Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-22 Thread Johann Spies
I can open http://www.healingwiththemasters.com/ with elinks but not with lynx or links. Regards Johann.

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-09-15 15:34:10 -0500, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/UTF-8#links_and_elinks And concerning elinks, it supports UTF-8 by default (I don't have any config file for elinks), so no need to set a special config as mentioned on this page. -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web:

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-09-15 15:34:10 -0500, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > >On 2016-09-15 12:29:50 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > >Links does not support UTF-8. The other ones do. > > Where is the support for that conclusion? It appears to be incorrect.[1] > > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/UTF-8#links_and_eli

Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:43:02PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi Dutch, > I am not sure I agree with the java script focus. after all that site will > work in lynx, when I turn off the send user agent header option, just like I > suggested to Hans. > why would it work in a non graphical envir

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread jeremy bentham
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:18:59PM +0200, Hans wrote: > Hi list, > > can someone explain, why lynx sometimes forbid websites or supresses websites? > > I needed a driver from Nvidia. As I had no X available, I tried download > using > lynx. Many sites block lynx, because it can be used as a c

Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi Dutch, I am not sure I agree with the java script focus. after all that site will work in lynx, when I turn off the send user agent header option, just like I suggested to Hans. why would it work in a non graphical environment with lynx, if I take the above referenced step if Java script

Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 07:57:27PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi Dutch, > > Something told me to try my example again before I shared it, try this in > links. > > www.healingwiththemasters.com > I just tried and got the 403 forbidden error. Yes, I get the same thing. Note that if you turn

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread davidson
On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Hans wrote: Hi Karen, I tried as you described. However, this showed me the word "Treiber" but your better hint was the one with the letter "l". That way I can see, these links are hidden and could navigate to it (it is letter 107 here). In my lynx environment one must us

Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi Dutch, Something told me to try my example again before I shared it, try this in links. www.healingwiththemasters.com I just tried and got the 403 forbidden error. As for Walmart.com allowing the links browser, I am afraid that matters not as I am in Canada and my reference is to the Ca

Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 06:55:25PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi Dutch, > The forbidden site issue I encounter is not the one Hans referenced, but > others. > take > masterworkshealing.com I can visit that site with links. > for example, > So the idea would be an option that I could change,

Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi Dutch, The forbidden site issue I encounter is not the one Hans referenced, but others. take masterworkshealing.com for example, So the idea would be an option that I could change, as I directed Hans to make a short term change to the send user agent header one in lynx. I realize natural

Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 04:47:01PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi Dutch, > Still, that brings up two questions of my own regarding links. > first, does the browser still not accept cookies? I'm not sure of your definition of "accept," but in the general sense links does not store and set cookie

Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi Dutch, Actually I got that information from a Google staffer working with accessibility. Such was why, at the time, gmail stopped working with links. they have changed that factor though, and links often produces more detailed search results than lynx. I appreciate your providing this cor

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Dutch Ingraham
>On 2016-09-15 12:29:50 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >Links does not support UTF-8. The other ones do. Where is the support for that conclusion? It appears to be incorrect.[1] [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/UTF-8#links_and_elinks

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread David Wright
On Thu 15 Sep 2016 at 11:08:25 (+0200), Hans wrote: > Hi Andre, > > To the OP : both sites (and the links under "Drivers") work with > > Elinks as far as I can see. > yes, elinks is working well and let me download the drivers. But that did not > answer my question, why lynx ignored the links. I

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:47:14AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Links is no longer updated, Where did you get this information? As far as I can see, links was updated on July 1, 2016.[1][2] Does that qualify as "no longer updated"? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser) [2]

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi Hans, lynx no more suppresses site content, than a monitor refuses to show material. All lynx can do is give you what the site designer has used in their code. If the person drafting the site decides to use techniques that do not respond to the keyboard, do not create active links try t

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Hans
Hi Karen, I tried as you described. However, this showed me the word "Treiber" but your better hint was the one with the letter "l". That way I can see, these links are hidden and could navigate to it (it is letter 107 here). Gowever, it does not explain, why lynx suppresses these. Ok, these are

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Karen Lewellen
On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Hans wrote: Am Mittwoch, 14. September 2016, 20:06:40 CEST schrieb Karen Lewellen: Hi Karen, thanks for your hint! This is working. Deactivating sending the agent, let me read the site. However, still there is the problem, that I cannot step to submenus on the site. If one

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Karen Lewellen
On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Curt wrote: On 2016-09-14, Jude DaShiell wrote: One of these days, I'd like to put a website up and permit only text browsers like links and lynx and edbrowse full access and either block all of the graphical browsers or simply cause all of them to crash. That's the sp

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Karen Lewellen
On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Andre Majorel wrote: To the OP : both sites (and the links under "Drivers") work with Elinks as far as I can see. I must say, it baffles me that Lynx continues to get more mentions than Elinks, Links and W3m together even though they render HTML at least as well and usuall

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Curt
On 2016-09-14, Jude DaShiell wrote: > One of these days, I'd like to put a website up and permit only text > browsers like links and lynx and edbrowse full access and either block > all of the graphical browsers or simply cause all of them to crash. > That's the spirit. An eye for an eye is wha

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-09-15 10:47:55 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: > I must say, it baffles me that Lynx continues to get more > mentions than Elinks, Links and W3m together even though they > render HTML at least as well and usually better that Lynx. Or > have things changed in recent years ? Links does not supp

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2016-09-15 11:08 +0200, Hans wrote: > Due to your suggestion, I tried elinks. For my personal taste > I like the colour setting of lynx more. My Elinks have colour disabled so use the xterm's colours (in my case, black text on white-ish background). I often end up doing this as most terminal a

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Jude DaShiell
cally for accessibility reasons. He wasn't blind from birth either. On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Andre Majorel wrote: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 04:47:55 From: Andre Majorel To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: lynx - not all sites readable Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 08:48:30 + (UTC) R

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Hans
Hi Andre, > To the OP : both sites (and the links under "Drivers") work with > Elinks as far as I can see. yes, elinks is working well and let me download the drivers. But that did not answer my question, why lynx ignored the links. > I must say, it baffles me that Lynx continues to get more > m

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-15 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2016-09-14 17:46 -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 05:06:29PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > One of these days, I'd like to put a website up and permit only text > > browsers like links and lynx and edbrowse full access and either > > block all of the graphical browsers o

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-14 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 14. September 2016, 20:06:40 CEST schrieb Karen Lewellen: Hi Karen, thanks for your hint! This is working. Deactivating sending the agent, let me read the site. However, still there is the problem, that I cannot step to submenus on the site. If one wants to see, what I mean: go to

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-14 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi, Forgive this not being in context. If you are using the most current development edition of Lynx from April 25 of this year and you are reaching sites that present a message like the following, 403 forbidden, I suggest you try the following. open the options menu and arrow down to the item

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-14 Thread David Wright
On Wed 14 Sep 2016 at 17:46:31 (-0400), Henning Follmann wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 05:06:29PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > One of these days, I'd like to put a website up and permit only text > > browsers like links and lynx and edbrowse full access and either > > block all of the graphic

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-14 Thread emetib
personally i prefer links just seems to work better. especially if you install gpm also. make a great combo for terminal only browsing. henning -> because it would be fun. i've had to browse forums before using a text only browser trying to fix my X. it will make you a happy camper to have

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-14 Thread Brian
On Wed 14 Sep 2016 at 22:26:08 +0200, Hans wrote: > Correction: > > However, I could open www.nvidia.com, but could not jump to the submenu > > alled "Treiber". Then I tried to go to www.nvidia.de, but lynx told me, > > "This site is forbidden". > > > Must be: > www.nvidia.de could be opened >

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-14 Thread Henning Follmann
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 05:06:29PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > One of these days, I'd like to put a website up and permit only text > browsers like links and lynx and edbrowse full access and either > block all of the graphical browsers or simply cause all of them to > crash. > That is stupid, p

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-14 Thread Jude DaShiell
Jude DaShiell To: Hans , debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: lynx - not all sites readable Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 21:03:51 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org lynx isn't suppressing or forbidding anything! The sites you visit are doing all of that bl

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-14 Thread Jude DaShiell
lynx isn't suppressing or forbidding anything! The sites you visit are doing all of that blocking and forbidding. On Wed, 14 Sep 2016, Hans wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 16:18:59 From: Hans To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: lynx - not all sites readable Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Sep

Re: lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-14 Thread Hans
Correction: > However, I could open www.nvidia.com, but could not jump to the submenu > alled "Treiber". Then I tried to go to www.nvidia.de, but lynx told me, > "This site is forbidden". > Must be: www.nvidia.de could be opened www.nvidia.com was forbidden. Sorry for that. Hans

lynx - not all sites readable

2016-09-14 Thread Hans
Hi list, can someone explain, why lynx sometimes forbid websites or supresses websites? I needed a driver from Nvidia. As I had no X available, I tried download using lynx. However, I could open www.nvidia.com, but could not jump to the submenu alled "Treiber". Then I tried to go to www.nvidi