Re: Broken file system?

2025-04-13 Thread Nicolas George
pe...@easthope.ca (HE12025-04-13): > [0.463676] ---[ end Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root > fs on "/dev/sda6" or unknown-block(0,0) ]--- > My best guess is that the drive or file system is broken. My better guess is that your kernel does not see your d

Broken file system?

2025-04-13 Thread peter
(outside TXT) disabled by BIOS ... [0.463676] ---[ end Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on "/dev/sda6" or unknown-block(0,0) ]--- My best guess is that the drive or file system is broken. I can connect the drive to a working system and apply fsck. If that fails,

Re: Recovery help needed for remote server: file system mounted read-only

2024-12-30 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024, Tom Browder wrote: I've had this problem a long time ago, and don't remember how I recovered, but it was with help here. I suspect a failing disk, and I wonder if there is a hail Mary command I can do to force a reboot to see if it can recover on its own. I would almost wel

Re: Recovery help needed for remote server: file system mounted read-only

2024-12-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Tom Browder wrote: > On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 05:37 Alain D D Williams wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 05:29:05AM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > > > > > I suspect a failing disk, > > > > My main home PC is 10 years old and still going strong (I over specced it > > when > > I bought it). A few y

Re: Recovery help needed for remote server: file system mountedread-only

2024-12-30 Thread gene heskett
On 12/30/24 06:37, Alain D D Williams wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 05:29:05AM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: I suspect a failing disk, My main home PC is 10 years old and still going strong (I over specced it when I bought it). A few years ago I had what looked like disk problems (time outs, fa

Re: Recovery help needed for remote server: file system mounted read-only

2024-12-30 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 05:37 Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 05:29:05AM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > > > I suspect a failing disk, > > My main home PC is 10 years old and still going strong (I over specced it > when > I bought it). A few years ago I had what looked like disk p

Re: Recovery help needed for remote server: file system mounted read-only

2024-12-30 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 05:29:05AM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > I suspect a failing disk, My main home PC is 10 years old and still going strong (I over specced it when I bought it). A few years ago I had what looked like disk problems (time outs, failed writes, ...). I replaced the power supply a

Recovery help needed for remote server: file system mounted read-only

2024-12-30 Thread Tom Browder
I've had this problem a long time ago, and don't remember how I recovered, but it was with help here. I suspect a failing disk, and I wonder if there is a hail Mary command I can do to force a reboot to see if it can recover on its own. I would almost welcome starting over with a new server. I ca

Re: ext4 file system corruption - again

2024-09-26 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2024-09-23 16:10, Stefan Monnier wrote: root has been mounted 13 times without being checked, check forced. root: Inode 10748715, i_blocks is 281474976710631, should be 5. FIXED. ^^^ AKA -25 root: Inode 10751288, i_blocks is 281474976710647,

Re: ext4 file system corruption - again

2024-09-24 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2024-09-23 11:55, Arno Lehmann wrote: Am 23.09.2024 um 11:20 schrieb Jesper Dybdal: ... > root: Inode 10748715, i_blocks is 281474976710631, should be 5. FIXED. > root: Inode 10751288, i_blocks is 281474976710647, should be 3. FIXED. > root: 223986/32759808 files (6.5% non-contiguous), 6827061

Re: ext4 file system corruption - again

2024-09-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
> root has been mounted 13 times without being checked, check forced. > root: Inode 10748715, i_blocks is 281474976710631, should be 5. FIXED. ^^^ AKA -25 > root: Inode 10751288, i_blocks is 281474976710647, should be 3. FIXED.

Re: ext4 file system corruption - again

2024-09-23 Thread Arno Lehmann
sult in other things to notice -- for example, the file should be considered to be part of the file system structure and compressed, which fsck should loudly complain about (not verified). The large values with peculiar bit patterns do look like some flag values to me. It might be worth asking a

ext4 file system corruption - again

2024-09-23 Thread Jesper Dybdal
: Filsystemkorruption i ext4? I don't believe that it is a disk error - the file system is on a RAID1 partition and the RAID consistency is checked regularly. I also find it hard to believe that it is a RAM error - the mashine has run memtest86+ overnight without finding anything. There was a power outage

Re: btrfs snapshots (of root file system)?

2023-10-04 Thread hw
nd I'm not gona try to delete it before unmounting it. So how do you delete a subvolume? Why isn't the path adjusted when renaming it? That must be somehow buggy. > > with btrfs, how do I make a snapshot of the root file system? The > > purpose is to update software and bein

Re: btrfs snapshots (of root file system)?

2023-10-02 Thread Anders Andersson
On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 7:20 AM hw wrote: > > Hi, Hello! I'm not going into much detail but maybe I can guide you to better be able to find what you want. > with btrfs, how do I make a snapshot of the root file system? The > purpose is to update software and being able to go b

Fwd: btrfs snapshots (of root file system)?

2023-10-02 Thread Keith Bainbridge
Try ext4 All the best Keith BAINBRIDGE +61 (0)447 667 468 keithr...@gmail.com UTC + 10 >From my Apad -- Forwarded message - From: Keith Bainbridge Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023, 20:32 Subject: Re: btrfs snapshots (of root file system)? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org I

Re: btrfs snapshots (of root file system)?

2023-10-02 Thread Keith Bainbridge
; with btrfs, how do I make a snapshot of the root file system? The > purpose is to update software and being able to go back to a previous > state if necessary. > > There doesn't seem to be a command to create snapshots but only > subvolumes? How does a subvolume turn into a

Re: btrfs snapshots (of root file system)?

2023-10-01 Thread hw
On Sun, 2023-10-01 at 10:51 +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > hw wrote: > > Hi, > > > > with btrfs, how do I make a snapshot of the root file system? The > > purpose is to update software and being able to go back to a previous > > state if necessary.

Re: btrfs snapshots (of root file system)?

2023-10-01 Thread debian-user
hw wrote: > Hi, > > with btrfs, how do I make a snapshot of the root file system? The > purpose is to update software and being able to go back to a previous > state if necessary. > > There doesn't seem to be a command to create snapshots but only > subvolumes? H

btrfs snapshots (of root file system)?

2023-09-30 Thread hw
Hi, with btrfs, how do I make a snapshot of the root file system? The purpose is to update software and being able to go back to a previous state if necessary. There doesn't seem to be a command to create snapshots but only subvolumes? How does a subvolume turn into a snapshot? (The root

Re: Best file system to use?

2020-02-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 feb 20, 17:55:52, Dennis Wicks wrote: > Greetings; > > I have 4TB running on an AMD Ryzen under Buster. What is the current > consensus of the best file system to use for general data usage? I have been > using xfs but that is based on info from many years ago. If yo

Re: Best file system to use?

2020-02-13 Thread Tom Dial
ems, and gets much > less testing due to very low adoption. I don't personally recommend JFS > for any new deployment.) Recanted as to JFS and new installations. I overlooked that the last update (to jfsutils) was nearly 9 years ago, and it appears JFS was functionally stable almost from it

Re: Best file system to use?

2020-02-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 04:00:34PM -0700, Tom Dial wrote: > I think that ZFS, although different, is no less complicated or > inflexible than the other identified options. Adding mdraid > probably would not decrease complexity. It is far easier to reshape mdraid arrays (in terms of number

Re: Best file system to use?

2020-02-13 Thread Tom Dial
On 2/13/20 10:31, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Dennis, > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 05:55:52PM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: >> I have 4TB running on an AMD Ryzen under Buster. What is the current >> consensus of the best file system to use for general data usage? > > If yo

Re: Best file system to use?

2020-02-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 01:57:49PM -0700, Tom Dial wrote: XFS is excellent, and so also is JFS. Yes on XFS, no on JFS. (XFS is very actively developed; JFS is moribund, has no really compelling benefits over other filesytems, and gets much less testing due to very low adoption. I don't person

Re: Best file system to use?

2020-02-13 Thread Tom Dial
On 2/13/20 06:53, Didar Hossain wrote: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 12:18:42PM +0100, deloptes wrote: >> Dennis Wicks wrote: >> >>> I have been using xfs but that is based on info >>> from many years ago. >> >> If you have had no issues with xfs, why not use it in the future too? > > I have been us

Re: Best file system to use?

2020-02-13 Thread deloptes
Didar Hossain wrote: > I have been using XFS for data on dual HDD (RAID1->LVM->LUKS->XFS) on > Debian Stretch for more than a year, haven't experienced issues yet. OS is > on Ext4 on SDD. I use Urbackup (www.urbackup.org) to backup multiple > Windows machines to this box as well as Samba for simpl

Re: Best file system to use?

2020-02-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Dennis, On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 05:55:52PM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: > I have 4TB running on an AMD Ryzen under Buster. What is the current > consensus of the best file system to use for general data usage? If your 4TB isn't composed of at least one more drive for redundancy then

Re: Best file system to use?

2020-02-13 Thread Didar Hossain
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 12:18:42PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > Dennis Wicks wrote: > > > I have been using xfs but that is based on info > > from many years ago. > > If you have had no issues with xfs, why not use it in the future too? I have been using XFS for data on dual HDD (RAID1->LVM->LUKS->X

Re: Best file system to use?

2020-02-13 Thread deloptes
Dennis Wicks wrote: > I have been using xfs but that is based on info > from many years ago. If you have had no issues with xfs, why not use it in the future too?

Re: Best file system to use?

2020-02-12 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 13/02/2020 12:55, Dennis Wicks wrote: I have 4TB running on an AMD Ryzen under Buster. What is the current consensus of the best file system to use for general data usage? I have been using xfs but that is based on info from many years ago. With apologies to Samuel L Jackson (as Beaumont in

Re: Best file system to use?

2020-02-12 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-02-12 15:55, Dennis Wicks wrote: I have 4TB running on an AMD Ryzen under Buster. What is the current consensus of the best file system to use for general data usage? I have been using xfs but that is based on info from many years ago. I was using btrfs for system drives (boot, swap

Best file system to use?

2020-02-12 Thread Dennis Wicks
Greetings; I have 4TB running on an AMD Ryzen under Buster. What is the current consensus of the best file system to use for general data usage? I have been using xfs but that is based on info from many years ago. Many TIA! Dennis

Re: virtual device both is and isn't a valid file system [complete]

2019-05-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:20:47AM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > Noticing the "write on read-only" error, and remembering it should be > read-only, I added that to the mount options. Which still failed, but > differently: > root@barley:~/tempserver-check# date; strace -f mount -r > /dev

Re: virtual device both is and isn't a valid file system [solved]

2019-05-14 Thread Ross Boylan
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:20 AM Ross Boylan wrote: > > Noticing the "write on read-only" error, and remembering it should be > read-only, I added that to the mount options. Which still failed, but > differently: Well, it failed differently in the sense that it succeeded :) Yay! I was fooled by t

Re: virtual device both is and isn't a valid file system [complete]

2019-05-14 Thread Ross Boylan
Noticing the "write on read-only" error, and remembering it should be read-only, I added that to the mount options. Which still failed, but differently: root@barley:~/tempserver-check# date; strace -f mount -r /dev/stretch-vg/boot stretch_boot Tue 14 May 2019 10:07:05 AM PDT execve("/usr/bin/mount

Re: virtual device both is and isn't a valid file system [complete]

2019-05-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 09:52:10AM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > Here's the info: Nothing interesting in the strace output, short of: : ... mount("/dev/mapper/stretch--vg-boot", "/root/tempserver-check/stretch_boot", "ext4", 0, NULL) = -1 EIO (Input/output error) ... The reason being

Re: virtual device both is and isn't a valid file system [complete]

2019-05-14 Thread Ross Boylan
Here's the info: root@barley:~/tempserver-check# date; strace -f mount /dev/stretch-vg/boot stretch_boot Tue 14 May 2019 09:33:01 AM PDT execve("/usr/bin/mount", ["mount", "/dev/stretch-vg/boot", "stretch_boot"], 0x7ffed2c87238 /* 26 vars */) = 0 brk(NULL) = 0x5575487e

Re: virtual device both is and isn't a valid file system [complete]

2019-05-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 01:28:47PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-05-14, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > >> I am trying to read some files off of a virtual disk without running > >> the entire virtual machine. > > > > Can you post the output of (in that order): > > > > strace -f mount /de

Re: virtual device both is and isn't a valid file system [complete]

2019-05-14 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-14, Reco wrote: > Hi. > >> I am trying to read some files off of a virtual disk without running >> the entire virtual machine. > > Can you post the output of (in that order): > > strace -f mount /dev/stretch-vg/boot stretch_boot > dmesg | trail I looked for trail (it's not in my

Re: virtual device both is and isn't a valid file system [complete]

2019-05-14 Thread Reco
Hi. > I am trying to read some files off of a virtual disk without running > the entire virtual machine. Can you post the output of (in that order): strace -f mount /dev/stretch-vg/boot stretch_boot dmesg | trail e2fsck -fn /dev/stretch-vg/boot Reco

virtual device both is and isn't a valid file system [complete]

2019-05-14 Thread Ross Boylan
mpserver-check# parted /dev/nbd3 p Model: Unknown (unknown) Disk /dev/nbd3: 21.5GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: gpt Disk Flags: Number Start End SizeFile system Name Flags 1 1049kB 200MB 199MB bios_grub 2 200MB

virtual device both is and isn't a valid file system

2019-05-14 Thread Ross Boylan
When I attempt to mount a block device, I get the error: - root@barley:~/tempserver-check# date; mount /dev/stretch-vg/boot stretch_boot Mon 13 May 2019 11:42:15 PM PDT mount: /root/tempserver-check/stretch_boot: can't read superblock on /dev/mapper/stretch--vg-boot.

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-25 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 07:02 Tom Browder wrote: > > I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop which has > no installed OS on it. Again, thanks to all who offered help. I have my new Zareason laptop up and running! Basic specs: UltraLap 6440 i7 Processor: i7-8550U 8

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 08:39:25PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: If you intend to use guided partitioning on the whole disk, I repeat that LVM is worthless unless you plan to add disks in the future. I'd agree that It's utility is very much diminished by d-i allocating the entire VG with its gu

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Pascal Hambourg (2019-04-16 20:39:25) > Le 15/04/2019 à 16:38, Tom Browder a écrit : > > > > I have decided to use the Deb installer and select LVM during > > the clean installation, and accept the FS default (I assume it will be > > ext4, but if not, I will select it). > > If you intend

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-16 Thread Felix Miata
Jonathan Dowland composed on 2019-04-16 09:17 (UTC+0100): > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:38:12PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> Both DFSee and IBM >>BM use the last sector on the first track for data storage, including useful >>cataloging data. Even when not having IBM BM installed, its data sector i

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-16 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 15/04/2019 à 16:38, Tom Browder a écrit : I have decided to use the Deb installer and select LVM during the clean installation, and accept the FS default (I assume it will be ext4, but if not, I will select it). If you intend to use guided partitioning on the whole disk, I repeat that LVM

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:38:12PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Both DFSee and IBM BM use the last sector on the first track for data storage, including useful cataloging data. Even when not having IBM BM installed, its data sector is (optionally) used by DFSee, by me, always. So I gather that you

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-15 Thread Felix Miata
Jonathan Dowland composed on 2019-04-15 10:28 (UTC-0400): > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 05:36:00PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >>LVM's extra layer(s) would render my backup/restore system that depends in >>large >>part on cloning useless. > I don't quite understand this, would you care to elaborate?

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-15 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:50 AM Tom Browder wrote: > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and ... Thanks to all who have given me advice on selecting the file system for a new laptop. After considering all suggestions and my use of the laptop, I have decided

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 09:50:23AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. What in particular do you find attrac

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 05:36:00PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: LVM's extra layer(s) would render my backup/restore system that depends in large part on cloning useless. I don't quite understand this, would you care to elaborate? Thanks! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.n

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-13 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 08:26 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 12/04/2019 à 22:25, Thomas D Dial a écrit : > > I let the installer partition the USB key that was the install > > target > > and picked LVM, but specified distinct /, /usr/, /var, /home, and > > swap > > Why did you create a distinct

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-13 Thread Anders Andersson
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:51 PM Tom Browder wrote: > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. > > Can anyone recommend either one for a

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-13 Thread Anders Andersson
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:36 PM Felix Miata wrote: > > Tom Browder composed on 2019-04-12 09:50 (UTC-0500): > > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > > least one partion during my upcoming new

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-13 Thread Dan Ritter
Curt wrote: > On 2019-04-12, Thomas D Dial wrote: > > > > ZFS for /home makes sense, especially for anyone not already somewhat > > familiar with ZFS. > > Well, if ZFS is this big sixteen-wheeler that you might crash into the > concrete embankment if you're not careful, what are the benefits tha

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-13 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-12, Thomas D Dial wrote: > > ZFS for /home makes sense, especially for anyone not already somewhat > familiar with ZFS. Well, if ZFS is this big sixteen-wheeler that you might crash into the concrete embankment if you're not careful, what are the benefits that outweigh or override thes

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 12/04/2019 à 22:25, Thomas D Dial a écrit : I let the installer partition the USB key that was the install target and picked LVM, but specified distinct /, /usr/, /var, /home, and swap Why did you create a distinct volume for /usr ? partitions and left some empty space within the LVM volu

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread David Christensen
On 4/11/19 5:02 AM, Tom Browder wrote: I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop which has no installed OS on it. It comes with one 120 Gb SSD as its primary drive and has an empty bay where I will install a Samsung evo 860 1 Tb SSD. I would like to use a live image on

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Default User
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 18:07 Dan Ritter wrote: > Default User wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 12:43 Dan Ritter wrote: > > > And what about Btrfs? > > I don't currently recommend it in any situation where ZFS is an > option. That comes from 2 years of working with btrfs where > doing normal maint

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Default User wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 12:43 Dan Ritter wrote: > And what about Btrfs? I don't currently recommend it in any situation where ZFS is an option. That comes from 2 years of working with btrfs where doing normal maintenance ended up destroying data more than once. It may be be

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: > Your figures are virtually meaningless without any sort of breakdown > even into what's system and what's your documents. > yeah yeah ... use your imagination. Sqldeveloper, couple of virtual machines, some installation packages each of which is 1-2GB and so one Software fo

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Tom Browder wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > ... > > If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS > > is pretty easy to accomplish. > > Dan, I'm not trying to be obtuse, but when you say "experiment," do > you mean taking it for a ride like a new c

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Fri, 2019-04-12 at 12:43 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. > > > > Can an

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Apr 2019 at 21:42:51 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > We have a laptop that was used with windows for just under four > > years. Main applications are Office for excel/word/powerpoint, > > Outlook for email, Coreldraw for publication figures. Disk usage > > is approxi

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Felix Miata
Tom Browder composed on 2019-04-12 09:50 (UTC-0500): > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. Because of its snapshotting, BTRFS requir

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 12 Apr 2019 at 12:13:09 -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > ... > > If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS > > is pretty easy to accomplish. > > Dan, I'm not trying to be obtuse, but when you say "experiment," do > you

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Thomas D Dial
www.debian.org/CD/live/ The process (using the cp command on linux or functionally similar commands on Windows) creates a file system that you do not have reason to know or care about. The last one I used had a small EFI partition (type ef) and 2.4 GB marked empty that actually contained all the d

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
Greg Wooledge wrote: > A lot of people are still using cached knowledge from pre-jessie days. no you know at least one in the context of fdisk. I don't know why but I got the impression it does not understand GPT. Just 2 months ago I had to partition 5TB RAID5 disk and fdisk did not work. Perhap

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: > We have a laptop that was used with windows for just under four > years. Main applications are Office for excel/word/powerpoint, > Outlook for email, Coreldraw for publication figures. Disk usage > is approximately 90GB, of which the user's own files are 45GB, > in a partitio

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 12/04/2019 à 16:09, Tom Browder a écrit : M.2 SSD: 120GB M.2 SSD (included) Samsung SSD 860 EVO == V-NAND SSD SATA 6 Gb/s size: 1 Tb my plan is to use the small disk for Win 10 and the other for Debian If the small M.2 SSD has a NVMe or AHCI interface, it may be faster t

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Default User
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 12:43 Dan Ritter wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. > > > > Can anyone re

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Dan Ritter wrote: ... > If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS > is pretty easy to accomplish. Dan, I'm not trying to be obtuse, but when you say "experiment," do you mean taking it for a ride like a new car where one has to learn new cont

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Tom Browder wrote: > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. > > Can anyone recommend either one for a normal (non-developer, > non-hobb

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Apr 2019 at 10:05:58 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > Felix Miata wrote: > > >> No Win10 will not be happy with 120GB - better take 300GB from the large > >> disk for windows and the rest for data linux, windows or both > > > > I limit Win10 system partitions to 48GB, and disable paging. > >

New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Tom Browder
I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. Can anyone recommend either one for a normal (non-developer, non-hobbyiest) user who does backups and

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Felix Miata
deloptes composed on 2019-04-12 10:05 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata wrote: >>> No Win10 will not be happy with 120GB - better take 300GB from the large >>> disk for windows and the rest for data linux, windows or both >> I limit Win10 system partitions to 48GB, and disable paging. > You always want

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 10:01 PM David Christensen wrote: > Which model zareason laptop? > Which make, model, form factor, and interface 120 GB SSD? > Which form factor and interface Samsung EVO 860 1 TB SSD? > How much RAM? > Make and model WiFi interface? David, here are the specs on the lapto

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:07:04AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Why not ? Current versions support GPT. > > Thank you my fault - I have missed something It changed after wheezy. Wheezy's man page says: fdisk does not understand GUID partition tables (GPTs) an

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Why not ? Current versions support GPT. Thank you my fault - I have missed something

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-12 Thread deloptes
Felix Miata wrote: >> No Win10 will not be happy with 120GB - better take 300GB from the large >> disk for windows and the rest for data linux, windows or both > > I limit Win10 system partitions to 48GB, and disable paging. You always want to arge - but tell me how many applications or how much

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread David Christensen
On 4/11/19 5:02 AM, Tom Browder wrote: I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop which has no installed OS on it. It comes with one 120 Gb SSD as its primary drive and has an empty bay where I will install a Samsung evo 860 1 Tb SSD. Which model zareason laptop? Whic

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 11/04/2019 à 20:47, deloptes a écrit : fdisk is not suitable for GPT Why not ? Current versions support GPT.

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread Felix Miata
deloptes composed on 2019-04-11 20:47 (UTC+0200): > Tom Browder wrote: >> Given that I'm starting with two clean drives, my plan is to use the small >> disk for Win 10 and the other for Debian and maybe have a small partition >> to experiment with a BSD OS. > No Win10 will not be happy with 120G

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread deloptes
Tom Browder wrote: > I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop which > has no installed OS on it. > > It comes with one 120 Gb SSD as its primary drive and has an empty bay > where I will install a Samsung evo 860 1 Tb SSD. > > I would like to use a live image on a large

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Tom Browder wrote: > As I > understand it, I believe I can just copy the Debian CD live iso image file > onto the USB and it will be found and booted from fine. Not necessarily. The question is: found by what ? The computer's firmware (BIOS or EFI, i assume) will ignore such an ISO 9660 imag

New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

2019-04-11 Thread Tom Browder
I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop which has no installed OS on it. It comes with one 120 Gb SSD as its primary drive and has an empty bay where I will install a Samsung evo 860 1 Tb SSD. I would like to use a live image on a large USB for preparing the disks befor

Re: automating reactions to file system changes

2018-12-08 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, at 23:49, David Christensen wrote: > On Linux, the inotify(7) is an alternative to polling: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inotify Windows has event-driven ways to do this too, (one can] google for, for example, WMI and PowerShell event-based scripts)... but I'd have

Re: automating reactions to file system changes

2018-12-08 Thread David Christensen
On 12/8/18 3:55 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 03:48:56PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: On Linux, the inotify(7) is an alternative to polling: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inotify Specifically, I have had very good success with incron. Yes, incrond(8) and incr

Re: automating reactions to file system changes

2018-12-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 03:48:56PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On Linux, the inotify(7) is an alternative to polling: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inotify Specifically, I have had very good success with incron. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez

automating reactions to file system changes

2018-12-08 Thread David Christensen
ows. I guess a versioning file system (as discussed here fairly recently) would help, but I don't have one. Eventually I solved it with a script which examines a set of files (I specify a pattern for those) in the folder I'm working in. When it starts and every few second

Re: versioning file system

2018-10-30 Thread David Christensen
don't recall having problems with the VAX/VMS file system versioning feature. But, perhaps my use-case was simple enough that that I never ran into trouble. What problems did you have with it? David

Re: versioning file system

2018-10-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 09:47:33AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 07:54:17PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: It sounds like you never used VAX/VMS. No, it was decidedly before my time¹. I have. It was a PITA in practice, which is why other OSs didn't pick up the idea

Re: versioning file system

2018-10-30 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 07:54:17PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: It sounds like you never used VAX/VMS. No, it was decidedly before my time¹. But you seem to be mixed up on the point I'm making. I fully appreciate the potential utility of a versioning filesystem: heck, I'd love it if there wa

Re: versioning file system

2018-10-28 Thread David Christensen
work for a while, make some progress, make a wrong turn, and then make a mess. A versioning file system makes it easy to get back to "make some progress" and try a different turn. Yes. If the major hack can be limited to one file, I've been known to rely on Vim's undo capability

Re: versioning file system

2018-10-28 Thread Erik Christiansen
hen I work for a while, make some progress, make a wrong turn, > and then make a mess. A versioning file system makes it easy to get back to > "make some progress" and try a different turn. Yes. If the major hack can be limited to one file, I've been known to rely on Vim'

Re: versioning file system

2018-10-28 Thread David Christensen
On 10/28/18 11:35 AM, David Christensen wrote: Moving bike shed discussion off-list... On 10/28/18 7:42 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 02:46:16PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: I would postulate that most of us use what is provided OOTB -- e.g. by the Debian installer (d

Re: versioning file system

2018-10-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 02:46:16PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: I would postulate that most of us use what is provided OOTB -- e.g. by the Debian installer (d-i) -- and what is fully integrated/ supported into the distribution -- e.g. Apt, systemd, userspace, whatever. Perhaps when I said "

Re: versioning file system

2018-10-26 Thread David Christensen
e. With a versioning file system, the original file plus all the saves would be on disk. This makes it easy to pick through them using standard tools. git is a "standard tool" these days. Perhaps. But if the original file and all but the last save are in a version control system (VCS)

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