Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2018-05-07 Thread deloptes
Martin Steigerwald wrote: > I think mainly Akonadi, Nepomuk, Plasma, a bit also Phonon needs > quite some more stabilization and performance work. After 10years - those basic applications still cause problems ... and you call it "more stabilization and performance work" ... come on - jokes. The

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2018-05-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Sune Vuorela: > On 2010-05-06, Curt Howland wrote: > > On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say: > >> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote: > >> > Maybe use dummy packages, or renam

Re: easiest workaround for oom_adj to oom_score_adj transition (new kernels and kdeinit from KDE 3.5)

2012-10-13 Thread Arthur Marsh
Arthur Marsh wrote, on 13/10/12 21:43: After some tinkering and using archive.debian.org I was able to rebuild kdelibs 3.5.10 for AMD64 with it set to use oom_score_adj. Next task is to do the same for i386. Arthur. Building kdelibs 3.5.10 from source for i386 with the oom_score_adj fix t

Re: easiest workaround for oom_adj to oom_score_adj transition (new kernels and kdeinit from KDE 3.5)

2012-10-13 Thread Arthur Marsh
Arthur Marsh wrote, on 13/10/12 15:54: Hi, I've stuck with KDE 3.5.10 as it does what I want, but the new kernels have removed support for /proc//oom_adj and insist on using /proc//oom_score_adj. The only part of KDE 3.5.X that uses /proc//oom_adj is kdeinit, but I have h

easiest workaround for oom_adj to oom_score_adj transition (new kernels and kdeinit from KDE 3.5)

2012-10-12 Thread Arthur Marsh
Hi, I've stuck with KDE 3.5.10 as it does what I want, but the new kernels have removed support for /proc//oom_adj and insist on using /proc//oom_score_adj. The only part of KDE 3.5.X that uses /proc//oom_adj is kdeinit, but I have had no success so far in rebuilding it

Re: Way to have terminal/console application stack in gnome like in KDE 3.5's kicker?

2011-02-17 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:51:27 -0400, D G Teed wrote: > Having lost KDE 3.5 in the squeeze update, and not being satisfied with > the new KDE 4.* (frankly, I think it is very poorly designed), I am > looking for a desktop > which can stack running terminal sessions. > > Let'

Re: Way to have terminal/console application stack in gnome like in KDE 3.5's kicker?

2011-02-17 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 17. 02. 2011 01:51:27 je D G Teed napisal(a): Having lost KDE 3.5 in the squeeze update, and not being satisfied with the new KDE 4.* (frankly, I think it is very poorly designed), I am looking for a desktop which can stack running terminal sessions. Let's say I have 50 Konso

Re: Way to have terminal/console application stack in gnome like in KDE 3.5's kicker?

2011-02-16 Thread Dr. Ed Morbius
on 22:18 Wed 16 Feb, D G Teed (donald.t...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote: > > > on 20:51 Wed 16 Feb, D G Teed (donald.t...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Having lost KDE 3.5 in the squeeze update, and not being satisfied > > > wi

Re: Way to have terminal/console application stack in gnome like in KDE 3.5's kicker?

2011-02-16 Thread D G Teed
On my LUG, someone provided a clue... there is a solution which works for gnome. It causes open windows to be grouped in the gnome panel. It isn't obvious where this is. In the bottom left corner of the screen, you've got the widget to "hide all windows and show the desktop". To the right of tha

Re: Way to have terminal/console application stack in gnome like in KDE 3.5's kicker?

2011-02-16 Thread D G Teed
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote: > on 20:51 Wed 16 Feb, D G Teed (donald.t...@gmail.com) wrote: > > Having lost KDE 3.5 in the squeeze update, and not being satisfied with > the > > new KDE 4.* (frankly, I think it is very poorly designed), I am looking &

Re: Way to have terminal/console application stack in gnome like in KDE 3.5's kicker?

2011-02-16 Thread peasthope
Donald, From: D G Teed Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:51:27 -0400 > Let's say I have 50 Konsole or gnome-terminal windows open, each to a > different remote box. I want to click on the panel area and select one by > name which is already open. ... what options are there > for managing many open

Re: Way to have terminal/console application stack in gnome like in KDE 3.5's kicker?

2011-02-16 Thread Dr. Ed Morbius
on 20:51 Wed 16 Feb, D G Teed (donald.t...@gmail.com) wrote: > Having lost KDE 3.5 in the squeeze update, and not being satisfied with the > new KDE 4.* (frankly, I think it is very poorly designed), I am looking for > a desktop > which can stack running terminal sessions. > > L

Way to have terminal/console application stack in gnome like in KDE 3.5's kicker?

2011-02-16 Thread D G Teed
Having lost KDE 3.5 in the squeeze update, and not being satisfied with the new KDE 4.* (frankly, I think it is very poorly designed), I am looking for a desktop which can stack running terminal sessions. Let's say I have 50 Konsole or gnome-terminal windows open, each to a different remot

Lenny, Swiftfox, Google Desktop Search and KDE 3.5

2010-09-13 Thread Scott Ferguson
Two pseudo bugs I found/created and fixed today. 1. Lenny i386, KDE 3.5.1, Swiftfox current(may affect Iceweasel and Firefox) Copied ~./mozilla from a "used" box to a "fresh" box. Installed Swiftfox on the fresh box and got the passwords, bookmarks etc. from the used box. Problem - a directory i

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-28 Thread Steve
On Monday 17 May 2010, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I would not recommend playing with Activities until KDE 4.5 or even > 4.6. Until then Activities are a mess. However, for the general idea > of what they are, you might want to read this: > http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma#Activities_and_the_Zooming_User_In

Preserving KDE 3.5

2010-05-21 Thread John A. Sullivan III
Hello, all. A while ago there was a vigorous discussion about preserving KDE 3.5. There is an opportunity now to back our words with our actions. The Trinity project (http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net) is maintaining and improving KDE 3.5 for Ubuntu and is willing to set up a Debian repository

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 16 May 2010 19:43, Steve wrote: > On Thursday 06 May 2010, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >> The "KDE 4 sux" time has passed. If you still have problems with KDE >> 4, then please let me know what they are so that they can be fixed. >> >> Thanks! >> >> > I agree with this statement and to this end I bui

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-16 Thread Steve
On Thursday 06 May 2010, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > The "KDE 4 sux" time has passed. If you still have problems with KDE > 4, then please let me know what they are so that they can be fixed. > > Thanks! > > I agree with this statement and to this end I built a sid sandbox to give KDE4 a whirl. I've j

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-12 Thread deloptes
Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: >> - ALL kde apps like kplayer/organizer and probably others start very >> slowly about 20-30secs to pop up > I really think you need to create a new profile. I am not seeing any of > this, having a kweather applet constantly on my desk, tried kmoon and > booting kde apps us

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Bird
On Wed May 12 2010 11:47:27 Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 12 May 2010 13:21, deloptes wrote: > > - ALL kde apps like kplayer/organizer and probably others start very > > slowly about 20-30secs to pop up > > I think that you have something borked in your install. Are you testing in Squeeze or Sid or som

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-12 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 12 May 2010 13:21, deloptes wrote: > What I am missing now is also the old behavior from CTRL+ALT+DEL to get > prompt for reboot or shutdown - or whatever. Now this combination is > locking the screen. Was it adopted from newer windows? > No, that still works on my 4.4 system. >> Thanks. It

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-12 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
deloptes schreef: I forgot to mention that the keyboard froze after pressing ALT+F2 and switching language settings Please, please comment on this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205369 The problem is that it was not iresponsive for just 10secs but forever. I see. Does that happen o

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-12 Thread deloptes
Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 11 May 2010 23:02, deloptes wrote: - weather >>> >> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+%28Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid%29?content=94106 >> >> This was not working in 4.3 and I couldn't start it in 4.4. >> > > Interesting, it works on the Ubuntu box I test KDE

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 12 May 2010 02:26, deloptes wrote: > yes, exactly that's what I mean. the latin "k" has no equivalent in other > languages (in terms of key code). Windows is doing this wisely since the > beginning by setting the switch to ALT+SHIFT, which is language > independent. I like the abbility to chang

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 23:02, deloptes wrote: >>> - weather >> > http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+%28Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid%29?content=94106 > > This was not working in 4.3 and I couldn't start it in 4.4. > Interesting, it works on the Ubuntu box I test KDE on. >>> - korganizer >> >> Che

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
deloptes wrote: > I also think the 4.4 version is pretty usable and as soon as all > applications that I need are usable I will move to kde4. > Second impression is pretty good. For sure there are many small things to do but it looks and feels ok. I'll look forward to test and file bugs on it a

Re: Kde 3.5 ... (SOLVED)

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Said in a nice way, Dotan could you put this on your list and pass it to >> kde developers. I'm missing for sure the old bulgarian phonetic layout >> where w="в" and v="ж" and this is a showstopper for me. >> > > I can't, as I am not Bulgarian and I cannot triage. It might e

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
Richard Hartmann wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 22:02, deloptes wrote: > >> In kde3 the "idiots" didn't think of us poor people not using latin and >> associated per default ALT+K to switch the keymap. Now if you switch from >> english to rushian/bulgarian or whatever ALT+K gives a completely

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 22:02, deloptes wrote: > In kde3 the "idiots" didn't think of us poor people not using latin and > associated per default ALT+K to switch the keymap. Now if you switch from > english to rushian/bulgarian or whatever ALT+K gives a completely different > keycode ... So I had

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
Dotan Cohen wrote: I'm going to write a list and post it here. ATM I can not start korganizer. I have some time, so I would like to test 4.4. Thanks for pointing me to known bugs. I really don't have the patience to search. > > p kteatime

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
Andrei Popescu wrote: > I'd rather think it's an Xorg issue (specifically the package xkb-data, > which contains all keyboard maps). > > Regards, > Andrei I'm not quite sure about it. I'll check. AFAIK it's kde mapping (at least it was in kde3). cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue,11.May.10, 20:58:33, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Said in a nice way, Dotan could you put this on your list and pass it to kde > > developers. I'm missing for sure the old bulgarian phonetic layout where > > w="в" and v="ж" and this is a showstopper for me. > > > > I can't, as I am not Bulgarian

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Said in a nice way, Dotan could you put this on your list and pass it to kde > developers. I'm missing for sure the old bulgarian phonetic layout where > w="в" and v="ж" and this is a showstopper for me. > I can't, as I am not Bulgarian and I cannot triage. It might even be a Debian issue, not a

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 13:50, deloptes wrote: > deloptes wrote: > > screenshot - I need at least those app/lets working to even start thinking > of using kde > > - teatime p kteatime - KDE 4 utility for making a fine cup of tea > - weather http://

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 13:37, deloptes wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Hi, Dotan. > I'm not sure what makes you work for KDE but I hope that you can bring our > word to them. I have really a problem talking to programmers and software > people (in most of the cases), because they already think in routines

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 10 May 2010 23:41, consul tores wrote: > 2010/5/9 Dotan Cohen : >> On 8 May 2010 22:35, consul tores wrote: >>> 2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen : What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific. >>> >>> Who are you figuring out you are, man? >>> >> A KDE contributor

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 11 May 2010 12:19:22 +0200 steef wrote: Hello steef, > this seems the answer where i was waiting for. Not exactly what you wanted, but I'm sure it'll suffice. > thanx agaian, You're welcome. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnev

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
Teemu Likonen wrote: > * 2010-05-11 12:37 (+0200), delop...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Dotan, please, be nice. > >> I hope you have patience and talk to kde guys, because I couldn't >> stand their young undeveloped developers brains > > Yes, being nice is really nice. > > yes, it's said in a quit

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2010-05-11 12:37 (+0200), delop...@yahoo.com wrote: > Dotan, please, be nice. > I hope you have patience and talk to kde guys, because I couldn't > stand their young undeveloped developers brains Yes, being nice is really nice. -- Feel free to Cc me your replies if you want to make sure I'l

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
deloptes wrote: screenshot - I need at least those app/lets working to even start thinking of using kde - teatime - weather - moon - clock/calendar - wireless manager - skype - korganizer - kwallet - cpu monitor - infrared control - powermanagement - keyboard - screen management (xrandr interfac

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
Dotan Cohen wrote: Hi, Dotan. I'm not sure what makes you work for KDE but I hope that you can bring our word to them. I have really a problem talking to programmers and software people (in most of the cases), because they already think in routines ... so the logic behind there thinking is not a h

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
Freeman wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:40:51PM -0700, evenso wrote: >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:43:32AM +0200, deloptes wrote: >> >> . . . >> >> > >> > when is squeeze becoming stable?? >> > >> >> According to officialdom, approximately when the number of R-C bugs hits >> 300. That is

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread steef
Brad Rogers schreef: On Mon, 10 May 2010 15:11:45 +0200 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Hello Sjoerd, See http://www.lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/~sjoerd/files/schermafdruk.png. Translation of the popup-box: "copy selected files in /home/sjoerd to:" Not really needed; In Dolphin's 'Settings Menu'

Reply to list for Icedove [Was Kde 3.5 ...]

2010-05-11 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Dotan Cohen schreef: On 10 May 2010 19:56, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: You should get a better client. Irrespective of your choice of client, it is *your* responsibility to follow the Code of Conduct. This includes only sending CC's to posters the request it. I'll make an effort to edit t

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Freeman
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:40:51PM -0700, evenso wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:43:32AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > > . . . > > > > > when is squeeze becoming stable?? > > > > According to officialdom, approximately when the number of R-C bugs hits 300. > That is the green line > here: htt

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Freeman
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:43:32AM +0200, deloptes wrote: . . . > > when is squeeze becoming stable?? > > regards > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread deloptes
squeeze seem to have 4.3 inside. Did you mean sid to test future functionality that will probably go into 4.5?? kdebase-runtime-data 4:4.3.4-2 etc. I'll check sid next. when is squeeze becoming stable?? regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subj

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread consul tores
2010/5/9 Dotan Cohen : > On 8 May 2010 22:35, consul tores wrote: >> 2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen : >>> What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific. >> >> Who are you figuring out you are, man? >> > A KDE contributor who is trying to help make KDE suitable for you. If > you

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 10 May 2010 19:56, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > You should get a better client.  Irrespective of your choice of client, it is > *your* responsibility to follow the Code of Conduct.  This includes only > sending CC's to posters the request it. I'll make an effort to edit the CC list, but I'l

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 10 May 2010 15:11:45 +0200 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Hello Sjoerd, > See http://www.lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/~sjoerd/files/schermafdruk.png. > Translation of the popup-box: "copy selected files in /home/sjoerd to:" Not really needed; In Dolphin's 'Settings Menu' choose 'Configure Dolphin', a

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Mike Bird
KDE 4 and file his own bugs. If you want to compare KDE 3.5 and KDE 4 then please install both. If you want to discuss KDE 4 please do so in a KDE 4 thread. > I'm trying to help him, if you haven't noticed, and your interference > is not appreciated. I have no problem with you lo

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Freeman
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:46:37AM +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Monday 10 May 2010 07:25:42 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > :-)  Well said!  And is there not a list rule that replies should go only > > > : to > > > > > > the list unless a copy is specifically requested?  I find having these > > > commands arri

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 10 May 2010 01:53:05 Dotan Cohen wrote: > [M]y choices are Reply (only to > lisi.re...@~) or to Reply All (to lisi.re...@~ and to debian-u...@~) > so you see that I _cannot_ reply to the list without replying to you > if I do not manually edit the CC list. You should get a better client.

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 10 May 2010 17:34, Mihira Fernando wrote: > Also I believe it keeps > a list of most used locations as part of the option so that you can > just select from the list. > > Thanks, you might want to suggest that the Places menu be available in that dialogue, then, as that is the KDE 4 way of doi

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
> I never used the feature (I generally do all my file management with cp, mv, > etc.), but I believe it worked like this: the user selecs some files, > activates that option, and provides a folder in the dialog. The selected > files are then copied to the specified folder. > > Nothing that can't b

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Mihira Fernando
On Mon, 10 May 2010 17:20:26 +0300 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > See http://www.lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/~sjoerd/files/schermafdruk.png. > > Translation of the popup-box: "copy selected files in /home/sjoerd > > to:" > > > > Here one would type the names of files that he wishes to copy? Does he > then per

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Seg, 10 Mai 2010, Dotan Cohen wrote: See http://www.lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/~sjoerd/files/schermafdruk.png. Translation of the popup-box: "copy selected files in /home/sjoerd to:" Here one would type the names of files that he wishes to copy? Does he then perform a normal paste operation in t

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
> See http://www.lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/~sjoerd/files/schermafdruk.png. > Translation of the popup-box: "copy selected files in /home/sjoerd to:" > Here one would type the names of files that he wishes to copy? Does he then perform a normal paste operation in the destination folder? One _work_arou

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 10 May 2010 16:08, Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon May 10 2010 05:48:37 Dotan Cohen wrote: >> What does "copy files" do then? Describe to me what it does and I will >> see if Dolphin can do that, or if it is reasonable I will file a >> feature request. > > Did you not know KDE has a builtin help syst

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread steef
in both Dolphin and in Konqueror. Can you send to me a screenshot of your Edit menu? What KDE version? hi dotan: that is not exactly what i mean: i was not clear enough: so another time: i mean in kde 3.5 in the same row as 'copy' under 'edit' the 'copy file

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread steef
t; Copy in both Dolphin and in Konqueror. Can you send to me a screenshot of your Edit menu? What KDE version? hi dotan: that is not exactly what i mean: i was not clear enough: so another time: i mean in kde 3.5 in the same row as 'copy' under 'edit' the 'copy files

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
n Konqueror. Can you send to me a screenshot of your Edit menu? What KDE version? hi dotan: that is not exactly what i mean: i was not clear enough: so another time: i mean in kde 3.5 in the same row as 'copy' under 'edit' the 'copy files' possibility that i canno

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon May 10 2010 05:48:37 Dotan Cohen wrote: > What does "copy files" do then? Describe to me what it does and I will > see if Dolphin can do that, or if it is reasonable I will file a > feature request. Did you not know KDE has a builtin help system? Or are you trolling? "Edit->Copy Files (F7

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
; In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit ->  Copy in both Dolphin and in Konqueror. Can >> you send to me a screenshot of your Edit menu? What KDE version? >> >> > > hi dotan: > > that is not exactly what i mean: i was not clear enough: so another time: > > i mean in kde 3.5

Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread steef
Edit menu? What KDE version? hi dotan: that is not exactly what i mean: i was not clear enough: so another time: i mean in kde 3.5 in the same row as 'copy' under 'edit' the 'copy files' possibility that i cannot find back in kde4.x.x i'll look at exact th

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread steef
Edit menu? What KDE version? hi dotan: that is not exactly what i mean: i was not clear enough: so another time: i mean in kde 3.5 in the same row as 'copy' under 'edit' the 'copy files' possibility that i cannot find back in kde4.x.x i'll look at exact the

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 09:46:59AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 9 May 2010 19:06, Mike Bird wrote: > > That is factually incorrect.  Dotan has replied to me+list > > on several occasions without permission. > > I did not know that I needed your permission to reply to you. > > > From the commen

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 03:18:27PM +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef: > > On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote: > >>> Dotan Cohen > >> > >> Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your > >> orders? > > > > :-) Well said! An

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread deloptes
Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 8 May 2010 22:35, consul tores wrote: >> 2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen : >>> On 8 May 2010 15:32, consul tores wrote: the windows are absolutely useless, i can not use many, they have all kind of useless information; >> >>> What useless information? I'd like to fix that

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,10.May.10, 09:25:42, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Sorry for CCing to you messages that are meant for you, Lisi. If you > haven't noticed the mailing list headers are broken and Reply sends > messages off list. Therefore I use Reply All and oh nos, you get CCed. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 10 May 2010 09:55, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > If that is your task, I tink you'd better skip those non-contructive > comments. > There is a lot of constructive ones, that you can care about. > You are right, and I should know better than to feed the trolls. However, when the trolls accus

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
> Dotan Cohen : > I expect you to dislike KDE 4, as it does not suit your needs! That is > quite why I ask what your problems are, so that I might fix them. If that is your task, I tink you'd better skip those non-contructive comments. There is a lot of constructive ones, that you can care about.

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 10 May 2010 09:46, Lisi wrote: >> Sorry for CCing to you messages that are meant for you, Lisi. If you >> haven't noticed the mailing list headers are broken and Reply sends >> messages off list. Therefore I use Reply All and oh nos, you get CCed. >> I apologize for sending to you "commands" in

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 9 May 2010 19:06, Mike Bird wrote: > On Sun May 9 2010 06:18:27 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: >> It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In >> this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem. > > That is factually incorrect.  Dotan has replied to me+list > on several o

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Lisi
On Monday 10 May 2010 07:25:42 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > :-)  Well said!  And is there not a list rule that replies should go only > > : to > > > > the list unless a copy is specifically requested?  I find having these > > commands arriving in my personal (as opposed to list) folder a nuisance. > >  I

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 9 May 2010 18:02, Lisi wrote: > I have already forwarded them to the list and would gladly send them on to you > if you were to ask me to do so.  But list policy is to stay on list unless > requested to do otherwise. ;-) > > The last one in particular was personal, rude and unpleasant.  He is n

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 9 May 2010 17:00, Lisi wrote: > I do *not* ask otherwise and Dotan has been sending long, rude, unpleasant > emails direct to me. What "long, rude, unpleasant emails" have I sent to you? Go ahead, post everything that I've ever sent to you here. I've sent mails only as long as the demands of y

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
> Lisi : > I do not have to give him reasons for my dislike. Your mind really suites proprietary softwares. -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche & Developpement +261 34 29 155 34 / +261 33 11 207 36 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Dotan Cohen
> where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 edit> > copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough? > In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit -> Copy in both Dolphin and in Konqueror. Can you send to me a screenshot of your Edit menu? What KDE version? -- Dotan Cohe

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Dotan Cohen
> :-)  Well said!  And is there not a list rule that replies should go only to > the list unless a copy is specifically requested?  I find having these > commands arriving in my personal (as opposed to list) folder a nuisance.  I > filter for a reason! > Sorry for CCing to you messages that are me

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 8 May 2010 22:35, consul tores wrote: > 2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen : >> On 8 May 2010 15:32, consul tores wrote: >>> the windows are absolutely useless, i can not >>> use many, they have all kind of useless information; > >> What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun May 9 2010 02:35:02 pm Lisi wrote: > I am, however, very sad that KDE 3.5, which I regard as the pinnacle of > DE's, is being laid to rest. We are in agreement here Lisi. It's not that I don't like kde4 it's just that I'd like to keep what I have since it d

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Lisi
he people who care about making KDE4 better? Do you just > > > want to use the list as your personal agony aunt? I did not "bother the list with my grievances" nor "use the list as (my) personal agony aunt". I said (and I quote including the text to which I was replyin

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Florian Kulzer
st as well to the initial complaints. > A lot of people care about > not making Debian worse, and are thereafter taking the time and > making the effort to present the case for not deleting KDE 3.5 > from Debian. Probably true, but I do not see what that has to do with th

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Mike Bird
list as your personal agony aunt? This is a Debian list, not a KDE list. A lot of people care about not making Debian worse, and are thereafter taking the time and making the effort to present the case for not deleting KDE 3.5 from Debian. While the KDE devs have gone on to new and sillier pastures

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun May 9 2010 06:18:27 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In > this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem. That is factually incorrect. Dotan has replied to me+list on several occasions without permission. From the comments

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 15:00:31 +0100, Lisi wrote: [...] > I do *not* ask otherwise and Dotan has been sending long, rude, unpleasant > emails direct to me. That is what I am complaining about. On-list complaints about unsolicited CC'ing are also against the code of conduct, so you are at lea

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Op 09-05-10 17:02, Lisi schreef: > On Sunday 09 May 2010 15:30:35 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: >>> Perhaps you should read Dotan's last two emails to me (especially the >>> last one) before complaining about my complaint. >> >> Well, that's kind of hard since they are sent to you. Unless you want me >> t

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 09 May 2010 15:30:35 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > > Perhaps you should read Dotan's last two emails to me (especially the > > last one) before complaining about my complaint. > > Well, that's kind of hard since they are sent to you. Unless you want me > to hack your mailbox ;) > > > And my cr

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Op 09-05-10 16:00, Lisi schreef: >> It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In >> this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem. > > I do *not* ask otherwise and Dotan has been sending long, rude, unpleasant > emails direct to me. That is what I am complaining

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 09 May 2010 14:18:27 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef: > > On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote: > >>> Dotan Cohen > >> > >> Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your > >> orders? > >> > > :-) Well sai

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread steef
Dotan Cohen schreef: No - that is the problem!! I loved KDE 3.5.x and have become quite slick with it. KDE 4 is different. I don't like it. If I have to, in effect, change DE, and go through the learning curve again, there is no reason why it would have to be to KDE 4. This is a

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread steef
sjoerd: completely agreed! steef van duin Sjoerd Hardeman schreef: Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef: On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote: Dotan Cohen Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your orders? :-) Well

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef: > On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote: >>> Dotan Cohen >> >> Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your >> orders? > > :-) Well said! And is there not a list rule that replies should go only to > the list unless a co

Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Lisi
I seem not to have forwarded this, although I forwarded the others. And Dotan seems to have circulated it, but not to here. So, for completeness in the thread, herewith: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Kde 3.5 ... Date: Friday 07 May 2010 From: Dotan Cohen To: Lisi

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote: > > Dotan Cohen > > Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your > orders? :-) Well said! And is there not a list rule that replies should go only to the list unless a copy is specifically requested? I find having

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread consul tores
2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen : > On 8 May 2010 15:32, consul tores wrote: >> the windows are absolutely useless, i can not >> use many, they have all kind of useless information; > What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific. Who are you figuring out you are, man? >> the

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
And now to the list. Goran, my apologies Op 08-05-10 06:49, godo schreef: > > >> >> Please do not judge KDE4 by not being a copy of KDE 3.5. If that was the >> >> case, there would be no point in making a new version anyway. The >> >> important questi

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat May 8 2010 08:25:07 Dotan Cohen wrote: > So long as you are not loading Qt3 libraries in addition to the Qt4 > libraries, KDE 4 is lighter on RAM than KDE 3. You can really feel it, > too. Note that many Debian KDE 3.5 installations include both QT3 and QT4, e.g. to support kdeblu

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 8 May 2010 15:32, consul tores wrote: > the windows are absolutely useless, i can not > use many, they have all kind of useless information; What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific. > the menu, needs 3 > times more clicks than 3.5; Can you be more specifi

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