. Brand? The situation current is this, that only HP released their printer drivers as

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-18 Thread mick crane
On 2021-09-17 23:41, Charles Curley wrote: I have an HP Officejet Pro L7700, which is starting to show its age. Also HP has discontinued the standard size cartridges. I can get the large ones. I suspect I could buy a printer for what four large cartridges would cost me. Requirements: * I print

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-17 Thread deloptes
Dan Ritter wrote: > If you print in black/white more often than you need color, you could > still use a local print shop or get things mailed to you for those > occasions - photos and posters, especially, but basically any document. > > In that case, get a monochrome laser printer. I recommend a

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-17 Thread James H. H. Lampert
Personally, I wouldn't accept an inkjet as a gift. You use them like crazy, and you go through absurdly overpriced cartridges like crazy. You *don't* use them like crazy, and those absurdly overpriced cartridges clog, and you still go through them like crazy. And the pages come out soggy, and a

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-17 Thread jeremy ardley
On 18/09/2021 7:05 am, Dan Ritter wrote: Charles Curley wrote: Requirements: * I print rarely, and I do use color. The carts on the L7700 tend to go bad before they empty, Inkjet or laser? Or other? * Buster and Bullseye should both support any recommendations. I don't use Windows. I'

Re: Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Charles Curley wrote: > Requirements: > > * I print rarely, and I do use color. The carts on the L7700 tend to > go bad before they empty, Inkjet or laser? Or other? > > * Buster and Bullseye should both support any recommendations. I don't > use Windows. > > I've had good results with HP o

Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-17 Thread Charles Curley
I have an HP Officejet Pro L7700, which is starting to show its age. Also HP has discontinued the standard size cartridges. I can get the large ones. First question: I print rarely. Inkjet or laser? Or other? The carts on the L7700 tend to go bad before they empty, -- Does anybody read signatu

Your Thoughts on Printer Replacement

2021-09-17 Thread Charles Curley
I have an HP Officejet Pro L7700, which is starting to show its age. Also HP has discontinued the standard size cartridges. I can get the large ones. I suspect I could buy a printer for what four large cartridges would cost me. Requirements: * I print rarely, and I do use color. The carts on the