Re: initrd sizes mushroomed several months ago (was: switch from IDE to AHCI...)

2023-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Tue 31 Jan 2023 at 18:31:15 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2023-01-28 09:10 (UTC-0600): > > On Sat 28 Jan 2023 at 03:15:11 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > > >> I thought only Windows was like that, but apparently not always. I keep my > >> initramfs configuration set to =d

Re: initrd sizes mushroomed several months ago (was: switch from IDE to AHCI...)

2023-01-31 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2023-01-28 09:10 (UTC-0600): > On Sat 28 Jan 2023 at 03:15:11 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: >> I thought only Windows was like that, but apparently not always. I keep my >> initramfs configuration set to =dep. > And is that the reason behind, and cure for, your mushroomin

Re: switch from IDE to AHCI causes not finding root FS

2023-01-28 Thread Felix Miata
several times before I had enough freespace to allow purging unneededs. /root/.bash_history on that installation now has 200 lines with string purge in it. e.g. It had mint-background installed going back 5 releases. Mint is bloat piled on top of bloat. :p >> I have an old multiboot Core2Du

Re: switch from IDE to AHCI causes not finding root FS

2023-01-28 Thread David Wright
On Sat 28 Jan 2023 at 17:25:37 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2023-01-28, David Wright wrote: > >> > >> Anyone here know how I can determine what to add? > > > > One might suppose you need: > > > > ahci 40960 5 > > libahci45056 1 ahci > > libata29900

Re: switch from IDE to AHCI causes not finding root FS

2023-01-28 Thread Curt
On 2023-01-28, David Wright wrote: >> >> Anyone here know how I can determine what to add? > > One might suppose you need: > > ahci 40960 5 > libahci45056 1 ahci > libata299008 2 libahci,ahci > scsi_mod 270336 4 sd_mod,libata,sg,s

Re: switch from IDE to AHCI causes not finding root FS

2023-01-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
Felix Miata [2023-01-28 03:15:11] wrote: > Anyone here know how I can determine what to add? Assuming I can't get help like you did from a forum, I'd do: - switch back to IDE - set MODULES=most - regenerate the initrd - switch back to AHCI - set MODULES=dep - regenerate the init

Re: switch from IDE to AHCI causes not finding root FS

2023-01-28 Thread David Wright
debian-user/2022/11/msg00331.html > I have an old multiboot Core2Duo on ICH8 that > I found had been set to IDE instead of AHCI. I changed it to AHCI, which makes > Grub load sooner, and probably Linux I/O more efficient. Fedora, openSUSE and > Mageia are having no trouble booting this way

Re: switch from IDE to AHCI causes not finding root FS

2023-01-28 Thread Tixy
On Sat, 2023-01-28 at 10:47 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > I would think you only need to regenerate initramfs (after having > switched the UEFI/BIOS to AHCI instead of IDE) because last time it was > generated with the dep parameter, the PC was in IDE mode so AHCI was > not included.

Re: switch from IDE to AHCI causes not finding root FS

2023-01-28 Thread didier gaumet
Le samedi 28 janvier 2023 à 03:15 -0500, Felix Miata a écrit : > I thought only Windows was like that, but apparently not always. I > keep my > initramfs configuration set to =dep. I have an old multiboot Core2Duo > on ICH8 that > I found had been set to IDE instead of AHCI. I cha

switch from IDE to AHCI causes not finding root FS

2023-01-28 Thread Felix Miata
I thought only Windows was like that, but apparently not always. I keep my initramfs configuration set to =dep. I have an old multiboot Core2Duo on ICH8 that I found had been set to IDE instead of AHCI. I changed it to AHCI, which makes Grub load sooner, and probably Linux I/O more efficient

Re: Recommmended IDE for C++ 17 (gcc8)?

2019-05-25 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 5/25/19 4:04 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Is anyone here using an IDE for working on C++ code at the revision 17 level > (aka gcc8), iiuc. > > I'm looking for something that will work on Jessie. > > I've been trying to use version 5.3.2 of kdevelop (fr

Recommmended IDE for C++ 17 (gcc8)?

2019-05-24 Thread rhkramer
Is anyone here using an IDE for working on C++ code at the revision 17 level (aka gcc8), iiuc. I'm looking for something that will work on Jessie. I've been trying to use version 5.3.2 of kdevelop (from a flatpack or whatever they call it) and have been running into problems. *Ma

eric Python IDE minor warnings

2019-02-16 Thread Kent West
I'm running unstable; don't know much about python or eric (an IDE for python), just enough to maybe do a "Hello, World" or copy/paste something a little bigger. I did (IIRC): aptitude upgrade aptitude full-upgrade aptitude install eric aptitude install python-tk I th

Re: Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

2018-12-08 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
I'm a big fan of platform IO https://platformio.org/ It's not really an IDE, but instead a bunch of command line tools that replace the functions of the Arduino IDE. On December 7, 2018 10:28:48 AM CST, Jason wrote: >Does anyone know if there is a console based Arduino IDE

Re: Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

2018-12-08 Thread Jason
On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 01:33:42PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 07.12.18 16:42, Jason wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 05:05:30PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > > > Jason wrote: > > > > Does anyone know if there is a console based Arduino IDE available for &

Re: Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

2018-12-08 Thread Dan Purgert
Jason wrote: > On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 05:05:30PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Jason wrote: >> > Does anyone know if there is a console based Arduino IDE available for >> > Debian? I am interested in making a portable programmer that could be >> > taken out

Re: Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

2018-12-07 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 07.12.18 16:42, Jason wrote: > On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 05:05:30PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > > Jason wrote: > > > Does anyone know if there is a console based Arduino IDE available for > > > Debian? I am interested in making a portable programmer that could be

Re: Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

2018-12-07 Thread Linux-Fan
Jason writes: On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 05:05:30PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > Jason wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is a console based Arduino IDE available for > > Debian? I am interested in making a portable programmer that could be > > taken out on a job to ed

Re: Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

2018-12-07 Thread Jason
On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 12:13:07PM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 12/7/18, Jason wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is a console based Arduino IDE available for > > Debian? I am interested in making a portable programmer that could be > > taken out on a job to ed

Re: Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

2018-12-07 Thread Jason
On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 05:05:30PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > Jason wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is a console based Arduino IDE available for > > Debian? I am interested in making a portable programmer that could be > > taken out on a job to edit and upload Ard

Re: Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

2018-12-07 Thread deloptes
Dan Purgert wrote: > Don't know of any IDEs for the commandline, but you can always use > avrdude straight from the commandline to handle writing the compiled hex > to the thing. I did not use it with Arduino, but with few different Atmel chips it worked just fine from the command line. regards

Re: Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

2018-12-07 Thread John Conover
up, (where the "switch" statement is the command interpreter.) Just an idea ... John Jason writes: > Does anyone know if there is a console based Arduino IDE available for > Debian? I am interested in making a portable programmer that could be > taken out on a job to edit a

Re: Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

2018-12-07 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 12/7/18, Jason wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a console based Arduino IDE available for > Debian? I am interested in making a portable programmer that could be > taken out on a job to edit and upload Arduino programs on site, without > messing with a mouse. My apologie

Re: Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

2018-12-07 Thread Dan Purgert
Jason wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a console based Arduino IDE available for > Debian? I am interested in making a portable programmer that could be > taken out on a job to edit and upload Arduino programs on site, without > messing with a mouse. Don't know of

Re: Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

2018-12-07 Thread Joe
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 10:28:48 -0600 Jason wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a console based Arduino IDE available > for Debian? I am interested in making a portable programmer that > could be taken out on a job to edit and upload Arduino programs on > site, without messing with a m

Re: Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

2018-12-07 Thread Joe
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 10:28:48 -0600 Jason wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a console based Arduino IDE available > for Debian? I am interested in making a portable programmer that > could be taken out on a job to edit and upload Arduino programs on > site, without messing

Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

2018-12-07 Thread Jason
Does anyone know if there is a console based Arduino IDE available for Debian? I am interested in making a portable programmer that could be taken out on a job to edit and upload Arduino programs on site, without messing with a mouse. Thanks, -- Jason

Re: IDE to USB Converters

2017-05-02 Thread David Christensen
On 05/02/2017 06:02 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: If one buys an IDE to USB converter for an older chassis that currently can only boot from the IDE interface, will a bootable usb thumb drive work with such a setup? I actually have been using an IDE-SATA converter on these systems

Re: IDE to USB Converters

2017-05-02 Thread Martin McCormick
just buy some replacement drives as the IDE-SATA adaptors are still good. Martin

Re: IDE to USB Converters

2017-05-02 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 08:02:32AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > If one buys an IDE to USB converter for an older chassis > that currently can only boot from the IDE interface, will a > bootable usb thumb drive work with such a setup? > > I actually have been us

Re: IDE to USB Converters

2017-05-02 Thread Martin McCormick
writes: > Does such an animal exist? I mean in the direction you are thinking > of (I know the "other" direction exists). That's what bothers me, too. I know that the picture I have in my head is a board with an IDE connector on one side and a usb port on the other where o

Re: IDE to USB Converters

2017-05-02 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 08:02:32AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > If one buys an IDE to USB converter for an older chassis > that currently can only boot from the IDE interface, will a > bootable usb thumb drive work with such a set

IDE to USB Converters

2017-05-02 Thread Martin McCormick
If one buys an IDE to USB converter for an older chassis that currently can only boot from the IDE interface, will a bootable usb thumb drive work with such a setup? I actually have been using an IDE-SATA converter on these systems but 2 of 4 SATA drives have completely died after

[SOLVED] Re: replacement for ide-generic in Wheezy?

2013-08-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 08/08/13 05:39 AM, Gary Dale wrote: The various ide modules (ide-generic, ide-cdrom, etc.) seem to be missing in the Wheezy kernel. However they still compile a 486 kernel so I'm assuming there is some intent to continue to support older hardware. In my case, I have an old laptop t

Re: replacement for ide-generic in Wheezy?

2013-08-08 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello, On 09/08/13 02:31, Gary Dale wrote: > On 08/08/13 12:20 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 12:06:23PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: >>> On 08/08/13 06:28 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >>>> Hello Gary, >>>> >>>> On 08/08/13 11:3

Re: replacement for ide-generic in Wheezy?

2013-08-08 Thread Gary Dale
On 08/08/13 12:20 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 12:06:23PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: On 08/08/13 06:28 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello Gary, On 08/08/13 11:39, Gary Dale wrote: The various ide modules (ide-generic, ide-cdrom, etc.) seem to be missing in the Wheezy kernel

Re: replacement for ide-generic in Wheezy?

2013-08-08 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 12:06:23PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > On 08/08/13 06:28 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > >Hello Gary, > > > >On 08/08/13 11:39, Gary Dale wrote: > >>The various ide modules (ide-generic, ide-cdrom, etc.) seem to be missing > >>in the Whee

Re: replacement for ide-generic in Wheezy?

2013-08-08 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hi, On 08/08/13 18:06, Gary Dale wrote: > On 08/08/13 06:28 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> Hello Gary, >> >> On 08/08/13 11:39, Gary Dale wrote: >>> The various ide modules (ide-generic, ide-cdrom, etc.) seem to be missing >>> in the Wheezy kernel. However

Re: replacement for ide-generic in Wheezy?

2013-08-08 Thread Gary Dale
On 08/08/13 06:28 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello Gary, On 08/08/13 11:39, Gary Dale wrote: The various ide modules (ide-generic, ide-cdrom, etc.) seem to be missing in the Wheezy kernel. However they still compile a 486 kernel so I'm assuming there is some intent to continue to support

Re: replacement for ide-generic in Wheezy?

2013-08-08 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello Gary, On 08/08/13 11:39, Gary Dale wrote: > The various ide modules (ide-generic, ide-cdrom, etc.) seem to be missing in > the Wheezy kernel. However they still compile a 486 kernel so I'm assuming > there is some intent to continue to support older hardware. > > I

replacement for ide-generic in Wheezy?

2013-08-08 Thread Gary Dale
The various ide modules (ide-generic, ide-cdrom, etc.) seem to be missing in the Wheezy kernel. However they still compile a 486 kernel so I'm assuming there is some intent to continue to support older hardware. In my case, I have an old laptop that I could run Squeeze on by includin

Re: Re: Re: Wheezy missing IDE modules

2013-05-14 Thread rlwkayaker
Bad was a discontinuity in the video stream every 5 to 10 seconds. Worse is a discontinuity in the video stream every 2 seconds. Yes, the three ide modules that I listed were in /etc/modules, probably put there by the Lenny installation. I know I didn't put them there manually when I upg

Re: Re: Wheezy missing IDE modules

2013-05-14 Thread Brian
'bad'? It has been suggested you have ide modules listed in /etc/modules. Did you? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130514192104.GE25306@desktop

Re: Re: Wheezy missing IDE modules

2013-05-13 Thread rlwbonsai
The 3.8 kernel from Sid is much worse for this problem. The 3.2.0-4 default Wheezy kernel is bad. The default Squeeze kernel 2.6.32-5-486 works with gxine to render good video. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact l

Re: Wheezy missing IDE modules

2013-05-13 Thread Sven Joachim
drive capable of UDMA2. > Booting into the default i386 kernel results in three 'fatal' > error messages stating can't find or load modules ide-cd, > ide-disk and ide-generic. These modules are not provided because they have been obsoleted by Libata. I very much doubt th

Wheezy missing IDE modules

2013-05-12 Thread rlwbonsai
sults in three 'fatal' error messages stating can't find or load modules ide-cd, ide-disk and ide-generic. The hard drive and DVD drive function. Can't find a package in the Wheezy repository to provide these modules. Booting into the Squeeze default kernel which has these m

Re: Quest: Moving IDE drives between machines

2012-11-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
IIUC it's a Linux machine, no Windows installed? The OP just experienced issues with MS-DOS in the past. If there was only one IDE HDD in the old machine, aka hda and only this drive should be mounted to the new machine, what ever fstab entries there are, they will be ok for the new machin

Re: Quest: Moving IDE drives between machines

2012-11-30 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:06:51 -0800 > Kelly Clowers wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote: >> > Greetings: >> > >> > One of my Linux machines has crashed and root drive or IDE >

Re: Quest: Moving IDE drives between machines

2012-11-30 Thread Joe
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:06:51 -0800 Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote: > > Greetings: > > > > One of my Linux machines has crashed and root drive or IDE > > controller is bad. > > > > Can I unplug an IDE drive and p

Re: Quest: Moving IDE drives between machines

2012-11-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 12:06 -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: > * I have not tested this. Not responsible if it lets the magic smoke > out of your computer :-) No exciting explosion, fire and smoke will happen. I can't speak for Windows, but Linux will work or it will not work. If it won't work, then re

Re: Quest: Moving IDE drives between machines

2012-11-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 12:55 -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: > Greetings: > > One of my Linux machines has crashed and root drive or IDE > controller is bad. > > Can I unplug an IDE drive and plug it into another machine? > I have a vague recollection that this caused probl

Re: Quest: Moving IDE drives between machines

2012-11-30 Thread Gary Dale
On 30/11/12 01:55 PM, Dennis Wicks wrote: Greetings: One of my Linux machines has crashed and root drive or IDE controller is bad. Can I unplug an IDE drive and plug it into another machine? I have a vague recollection that this caused problems back when I was running MS/DOS, but not sure. Is

Re: Quest: Moving IDE drives between machines

2012-11-30 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote: > Greetings: > > One of my Linux machines has crashed and root drive or IDE > controller is bad. > > Can I unplug an IDE drive and plug it into another machine? > I have a vague recollection that this caused problems back

Quest: Moving IDE drives between machines

2012-11-30 Thread Dennis Wicks
Greetings: One of my Linux machines has crashed and root drive or IDE controller is bad. Can I unplug an IDE drive and plug it into another machine? I have a vague recollection that this caused problems back when I was running MS/DOS, but not sure. Is it OK today? Thanks for any help! Dennis

Re: [OT] Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem (CLOSED)

2012-04-11 Thread Camaleón
not, >> you can try to connect it to port IDE1 (same as the hard disk) as >> slave, that could make a difference (buy a longer IDE cable if the >> devices are separated enough) or extract the optical unit and use it >> with an external USB case. >> >> >> >

Re: Re: [OT] Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem (CLOSED)

2012-04-10 Thread Gary Roach
x27;t have to boot to the cdrom very often I can live with it. I'm tired of fooling with the problem. Gary R. Mmm, is the CD-ROM unit still visible/accessible within the OS? If not, you can try to connect it to port IDE1 (same as the hard disk) as slave, that could make a differe

Re: [OT] Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem (CLOSED)

2012-04-09 Thread Camaleón
s so that it recognized the cdrom > and installed Debian Linux. I then rebooted, F2ed to the bios and > changed it so that it could find the hard drive. That worked. Since I > don't have to boot to the cdrom very often I can live with it. I'm > tired of fooling with th

Re: [OT] Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem

2012-04-08 Thread Gary Roach
On 01/-10/-28163 11:59 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:41:08 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: I have an older computer that is still completely serviceable that I am switching over to Linux from win2k. The system has had a glitch for a long time in that it fails to boot the first time I

Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem

2012-04-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
work. You can do that from a live cd. Tom's Root Boot has more than enough tools for the task. > I think what I am going to do is > change the ATA/IDE Configuration to Enhanced, put the linux installation > disk in the CDROM drive and hope that it boots. One of the respondents >

Re: Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem

2012-04-08 Thread Gary Roach
reason is that it can't find the WD600BB, 60 GB hard drive. A second try usually fixed the problem. It has an Intel D865PERL mother board, a P4 2.4 GHZ processor and 512 MB DDR 400 ram. I just upgraded the BIOS to the latest version. If the BOIS ATA/IDE Configuration is set to Extended, the

[OT] Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem

2012-04-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:41:08 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > I have an older computer that is still completely serviceable that I am > switching over to Linux from win2k. The system has had a glitch for a > long time in that it fails to boot the first time I try. The reason is > that it can't find the

Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem

2012-04-08 Thread Keith
On 08/04/12 00:41, Gary Roach wrote: Swapping cables didn't help. The two units are mounted too far apart to make one master and the other slave on the same IDE port. I've run out of ideas. Anyone else have any? Perhaps a longer cable.. (Upto 1 meter long, I think; may also

Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem

2012-04-08 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 04/07/12 16:41, Gary Roach wrote: If the BOIS ATA/IDE Configuration is set to Extended, the bios finds my CDROM drive but not the hard drive. If the configuration is set to Legacy the bios finds the hard drive but not my CDROM drive. The hard drive is on IDE -1 as master (or stand alone

Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem

2012-04-07 Thread Scott Ferguson
he WD600BB, 60 GB hard drive. A second try usually > fixed the problem. It has an Intel D865PERL mother board, a P4 2.4 GHZ > processor and 512 MB DDR 400 ram. I just upgraded the BIOS to the latest > version. > > If the BOIS ATA/IDE Configuration is set to Extended, the bios finds m

ATA/IDE hard drive problem

2012-04-07 Thread Gary Roach
d the problem. It has an Intel D865PERL mother board, a P4 2.4 GHZ processor and 512 MB DDR 400 ram. I just upgraded the BIOS to the latest version. If the BOIS ATA/IDE Configuration is set to Extended, the bios finds my CDROM drive but not the hard drive. If the configuration is set to Legac

Re: Do I own an unsupported optical IDE drive?

2011-07-24 Thread Tomas Kral
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 20:47 +0200, Horace Dynamite wrote: > On 22 July 2011 18:27, Camaleón wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:54:00 +0100, Horace Dynamite wrote: > > > >> On 22 July 2011 16:43, Camaleón wrote: > >>> Uff, have you tried with another I

Re: Do I own an unsupported optical IDE drive?

2011-07-22 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:47:40 +0100, Horace Dynamite wrote: > On 22 July 2011 18:27, Camaleón wrote: >> On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:54:00 +0100, Horace Dynamite wrote: >> >>> On 22 July 2011 16:43, Camaleón wrote: >>>> Uff, have you tried with another IDE ca

Re: Do I own an unsupported optical IDE drive?

2011-07-22 Thread Horace Dynamite
On 22 July 2011 18:27, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:54:00 +0100, Horace Dynamite wrote: > >> On 22 July 2011 16:43, Camaleón wrote: >>> Uff, have you tried with another IDE cable? Those seem hardware errors. >> >> I installed the Debian system usi

Re: Do I own an unsupported optical IDE drive?

2011-07-22 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:54:00 +0100, Horace Dynamite wrote: > On 22 July 2011 16:43, Camaleón wrote: >> Uff, have you tried with another IDE cable? Those seem hardware errors. > > I installed the Debian system using this optical drive, so I think this > proves that my optical d

Re: Do I own an unsupported optical IDE drive?

2011-07-22 Thread Horace Dynamite
On 22 July 2011 16:43, Camaleón wrote: > Uff, have you tried with another IDE cable? Those seem hardware errors. I installed the Debian system using this optical drive, so I think this proves that my optical drive and IDE cable are working properly, for, it was only three days ago tha

Re: Do I own an unsupported optical IDE drive?

2011-07-22 Thread Camaleón
8] ata1: failed to resume link (SControl > ) > ; END ---- Uff, have you tried with another IDE cable? Those seem hardware errors. (...) > Am I right in thinking this implies my optical drive is not supported? > My current optical drive has an IDE interface, using this Ultra

Re: Do I own an unsupported optical IDE drive?

2011-07-21 Thread Horace Dynamite
om/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=16771 I can't see my optical drive in lspci, because I don't think this device is supported by this operating system. The IDE interface is the second line from the bottom. It's interesting that the revision is ff as opposed to 02 for everythin

Re: Do I own an unsupported optical IDE drive?

2011-07-21 Thread Chris Brennan
to resume link (SControl ) > ; END > > ... It goes on for a very long time, these errors are actually all I > can see in my dmesg. > > I can't mount ISO's, I think this is because my optical drive is not > supported (well, the IDE interface must be

Do I own an unsupported optical IDE drive?

2011-07-21 Thread Horace Dynamite
are actually all I can see in my dmesg. I can't mount ISO's, I think this is because my optical drive is not supported (well, the IDE interface must be using a weird chipset) My kernel is 2.6.32-5-amd64. Am I right in thinking this implies my optical drive is not supported? My curre

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-13 Thread Camaleón
rt Holtzman : >> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 06:48:28AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >>> Perhaps you one day will switch from an integrated graphics to a >> >>> graphics card, since your needs might change. Care about slots for >> >>> the futur

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-12 Thread Miles Bader
Camaleón writes: > I don't trust USB external enclosures that claim not needing > external power other than the common port or that use another USB > port to fetch it from there. They tend to lie... well, not "they" > but USB ports which do not always provide the full required voltage > and then i

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-12 Thread shawn wilson
ur needs might change. Care about slots for the >> > future, don't waste time with thinking about an IDE connector, the >> > industry has dropped IDE and they are going to drop PCI too. >> >> What will rplace PCI?` > > PCI-X. Duh. > yeah, iirc there were 2

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-12 Thread William Hopkins
t waste time with thinking about an IDE connector, the > > industry has dropped IDE and they are going to drop PCI too. > > What will rplace PCI?` PCI-X. Duh. -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-12 Thread shawn wilson
n integrated graphics to a > >>> graphics card, since your needs might change. Care about slots for the > >>> future, don't waste time with thinking about an IDE connector, the > >>> industry has dropped IDE and they are going to drop PCI too. > >

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-12 Thread William Hopkins
On 07/11/11 at 01:24pm, Camaleón wrote: > Marketing and I follow different ways... I still look for a motherbaord > that provides RS-232, LPT and Floppy "by default" O:-) Just a +1 for RS-232 support. Until desktops start coming with out-of-band management (iLO, etc.) serial is an absolute requir

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-12 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:01:29 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Camaleón writes: >> Another possibility is having an external optical unit, but it requires >> and extra power supply (that means more cables around) > > Hmm, actually modern optical external drives don't seem to need a power > supply, at

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-12 Thread Camaleón
e. Care about slots for the >>> future, don't waste time with thinking about an IDE connector, the >>> industry has dropped IDE and they are going to drop PCI too. >> >> What will rplace PCI?` >> >> > Wouldn't that be PCIE? unless there is some shin

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-12 Thread Miles Bader
Camaleón writes: > Another possibility is having an external optical unit, but it requires > and extra power supply (that means more cables around) Hmm, actually modern optical external drives don't seem to need a power supply, at least those that run off USB. I bought the _cheapest_ external o

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread darkestkhan
2011/7/11 Robert Holtzman : > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 06:48:28AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> Perhaps you one day will switch from an integrated graphics to a >> graphics card, since your needs might change. Care about slots for the >> future, don't waste time with think

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread darkestkhan
2011/7/11 Ralf Mardorf : > A last PS ;). > > If you do office work and browse the Internet you might not need a 64 > core CPU ;), so you could safe money to buy a new burner and you you > also will safe money in the future, because you reduce the CPU's > consumption. > > two possibilities: you mea

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 06:48:28AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Perhaps you one day will switch from an integrated graphics to a > graphics card, since your needs might change. Care about slots for the > future, don't waste time with thinking about an IDE connector, the > industr

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread shawn wilson
On Jul 11, 2011 4:07 PM, "William Hopkins" wrote: > > On 07/11/11 at 03:47pm, shawn wilson wrote: > > On Jul 11, 2011 3:30 PM, "William Hopkins" wrote: > > > > > > > > Don't get me started on not being able to find small HDDs anymore :P > > > > > > > I've got some 40 meg hdd's on my shelf (think

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread Lisi
On Monday 11 July 2011 20:20:06 Chris Brennan wrote: > On 7/11/2011 2:55 PM, William Hopkins wrote: > > On 07/10/11 at 03:09pm, mark wrote: > > I think the last time I was annoyed about such a change was when > > you couldn't get floppy drives anymore.. > > Wait! So you can't get floppy drives anym

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread William Hopkins
On 07/11/11 at 03:47pm, shawn wilson wrote: > On Jul 11, 2011 3:30 PM, "William Hopkins" wrote: > > > > > Don't get me started on not being able to find small HDDs anymore :P > > > > I've got some 40 meg hdd's on my shelf (think they're SCSI). I'll send you > one if you pay up front. I think the

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread shawn wilson
On Jul 11, 2011 3:48 PM, "Brian" wrote: > > On Mon 11 Jul 2011 at 14:55:41 -0400, William Hopkins wrote: > > > go sometime (: I think the last time I was annoyed about such a change was when > > you couldn't get floppy drives anymore.. > > 5.25" or 3.5"? > 7.25" :P

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread shawn wilson
On Jul 11, 2011 3:30 PM, "William Hopkins" wrote: > > Don't get me started on not being able to find small HDDs anymore :P > I've got some 40 meg hdd's on my shelf (think they're SCSI). I'll send you one if you pay up front. I think they're about 8 lbs :) But seriously, I've never had an issue

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread Brian
On Mon 11 Jul 2011 at 14:55:41 -0400, William Hopkins wrote: > go sometime (: I think the last time I was annoyed about such a change was > when > you couldn't get floppy drives anymore.. 5.25" or 3.5"? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsub

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread Doug
:P Tiger has floppy drives, both internal and external. The internal ones use ide (pata) connections, so you might need that card I mentioned a while back on this thread! The problem(s) with floppy disks: A lot of programs that you may have saved won't run on Windows 7, altho they will

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread William Hopkins
On 07/11/11 at 03:20pm, Chris Brennan wrote: > On 7/11/2011 2:55 PM, William Hopkins wrote: > > On 07/10/11 at 03:09pm, mark wrote: > > I think the last time I was annoyed about such a change was when > > you couldn't get floppy drives anymore.. > > > > Wait! So you can't get floppy drives anymor

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread Chris Brennan
On 7/11/2011 2:55 PM, William Hopkins wrote: > On 07/10/11 at 03:09pm, mark wrote: > I think the last time I was annoyed about such a change was when > you couldn't get floppy drives anymore.. > Wait! So you can't get floppy drives anymore!?! :P -- > Chris Brennan > -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you s

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread William Hopkins
On 07/10/11 at 03:09pm, mark wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for components for a new PC to install debian on. I've > been looking at motherboards (MSI & Gigabyte) and it seems that the > IDE interface no longer exists. Is no more IDE interface the new > directio

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread mark
On Monday 11 July 2011 9:24:36 am Camaleón wrote: > Another possibility is having an external optical unit, but it > requires and extra power supply (that means more cables around) and > occupies valuable space. > Aha! The cable monster. So far on my desk are: PC, monitor, speaker, telephone, p

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:32:45 +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Monday 11 July 2011 14:24:36 Camaleón wrote: >> > supplies), fdd, ps/2, etc. >> >> And don't forget our floppy best friend! :-) >>   >>   > erm... "fdd"!="floppy best friend" ;-) Ouch! Very true... I read it so fast that missed the smal

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread Lisi
On Monday 11 July 2011 14:24:36 Camaleón wrote: > > supplies), fdd, ps/2, etc. > > And don't forget our floppy best friend! :-) >   erm... "fdd"!="floppy best friend" ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contac

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-11 Thread Camaleón
been looking at motherboards (MSI & Gigabyte) and it seems that the >> > IDE interface no longer exists. Is no more IDE interface the new >> > direction for PCs so that I will have to buy a SATA burner? >> >> If you are buying components for a new PC I would discard

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