Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-31 Thread DvB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'll have to find a package that has a new dependency vs what the old, > installed package has and try it... > > If 'upgrade' doesn't do this, you will end up with a non-working program. > Don't you agree ?? > As I said, if a currently installed package requires a

Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-31 Thread Paul Smith
%% [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> upgrade >> upgrade is used to install the newest versions of >> all packages currently installed on the system from >> the sources enumerated in /etc/apt/sources.list. >> Packages currently installed with new versions >> available are retrieved

Re: Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-31 Thread hallstevenson
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 08:30:22AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > DvB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > To be more explicit, "apt-get upgrade" will not, under > > > any circumstances, install new packages... > > > > 'apt-get upgrade' will install n

Re: Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-31 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 08:30:22AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > DvB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To be more explicit, "apt-get upgrade" will not, under > > any circumstances, install new packages... > > 'apt-get upgrade' will install new packages if they're required by > another package th

Re: Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-31 Thread hallstevenson
DvB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To be more explicit, "apt-get upgrade" will not, under > any circumstances, install new packages... 'apt-get upgrade' will install new packages if they're required by another package that you have installed (and is being 'upgraded'). This will happen if package

Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-31 Thread Erik Steffl
"Jeffrey W. Baker" wrote: ... > ALSA is another package that is screwed up in unstable but you can blame > ALSA developers for that, not Debian. also note that alsa itself is officially unstable, so it's expected to be broken from time to time (the alsa itself, not only debian alsa package). the

Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-30 Thread DvB
> > * Apt + dselect seem very powerful, efficient if you use them together > >correctly. From the mailing lists, though, "correctly" seems to be > >a matter of confusion (or perhaps just preference). RPMs don't cut > >it for bleeding edge multiple-dependency upgrades (as you all kno

Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-30 Thread Craig Dickson
Ross Burton wrote: > >Example: gnucash. > > That is the only example of a package which is not the latest release in > unstable I can think of. Personally I don't know why it is so delayed, > maybe the maintainer is on a break Honeymoon, we've been told. > As far as I recall, I've never be

Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-30 Thread Ross Burton
On Tue, 2001-10-30 at 18:50, Michael Kaminsky wrote: > I'm been using Mandrake for the past couple of years, and now I'm > considering switching to Debian; but, I have some concerns. I > consider myself a fairly experienced Linux user and use Linux for all > my computing needs (devel, digital came

Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-30 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 01:50:08PM -0500, Michael Kaminsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I'm been using Mandrake for the past couple of years, and now I'm > considering switching to Debian; but, I have some concerns. I > consider myself a fairly experienced Linux user and use Linux for all > my c

RE: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-30 Thread Timothy Webster
Debian has got a lot better, in the way it handles network configuration. Currently pretty much everything you need is in the /etc/network directory. Just add interfaces to the interfaces file. If you have any questions in particular I would be glad to help. -Tim. >* Mandrake has very decent s

Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-30 Thread nate
Michael Kaminsky said: > of Debian seems sorely lacking. Mandrake seems to put out RPMs > within 1-2 days of the upstream developers. There are still no > Debian packages for software I use regularly that's been out for > > 1 month (according to the debian web page package search form).

Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-30 Thread Craig Dickson
Michael Kaminsky wrote: > * One reason I moved to Mandrake from Redhat (from Slackware) is that >the packages are extremely up-to-date. Even the unstable version of >Debian seems sorely lacking. Mandrake seems to put out RPMs within >1-2 days of the upstream developers. There are s

Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-30 Thread Erik Steffl
Michael Kaminsky wrote: > > I'm been using Mandrake for the past couple of years, and now I'm > considering switching to Debian; but, I have some concerns. I > consider myself a fairly experienced Linux user and use Linux for all > my computing needs (devel, digital camera stuff, laptop stuff ,te

Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Michael Kaminsky wrote: > I'm been using Mandrake for the past couple of years, and now I'm > considering switching to Debian; but, I have some concerns. I > consider myself a fairly experienced Linux user and use Linux for all > my computing needs (devel, digital camera st

RE: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-30 Thread Kris Huber
version of apt that has this feature is *ironically* not in the stable distrubution, however! -Kris -Original Message- From: Michael Kaminsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:50 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: changing to Debian from Mandrake I'

Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-30 Thread Justin R. Miller
Thus spake Michael Kaminsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > * One reason I moved to Mandrake from Redhat (from Slackware) is that >the packages are extremely up-to-date. Even the unstable version of >Debian seems sorely lacking. Mandrake seems to put out RPMs within >1-2 days of the upstream

changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-30 Thread Michael Kaminsky
I'm been using Mandrake for the past couple of years, and now I'm considering switching to Debian; but, I have some concerns. I consider myself a fairly experienced Linux user and use Linux for all my computing needs (devel, digital camera stuff, laptop stuff ,text processing, networking, etc.).