Re: fhs: where to mount other PCs ?

2005-09-12 Thread Dave Howorth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to fhs, where should I mount network shares, e.g. a share for data exchange within a company ? /mnt is for temporary use only, but I don't know a better place... Historically, I've always mounted them at /nfs/machine-name/whatever. The important p

Re: fhs: where to mount other PCs ?

2005-09-12 Thread Alvin Oga
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > > acctually you can mount them anywhere you want. i bet /mnt or /home . > > just dont mount them to /etc or /sbin or something, that would be > > too weird... the right place to mount media and other PCs over nfs is a pissing cont

Re: fhs: where to mount other PCs ?

2005-09-12 Thread Markus . Grunwald
Hello, > acctually you can mount them anywhere you want. i bet /mnt or /home . > just dont mount them to /etc or /sbin or something, that would be > too weird... I know I can mount everything where I want -- technically speaking. But the sense of the fhs (http://www.pathname.co

Re: fhs: where to mount other PCs ?

2005-09-12 Thread icmp
acctually you can mount them anywhere you want. i bet /mnt or /home . just dont mount them to /etc or /sbin or something, that would be too weird...   On 9/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hello,According to fhs, where should I mount network shares, e.g. a share f

fhs: where to mount other PCs ?

2005-09-12 Thread Markus . Grunwald
Hello, According to fhs, where should I mount network shares, e.g. a share for data exchange within a company ? /mnt is for temporary use only, but I don't know a better place... cu Markus Grunwald -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: FHS and other things Mark should have read with comprehension (was Re: unchecked 31 times)

2003-12-04 Thread Mark Ferlatte
cleared between system boots, and is > > > appropriate for data which *must* not be preserved between boots. The > > > definitions are not identical, the directories are not equivalent. > > > > Your definition above is much stricter than what the FHS actually says, and &g

Re: FHS and other things Mark should have read with comprehension (was Re: unchecked 31 times)

2003-12-04 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Marc Wilson said on Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:01:12PM -0800: > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:17:52PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > > Minor nit: netatalk requires a device node in /var to support Appletalk > > printing. Admittedly, for most people, this is not an issue. > > Not arguing, but what device

Re: FHS and other things Mark should have read with comprehension (was Re: unchecked 31 times)

2003-12-04 Thread Michael D Schleif
"Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:12:03:06:15:29-0800] scribed: > > See, variously, the FHS, and my own partitioning guidelines: > > http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/NixPartitioning Since Debian places logfiles under /var/log, I always create a sepa

Re: FHS and other things Mark should have read with comprehension (was Re: unchecked 31 times)

2003-12-04 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:17:52PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Karsten M. Self said on Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 06:15:29AM -0800: > > See, variously, the FHS, and my own partitioning guidelines: > > > > http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/NixPartitioning >

Re: FHS and other things Mark should have read with comprehension (was Re: unchecked 31 times)

2003-12-04 Thread Marc Wilson
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:17:52PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > Minor nit: netatalk requires a device node in /var to support Appletalk > printing. Admittedly, for most people, this is not an issue. Not arguing, but what device node? Where? When did this start? What creates it? The package d

Re: FHS and other things Mark should have read with comprehension (was Re: unchecked 31 times)

2003-12-03 Thread Paul Morgan
On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 06:15:29 -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > You're strongly counseled to read standard texts on Unix administration > such as Nemeth, et al. > > > Peace. I think there's a text called "Bugs and Daffy Go Filesystem Partitioning" which might be a good place to start. :> --

Re: FHS and other things Mark should have read with comprehension (was Re: unchecked 31 times)

2003-12-03 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Karsten M. Self said on Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 06:15:29AM -0800: > See, variously, the FHS, and my own partitioning guidelines: > > http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/NixPartitioning Good page. I should have known about the Jihad. > - /var need only be writeable and executable (n

FHS and other things Mark should have read with comprehension (was Re: unchecked 31 times)

2003-12-03 Thread Karsten M. Self
t; Is there any need for a /boot partition on modern hardware? Why do you > > > like a seperate boot partition? > > > > > > I'm just curious as to the reasoning behind your partitioning scheme. > > > > > > M > > > > FHS says "The co

Re: FHS question

2003-08-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom Allison wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > >Tom Allison wrote: > >>FHS says that this directory is for "binaries not needed in single user > >>mode". > >>But then I went over and looked at the /opt which also seemed rather > >>reasonable as

Re: FHS question

2003-08-03 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 07:18:45AM -0400, Tom Allison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > >On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 02:35:44AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > > > >>FHS says that this directory is for "binaries not needed in single > >>user mode&quo

Re: FHS question

2003-08-01 Thread Todd Pytel
Tom, On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 07:18:45 -0400 Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wouldn't it be possible to utilize /opt for big packages (open office, > > mozilla, KDE, Gnome, Java) and still leave /opt for system > administrators? > > I kind of like the idea of putting what you need for the b

Re: FHS question

2003-08-01 Thread John Hasler
Tom writes: > Wouldn't it be possible to utilize /opt for big packages (open office, > mozilla, KDE, Gnome, Java) and still leave /opt for system > administrators? That would violate the FHS. /opt was invented by the proprietary Unices. The FHS includes it as a concession to so

Re: FHS question

2003-08-01 Thread Tom Allison
Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 02:35:44AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: FHS says that this directory is for "binaries not needed in single user mode". But then I went over and looked at the /opt which also seemed rather reasonable as a place to put things. It also seems a

Re: FHS question

2003-08-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 02:35:44AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > FHS says that this directory is for "binaries not needed in single user > mode". > But then I went over and looked at the /opt which also seemed rather > reasonable as a place to put things. > > It also

FHS question

2003-07-31 Thread Tom Allison
I was trolling through the Debain Policy Manual and then the referenced FHS and came up wit a question. This is just an example. openoffice is installed from .debs that I obtained (I believe) from a non-debian sanctioned location: deb http://ftp.sk.debian.org/openoffice-debian/ stable main

Re: FHS, Policy, /var/local, places to put multiple CVS repositories

2002-11-13 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"martin" == martin f krafft writes: martin> I usually use /home/cvs/ in case you are martin> interested. Colin Watson also suggested this, and I think I will go with this. Thanks to all for the suggestions. Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: FHS, Policy, /var/local, places to put multiple CVS repositories

2002-11-13 Thread Mathias Gygax
it? my guess for complete FHS compliance is to put it into /var/local to accord to the /usr/local rule for everything put into a local directory which is specific to your machine. /home may be right also, but is usually linked to existing users. > Can I put the new repositories in /var/local? Wha

Re: FHS, Policy, /var/local, places to put multiple CVS repositories

2002-11-13 Thread Colin Watson
n symlink > > /var/lib/cvs to /cvs/firstgroup, and then you don't even the folks > > who've already been using your cvs server! > > ... which is not compliant with the FHS standard, so at least it won't > be made official. Yeah, but see my comments on who the F

Re: FHS, Policy, /var/local, places to put multiple CVS repositories

2002-11-12 Thread martin f krafft
he folks > who've already been using your cvs server! ... which is not compliant with the FHS standard, so at least it won't be made official. I usually use /home/cvs/ in case you are interested. -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud D

Re: FHS, Policy, /var/local, places to put multiple CVS repositories

2002-11-12 Thread sean finney
hiya, building from the previous post, i'd suggest saving the keystrokes and putting them into subdirectories in /cvs. you could then symlink /var/lib/cvs to /cvs/firstgroup, and then you don't even the folks who've already been using your cvs server! --sean msg12609/pgp0.pgp Description:

Re: FHS, Policy, /var/local, places to put multiple CVS repositories

2002-11-12 Thread Colin Watson
re in /home - /home/cvs, maybe? Don't worry too much about Debian policy and the FHS, other than keeping out of the way of places they label as being for system use; they're documents that distributions have to worry about, not really users. For instance, the debian.org machines keep al

FHS, Policy, /var/local, places to put multiple CVS repositories

2002-11-12 Thread Shyamal Prasad
nt to know what the "best practice" is. I read the policy and FHS manuals but came away unsure. It seems that the repositories should not be in their own subdirectories of /var/lib. FHS suggests that subdirectories in /var/lib shold be per package, with the exception of /var/lib/misc. So c

Re: FHS: PATH and /opt

2002-06-23 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Jun 21, 2002, Jerome BENOIT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Bonjour, > > I have just install the "/opt" directory, > and I wonder where to put the directory "/opt/bin" > in the ENV_PATH varibles (defined in `/etc/login.defs'. /opt is a "local variants" convention. Depending on which side of

FHS: PATH and /opt

2002-06-21 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Bonjour, I have just install the "/opt" directory, and I wonder where to put the directory "/opt/bin" in the ENV_PATH varibles (defined in `/etc/login.defs'. Thanks in advance, Jerome BENOIT -- Jerome BENOIT, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subjec

RE: FHS & LSB Compliance

2002-06-20 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 20-Jun-2002 Matthew Tedder wrote: > > How compliant with the FHS and LSB standards is Debian to date? > Also, is LVM and ReiserFS available? > We are about as FHS as one can be. The LSB is still getting fleshed out, we are fairly conforming but not perfect yet. My understan

FHS & LSB Compliance

2002-06-20 Thread Matthew Tedder
How compliant with the FHS and LSB standards is Debian to date? Also, is LVM and ReiserFS available? Matthew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: fhs

2002-05-27 Thread Colin Watson
mpliant with the FHS. The question is: How can i fix the "wrong > machines"? How can i clean up my rootfs, change the symlinks to fit my > needs and etc??? I know that this is a hard job, and there are not > formula... but i don't know how can i start! :) Do you know about

fhs

2002-05-27 Thread O Senhor
the FHS. The question is: How can i fix the "wrong machines"? How can i clean up my rootfs, change the symlinks to fit my needs and etc??? I know that this is a hard job, and there are not formula... but i don't know how can i start! :) Do you know about scripts that would help

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-23 Thread Karsten M. Self
think that we need a /media hierarchy. and from what i > > can tell, that's the current state on the fhs-discuss mailing list. > > /media for all kinds of removable media, a subdirectory for each > > therein, and /mnt as a temporary mount point, and nothing more! > > I

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-23 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 11:08 AM +0100, martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Note three, that the FHS _doesn't_ proscribe inclusion of additional > > mount points, directories, etc., at root (/). It merely speaks to those > > directories which are required or

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-23 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 10:48 PM +0100, martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > also sprach Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.22.1919 +0100]: > > My point is, it's a stupid design decision that (thankfully) is being > > corrected, but MS isn't the only group of people guilty of this

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-23 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 01:31 AM +0100, martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > also sprach Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.22.0121 +0100]: > > You know, MS isn't the only one that does this... the Linux SCSI > > implementation would assign /dev/sda to the lowest SCSI ID on the cha

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-22 Thread Joey Hess
Mark Ferlatte wrote: > True. But passing commandline args and editing fstab is still annoying > behavior... ideally, if I had a new disk and reboot, _nothing_ should > change with respect to my old disks. Then you probably want to put UUID's in your fstab. man fstab. -- see shy jo

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-22 Thread Mark Ferlatte
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 05:32:23PM -0500, Rob Mahurin wrote (1.00): > In this case, wouldn't you just put the new disk at the end of the > chain (sd[last] rather than sd[first])? Well, ideally you don't have any kind of order: /dev/bus/scsi/0/1 would be the device with id 0, partition 1. This i

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-22 Thread Rob Mahurin
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 02:04:20PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > True. But passing commandline args and editing fstab is still annoying > behavior... ideally, if I had a new disk and reboot, _nothing_ should > change with respect to my old disks. In this case, wouldn't you just put the new disk a

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-22 Thread Mark Ferlatte
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 10:48:58PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote (1.00): > at lilo: linux root=/dev/sdb1 True enough. If you use grub, then it's even less of a problem. > if sda just moved to sdb. you need to boot anyway, and once you made it > to the prompt, you change lilo.conf (sorry, left tha

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-22 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.22.1919 +0100]: > A complete inability to boot because the root partition is now > elsewhere. at lilo: linux root=/dev/sdb1 if sda just moved to sdb. you need to boot anyway, and once you made it to the prompt, you change lilo.conf (sorry, le

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-22 Thread Mark Ferlatte
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 01:31:29AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote (1.00): > > drives you've already had, all of your drive letters would move up by > > one, 'causing no end of trouble. > > a short edit of /etc/fstab > a possible recreation of a symlink in /dev, or two, or three > > what else? A co

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-22 Thread Alan Chandler
es such as backups, which one presumably > > would not make of temporarially mounted, removeable, storage. > ... > > instead, i really think that we need a /media hierarchy. and from what i > can tell, that's the current state on the fhs-discuss mailing list. > /media for all

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.22.0121 +0100]: > You know, MS isn't the only one that does this... the Linux SCSI > implementation would assign /dev/sda to the lowest SCSI ID on the chain, > so if you went back and added a new drive who's ID was lower than the > drives you'v

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-21 Thread Mark Ferlatte
On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 06:21:26PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote (1.00): > - Drive letters (yes you can map around them) restrict you to 26 disks. > Including remote maps. Driveletters move (often arbitrarially) when > devices are added and removed. You know, MS isn't the only one that d

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-21 Thread ben
y Debian. > > > Note too, from a system management perspective, use of /mnt gives a > > single point of control for issues such as backups, which one presumably > > would not make of temporarially mounted, removeable, storage. > > yes. i'll get to that. > > > Note

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-21 Thread martin f krafft
for issues such as backups, which one presumably > would not make of temporarially mounted, removeable, storage. yes. i'll get to that. > Note three, that the FHS _doesn't_ proscribe inclusion of additional > mount points, directories, etc., at root (/). It merely speaks to t

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-21 Thread Randy Orrison
On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 02:07, Mark Blunier wrote: > However, if a program > needs to mount a file system temporarily, it needs to know of a > place that it can assume is 'safe'. [presuming /mnt is available for that purpose, and doesn't have other stuff under it] Unless, of course, another progra

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 05:39:13PM -0800, ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sunday 20 January 2002 03:51 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > Assuming you've only got one of something sounds so...Microsoft. > > assuming that i've got only one...? sounds like a lame construction of > whatever point

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-20 Thread Mark Blunier
Previously Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com): > ...and if you have an arrray of 100 CDRs? Should you have /cdrom[0-99] > or /mnt/cdrom[0-99]? I'd prefer the latter. Then do the latter, its your choice. However, if a program needs to mount a file system temporarily, it needs to know of a

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-20 Thread ben
On Sunday 20 January 2002 03:51 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > Assuming you've only got one of something sounds so...Microsoft. > assuming that i've got only one...? sounds like a lame construction of whatever point you're trying to make. unusual lack of cogency in this post, karsten. > Peace.

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
mountable peripherals. Before, I haved symbolic links in '/' to these > > directories. I removed them to make '/' cleaner. > > which is exactly the point, and which violates the FHS: > > section 3.11: "/mnt : Mount point for a temporarily mounted filesystem&quo

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 02:35:58AM -0800, ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tuesday 15 January 2002 02:06 am, martin f krafft wrote: > i agree. it was one of the pleasures of discovering debian to find that > something i had always considered redundant was not employed in the debian > filesyst

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:32:54PM -0500, Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > ben wrote: > > i agree. it was one of the pleasures of discovering debian to find that > > something i had always considered redundant was not employed in the debian > > filesystem. why shouldn't floppies and other r

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Romuald DELAVERGNE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.17.0958 +0100]: > If we respect the FHS like this, you are right. > But perhaps the FHS is too old on severals points and need to evoluate ? which is what we're doing AFAIK... -- martin; (greetings from

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.17.1320 +0100]: > this is getting really fucking boring. the fhs, just like the government, > should restrict its intrusion into my life to the point of the most minimal, > not maximal, necessity. let the fhs set up a criteria based

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.17.0541 +0100]: > Wouldn't this usually go in /var? Say, /var/mirrors? which would also offend the FHS, section 5.1 "Applications must generally not add directories to the top level of /var. Such directories should on

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-17 Thread ben
e sense to have a mount point for one > > > filesystem but not for few of them. > > > > as others have said and suggested, i also rarely use /mnt. if i need a > > mount point, i'll quickly create one on the fly. i believe there are > > the question was _WHE

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-17 Thread Erik Steffl
or few of them. > > as others have said and suggested, i also rarely use /mnt. if i need a > mount point, i'll quickly create one on the fly. i believe there are the question was _WHERE_ (with implied: so that it doesn't break FHS). [we are not talking about mount for one user,

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-17 Thread Romuald DELAVERGNE
ystems. > If we respect the FHS like this, you are right. But perhaps the FHS is too old on severals points and need to evoluate ?

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:34:01 -0500 Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote: > > As an example: before I read the FHS, I set up a local mirror of the > > Debian packages using apt-move. I decided to create a root level > > directory /mirror and to pu

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-16 Thread Joey Hess
Paul E Condon wrote: > As an example: before I read the FHS, I set up a local mirror of the > Debian packages using apt-move. I decided to create a root level > directory /mirror and to put in it a directory /mirror/debian, but when > I read FHS, I started wondering if I might be creat

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-16 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > also sprach Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.17.0056 +0100]: ... Where should "real work" stuff go within the FHS? I wonder... > > /home. you should not use anything else for work. everything else is >

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.17.0056 +0100]: > As an example: before I read the FHS, I set up a local mirror of the > Debian packages using apt-move. I decided to create a root level > directory /mirror and to put in it a directory /mirror/debian, but when

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-16 Thread Paul E Condon
> I'm not sure that this comment really applies to this post, but it does apply to this thread: /floppy and /mnt are an example of a more general question about FHS, namely: What advise does it offer concerning where to put databases, web server stuff, etc. ? In general there is the s

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-16 Thread Craig Dickson
martin f krafft wrote: > as others have said and suggested, i also rarely use /mnt. if i need a > mount point, i'll quickly create one on the fly. i believe there are > even versions of mount out there that don't need an existing directory. > i just wrapped mount and umount it in scripts that crea

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.16.2306 +0100]: > if you have more then one temporarily mounted filesystem, where do you > mount it? It does not make sense to have a mount point for one > filesystem but not for few of them. as others have said and suggested, i also rarely us

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-16 Thread Erik Steffl
' to these > > directories. I removed them to make '/' cleaner. > > which is exactly the point, and which violates the FHS: > > section 3.11: "/mnt : Mount point for a temporarily mounted filesystem" > ^ >

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy [offtopic]

2002-01-16 Thread Dave Blau
- Original Message - From: "Thomas Sippel - Dau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "martin f krafft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Debian User List" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 08:46 Subject: Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy [snip

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-16 Thread martin f krafft
; > another partition on /mnt. byebye cdrom, byebye floppy. > > Yes I know. I just use '/mnt' as a directory which contains directories for > all mountable peripherals. Before, I haved symbolic links in '/' to these > directories. I removed them to make '/&#

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-16 Thread Romuald DELAVERGNE
Le 2002.01.16 16:17, martin f krafft a écrit : > exaclty. but say you have /mnt/cdrom and /mnt/floppy, and both mounted, > and now you want to make proper use of what /mnt is, and you mount > another partition on /mnt. byebye cdrom, byebye floppy. > Yes I know. I just use '/mnt' as a directory wh

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Romuald DELAVERGNE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.16.1501 +0100]: > Yes but if you want to mount several peripherals at the same moment, '/mnt' > is not enough. exaclty. but say you have /mnt/cdrom and /mnt/floppy, and both mounted, and now you want to make proper use of what /mnt is, an

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-16 Thread Romuald DELAVERGNE
Le 2002.01.16 14:43, martin f krafft a écrit : > > but /mnt *is* the mount point. noone objects if you moung your floppy > on /mnt, but i object, as do many others, if you mount on /mnt/floppy. > Yes but if you want to mount several peripherals at the same moment, '/mnt' is not enough.

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Romuald DELAVERGNE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.16.1011 +0100]: > Le 2002.01.15 11:06, martin f krafft a écrit : > > then, look at section 3.11: > > "/mnt : Mount point for a temporarily mounted filesystem" > > > > For me, floppy or cdrom are always temporarily mounted.

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-16 Thread Romuald DELAVERGNE
Le 2002.01.15 11:06, martin f krafft a écrit : > then, look at section 3.11: > "/mnt : Mount point for a temporarily mounted filesystem" > For me, floppy or cdrom are always temporarily mounted. Romuald.

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-15 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 10:15:37AM -0800, ben wrote: > On Tuesday 15 January 2002 06:30 am, John Hasler wrote: > [snip] > > A better fix would be adding a directory to contain mount points for > > removable filesystems. The FHS should not mention specific types of > >

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-15 Thread ben
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 06:30 am, John Hasler wrote: [snip] > A better fix would be adding a directory to contain mount points for > removable filesystems. The FHS should not mention specific types of > hardware. why not?

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-15 Thread Joey Hess
ben wrote: > i agree. it was one of the pleasures of discovering debian to find that > something i had always considered redundant was not employed in the debian > filesystem. why shouldn't floppies and other removable media be visible at > the root level? Conversly, what is so important about

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-15 Thread Thomas Sippel - Dau
ng done by some already -- e.g. /mnt/cdrom). However, IIRC > > this didn't make up in FHS 2.2 because there were no consensus about > > the _name_ that should be reserved to that directory. Some proposed > > names I remember were /vol, /misc, and /media (I'm sure there we

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Flavio Veloso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.15.1551 +0100]: > This already was discussed on the FHS-discuss mailing list. i am sorry, i could not find it in the archives. i am now subscribed, this shan't happen again... > The main argument against placing such direc

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-15 Thread Flavio Veloso
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, martin f krafft wrote: > i am writing to you, spawned by a thread we are having on the debian-user > mailing list[1]. it's basically addressing the lack of inclusion of mount > points like /floppy and /cdrom in the FHS. even though the FHS prohibits >

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-15 Thread Andras Simonyi
ss. first of all, please > > show me where the FHS supposedly dictates those two mount points into > > /mnt? > > then, look at section 3.11: > > "/mnt : Mount point for a temporarily mounted filesystem" > > and that's exactly what it's for. so you

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-15 Thread John Hasler
Paul E Condon writes: > I think the appearance of prohibition is really a problem of wording in > the FHS. It might be fixed by adding /cdrom, and /floppy to the list of > things that may be put in /. A better fix would be adding a directory to contain mount points for removable filesyst

Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-15 Thread martin f krafft
Dear FHS people, i am writing to you, spawned by a thread we are having on the debian-user mailing list[1]. it's basically addressing the lack of inclusion of mount points like /floppy and /cdrom in the FHS. even though the FHS prohibits placing *anything* (directories actually) into /

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-15 Thread Paul E Condon
martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Andras Simonyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.14.1733 +0100]: > > I can't help asking this concerning Debian's FHS compliance: why on > > earth make all the Debian-versions the mount-points of removable media > > in th

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-15 Thread ben
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 02:06 am, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Andras Simonyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.14.1733 +0100]: > > I can't help asking this concerning Debian's FHS compliance: why on > > earth make all the Debian-versions the mount-points of

Re: Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Andras Simonyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.14.1733 +0100]: > I can't help asking this concerning Debian's FHS compliance: why on > earth make all the Debian-versions the mount-points of removable media > in the root directory instead of /mnt/, which is the r

Debian, FHS & /floppy

2002-01-15 Thread Andras Simonyi
Hello, I can't help asking this concerning Debian's FHS compliance: why on earth make all the Debian-versions the mount-points of removable media in the root directory instead of /mnt/, which is the required standard in FHS? Of course I can change /cdrom and /floppy to /mnt/cdrom etc,

alien 7.30 and the FHS

2001-11-07 Thread Joey Hess
y new packages produced by this new version of alien (in Incoming) will have anything in those directories moved to FHS complient locations. This is handy, since there are plenty of non-FHS-complient rpms and stuff out there. The upshot is that if you want to complete the /usr/man and /usr/do

q ad chrooted named and the FHS

2001-08-31 Thread Robert Waldner
Hi! I´m gonna get security a bit up and set up bind chroot()ed. No big deal, actually, but I want to conform with the FHS on that and can´t quite figure out where I´d put the chroot in my "normal" FS-hierarchy. Right now it resides in /var/local/bind, ´cause that´s my best gu

Re: Where to put stuff .. FHS

2001-08-13 Thread Dave Sherohman
. > I've had a look at some FHS info and am still unclear where > the preferred location for my data is, and what the implications > are for partitioning disks. User data goes in your home directory. Make /home big enough to handle all of it. -- With the arrest of Dimitry Sklyarov

Re: Where to put stuff .. FHS

2001-08-13 Thread Michael B. Taylor
llection of image files, as well as accounting stuff, metadata on > image files, directories for client projects etc. > > I've had a look at some FHS info and am still unclear where > the preferred location for my data is, and what the implications > are for partitioning disk

Where to put stuff .. FHS

2001-08-13 Thread Kent Tenney
jects etc. I've had a look at some FHS info and am still unclear where the preferred location for my data is, and what the implications are for partitioning disks. I prefer not to restructure later on. I would appreciate any help on how to set up for flexibility in backing up, upgrading hard

Re: FHS-compliant location of X backgrounds?

1998-07-29 Thread Razathorn
On Tue, Jul 28, 1998 at 01:15:05PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 1998 at 12:11:30AM -0400, Shaleh wrote: > > As I recall, the FHS states that lib dirs are for libs (what you define > > a lib could be up for a debate) only. Someone care to wave the FHS > > u

Re: FHS-compliant location of X backgrounds?

1998-07-28 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Jul 28, 1998 at 12:11:30AM -0400, Shaleh wrote: > As I recall, the FHS states that lib dirs are for libs (what you define > a lib could be up for a debate) only. Someone care to wave the FHS > under my nose and show me wrong (-: I think this has to do with the fact that we now

Re: FHS-compliant location of X backgrounds?

1998-07-28 Thread Shaleh
As I recall, the FHS states that lib dirs are for libs (what you define a lib could be up for a debate) only. Someone care to wave the FHS under my nose and show me wrong (-: -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null

Re: FHS-compliant location of X backgrounds?

1998-07-28 Thread Razathorn
On Mon, Jul 27, 1998 at 11:45:32PM -0400, Shaleh wrote: > 1) /usr/local is fair game -- do as you wish. > > 2) ANY lib directory is WRONG for anything but libs. > > /usr/local/pix is a good choice. Or if you must: /usr/local/share/pix > or bgs. > I disagree with #2 -- /usr/lib has many directo

Re: FHS-compliant location of X backgrounds?

1998-07-28 Thread Shaleh
1) /usr/local is fair game -- do as you wish. 2) ANY lib directory is WRONG for anything but libs. /usr/local/pix is a good choice. Or if you must: /usr/local/share/pix or bgs. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null

FHS-compliant location of X backgrounds?

1998-07-28 Thread the lone gunman
I have some nice images that I have setup as the default desktop background in X (the default image for the root window) on my system. I was wondering if anyone knows the correct, FHS-compliant place to store these? I was thinking something as in "/usr/local/lib" or something of s

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