Op 09-05-10 17:02, Lisi schreef: > On Sunday 09 May 2010 15:30:35 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: >>> Perhaps you should read Dotan's last two emails to me (especially the >>> last one) before complaining about my complaint. >> >> Well, that's kind of hard since they are sent to you. Unless you want me >> to hack your mailbox ;) >> >>> And my crime?? For which you too clearly feel that I should be subjected >>> to the unpleasant bullying in emails direct to me? I use KDE 3, but do >>> not intend to use KDE 4. >> >> As far as I have seen the mails of Dotan on this list (the one I'm >> following), he is currently collecting issues with KDE4 and filing the >> to the devs. > > I have already forwarded them to the list and would gladly send them on to > you > if you were to ask me to do so. But list policy is to stay on list unless > requested to do otherwise. ;-) Then I have seen them. Yes, he's a bit persistent, that's for sure. But really bullying? Anyway, it is not for me to judge if you feel bullied. And as I hopefully made clear, the "manners" comment was surely not just for you. It's just an attempt to keep the discussion on KDE instead of a flame war or something similarly unpleasant. > > He is doing that, but in addition he is bullying people most unpleasantly if > they do not do his bidding. I do not use KDE 4 and have no wish to do so. That's surely your right. > > The only thing I could have done differently (other than not send that very > short and mild complaint) is bow down to Dotan and agree that I have no right > to dislike KDE 4, because he does not find my reasons valid. I tried to end > this by simply not replying, but even that did not rescue me - he sent > another email, to which I again did not reply. What more could I do, other > than be very rude myself, to make him go away? Well, some of your reasons weren't valid. There were several "this doesn't work"-claims which just work, at least on my testing install. Which does not mean that there are no reasons why kde4 is good for you. The problem I had with some of the comments were that they were unfair. That something doesn't do as it did somewhere else is not necessarily a bad thing. Anyway, let's close this discussion here. I surely agree that KDE4 has is strengths and weaknesses, and based on your daily routine and preferences this can be a problem. As with any other DE. I don't like gnome, which doesn't mean that gnome is bad. It's just bad for me.
Sjoerd
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