Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-06 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 5 Aug 2024 23:51 -0500, from deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk (David Wright): > Possibly because people aren't warned against using it unless they're > on a network that is already using it for Microsoft servers. It would > be simple to add such a warning to the screen below, and perhaps some > advice o

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Aug 2024 at 12:59:45 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 06:40:32PM +1000, George at Clug wrote: > > I believe ICCAN are moving to possibly replacing .local, .home, .lan, > > .corp, .mail, .localdomain, (and possibly others) with .internal ? > > home.arpa was defined by

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-04 Thread Dan Ritter
George at Clug wrote: > It is not iptables anymore, it is nftables. It is not 'reboot' or 'shutdown > -r now' it is 'systemctl reboot', it is not syslog it is journalctl. iptables still exists, and it calls nftables to do the work underneath. If you are using systemd, it's systemctl reboot,

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-04 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Sunday 04 August 2024 09:54:07 am George at Clug wrote: > > > I have been traumatised by things changing. Just when I think I know > something, someone goes and changes it. > Yeah, I keep seeing things changed to something new, and wonder why the heck I need that... -- Member of the to

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-04 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 5 Aug 2024 00:34 +1000, from c...@goproject.info (George at Clug): >> Standards don't tend to be abolished unless there's a good reason. >> There wasn't a standard before home.arpa. Since 2013 it's been "use >> your own globally unique registered domain, or else use home.arpa". The RFC specifyi

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-04 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 4 Aug 2024 14:35 +0100, from j...@jretrading.com (Joe): > Exactly. I've run a DHCP server since about 2010, and used one of my > own domain names in my network since 2006. Using a domain name that you control has never been problematic. Or, well, for as long as DNS has been a thing at least (pr

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-04 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 05-08-2024 at 00:19 Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Aug 04, 2024 at 11:54:07PM +1000, George at Clug wrote: > > On Sunday, 04-08-2024 at 22:59 Andy Smith wrote: > > > So I want to emphasise again that while standards are useful so > > > we're all on the same page, in this particu

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Aug 04, 2024 at 11:54:07PM +1000, George at Clug wrote: > On Sunday, 04-08-2024 at 22:59 Andy Smith wrote: > > So I want to emphasise again that while standards are useful so > > we're all on the same page, in this particular case it's not a big > > deal, likely nothing terribly bad is

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-04 Thread George at Clug
On Sunday, 04-08-2024 at 22:59 Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 10:08:55PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On 8/3/24 09:00, Andy Smith wrote: > > > > If you use .local for other things it can interfere with mDNS but > > > > picking almost anything else has very few repe

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-04 Thread Joe
On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 12:59:55 + Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 10:08:55PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On 8/3/24 09:00, Andy Smith wrote: > > > > If you use .local for other things it can interfere with mDNS > > > > but picking almost anything else has very few

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 10:08:55PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On 8/3/24 09:00, Andy Smith wrote: > > > If you use .local for other things it can interfere with mDNS but > > > picking almost anything else has very few repercussions (unless you > > > are very silly about it), so I don't

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread gene heskett
On 8/3/24 18:09, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 04:10:33PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/3/24 09:00, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, [Very interesting Stuff snipped about ICANN and domain suffixes] If you use .local for other things it can interfere with mDNS but picking almost a

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 04:10:33PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/3/24 09:00, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > [Very interesting Stuff snipped about ICANN and domain suffixes] > > > > If you use .local for other things it can interfere with mDNS but > > picking almost anything else has very few

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 3 Aug 2024 22:22 +0100, from mick.cr...@gmail.com (mick.crane): > I was going to change everything yet again to home.arpa but now it might be > .internal? To use .home.arpa is absolutely fine if you don't need (or want) globally unique names. It has been properly assigned specifically for "non-

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 10:22:43PM +0100, mick.crane wrote: > Initially the advice was .home. Then I think BT started using that on mobile > network. > Then they said use .local. then they said use .home. I don't recall anything about .home being recommended, but yeah Microsoft did suggest .l

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-08-03 19:57, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 3 Aug 2024 12:59 +, from a...@strugglers.net (Andy Smith): I believe ICCAN are moving to possibly replacing .local, .home, .lan, .corp, .mail, .localdomain, (and possibly others) with .internal ? home.arpa was defined by IANA in 2018. If they

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread gene heskett
On 8/3/24 09:00, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 06:40:32PM +1000, George at Clug wrote: I believe ICCAN are moving to possibly replacing .local, .home, .lan, .corp, .mail, .localdomain, (and possibly others) with .internal ? home.arpa was defined by IANA in 2018. If they go ahe

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 3 Aug 2024 12:59 +, from a...@strugglers.net (Andy Smith): >> I believe ICCAN are moving to possibly replacing .local, .home, .lan, >> .corp, .mail, .localdomain, (and possibly others) with .internal ? > > home.arpa was defined by IANA in 2018. If they go ahead with > .internal then I can o

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 06:40:32PM +1000, George at Clug wrote: > I believe ICCAN are moving to possibly replacing .local, .home, .lan, > .corp, .mail, .localdomain, (and possibly others) with .internal ? home.arpa was defined by IANA in 2018. If they go ahead with .internal then I can only i

Re: dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread jeremy ardley
On 3/8/24 16:40, George at Clug wrote: I believe ICCAN are moving to possibly replacing .local, .home, .lan, .corp, .mail, .localdomain, (and possibly others) with .internal ? I read the ICANN documents you referenced but did not see the proposal was to replace those domains? It is more off

dot internal and mDNS

2024-08-03 Thread George at Clug
I believe ICCAN are moving to possibly replacing .local, .home, .lan, .corp, .mail, .localdomain, (and possibly others) with .internal ? How could this affect mDNS and the use of .local? https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/proceeding/proposed-top-level-domain-string-for-private-use-24-01-20