Bus error trying to start Quanta

2007-08-01 Thread Rico Secada
Hi After my last upgrade of Debian, running testing, I get the error "Bus Error" when I try to start Quanta og KDevelop. I don't believe it's a hardware error. Any sugestions? Rico. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe&

Re: D-Bus error trying to run gaim AND how do i ensure better upgrades?

2006-11-18 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 10:22:59 -0800, tom arnall wrote: [...] > > > > On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 16:19:57 -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > > > i did an upgrade of my testing system recently and afterwards have > > > > > found a nubmer of problems on my system. the most recent is that i > > > > > can

Re: D-Bus error trying to run gaim AND how do i ensure better upgrades?

2006-11-18 Thread tom arnall
symbol: > > > > cairo_scaled_font_get_font_options > > > > > > > > i had some problems earlier with gaim and dealt with them by copying > > > > the config file from the root user to my user's directory, but the > > > > D-Bus error is

Re: D-Bus error trying to run gaim AND how do i ensure better upgrades?

2006-11-18 Thread Florian Kulzer
a bogus made-up machine UUID, which may cause > > >problems.gaim: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0:\ > > >undefined symbol: cairo_scaled_font_get_font_options > > > > > > i had some problems earlier with gaim and dealt with them by copying the > >

Re: D-Bus error trying to run gaim AND how do i ensure better upgrades?

2006-11-17 Thread tom arnall
undefined symbol: cairo_scaled_font_get_font_options > > > > i had some problems earlier with gaim and dealt with them by copying the > > config file from the root user to my user's directory, but the D-Bus > > error is new and started when i reinstalled gaim to dea

Re: D-Bus error trying to run gaim AND how do i ensure better upgrades?

2006-11-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
ith them by copying the > config file from the root user to my user's directory, but the D-Bus error is > new and started when i reinstalled gaim to deal with some other problems. > > What is the D-Bus error about? Maybe dbus is not running. What happens if you try /etc/in

D-Bus error trying to run gaim AND how do i ensure better upgrades?

2006-11-12 Thread tom arnall
ms.gaim: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0:\ undefined symbol: cairo_scaled_font_get_font_options i had some problems earlier with gaim and dealt with them by copying the config file from the root user to my user's directory, but the D-Bus error is new and started when i

Re: Bus error - help!

2006-03-24 Thread Kent West
run. Logging in console [ie. not running kde] as root and running these programs like: konsole & gives the following: attempt to access past end of device 03:05: rw=0, want=6854512, limit-4883728 [1]+ Bus error konsole What can I do? From googling it looks like the kde installa

Re: Bus error - help!

2006-03-24 Thread jb701
konsole and rosegarden won't run from the kde menu - I get an eggtimer but then they disappear. Inside kde I have tried to run them from xterm, and get a bus error. xterm works in kde, but konsole does not. - Joe On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:14:06 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Bus error - help!

2006-03-23 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
to connect to and won't run. konsole has to be run from a working X setup. Does konsole run from within KDE? what about other terminal emulators like xterm or aterm? > > gives the following: > attempt to access past end of device > 03:05: rw=0, want=6854512, limit-4883728 &

Bus error - help!

2006-03-23 Thread jb701
. Logging in console [ie. not running kde] as root and running these programs like: konsole & gives the following: attempt to access past end of device 03:05: rw=0, want=6854512, limit-4883728 [1]+ Bus error konsole What can I do? From googling it looks like the kde installation

Re: Mozilla Bus error sadness

2004-09-05 Thread Kevin Mark
al things, I loaded up mozilla just > fine. Ran like a top. Now, if I try to launch it, I get "Bus error". I removed it > and reinstalled with same results. I then installed the testing version and STILL > get the same results. > > I am DESPERATE! Help me, help me!

Re: Mozilla Bus error sadness

2004-09-05 Thread Kent West
get "Bus error". I removed it and reinstalled with same results. I then installed the testing version and STILL get the same results. I am DESPERATE! Help me, help me! (in fly talk). The system is an Intel P4 (2.4Ghz) Dell with 128MB RAM using I810 video driver and xfree 4.3 Everything else

Re: Mozilla Bus error sadness

2004-09-05 Thread MJ Inabnit
>MJ Inabnit wrote: >Greetings wonderful Debian users: > >I have a mostly testing install with a bit of unstable tossed in for >flavor--mozilla browser (1.7x). After the system updated several >things, I loaded up mozilla just fine. Ran like a top. Now, if I try >to launch i

Re: Mozilla Bus error sadness

2004-09-05 Thread Kent West
MJ Inabnit wrote: Greetings wonderful Debian users: I have a mostly testing install with a bit of unstable tossed in for flavor--mozilla browser (1.7x). After the system updated several things, I loaded up mozilla just fine. Ran like a top. Now, if I try to launch it, I get "Bus error

Mozilla Bus error sadness

2004-09-05 Thread MJ Inabnit
Greetings wonderful Debian users: I have a mostly testing install with a bit of unstable tossed in for flavor--mozilla browser (1.7x). After the system updated several things, I loaded up mozilla just fine. Ran like a top. Now, if I try to launch it, I get "Bus error". I remov

libfreetype bus error

2004-04-19 Thread Ari Steinberg
issing from the nonbroken ones was libXft. Then I realized I should give gdb a shot and sure enough the bus error appears to happen somewhere in FT_Stream_GetShort() from /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6. This all started happening after I installed kde (which wouldn't get past the personalizer wi

dpkg returns Bus Error

2004-04-19 Thread Ross Vandegrift
Hello everyone, I have a Debian machine that's mostly woody (just a few packages from testing like quagga and associated libs) but dpkg seems terminally broken. Running any dpkg command (except help) results in a Bus Error. I don't know of any odd occurances (disk/m

Re: dpkg Bus Error

2004-02-05 Thread Rob Weir
ran 'dpkg --remove pppoe pppconfig pppoeconf'. > > Now dpkg gives a "Bus Error" whenever it tries to do any actual > work (ie, 'dpkg --help' work fine). The machine has neither gdb nor > strace to debug this problem. That's odd. Does running "dselect u

dpkg Bus Error

2004-02-03 Thread Ross Vandegrift
machines. So I tried removing ppp like 'dpkg --remove ppp' and it complained about needed ppp for pppoe, pppconfig, ppoeconf. Since I don't use any of these I ran 'dpkg --remove pppoe pppconfig pppoeconf'. Now dpkg gives a "Bus Error" whenever it tri

ldconfig returns bus error

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Jungowski
I've been unable to install any software because running ldconfig returns "bus error". I've tried going back to 2.3.1 from testing but having the same problem here - never had any trouble before though. At first I thought this might be a hardware issue but it's definitely not si

problem solved (was: Re: fsck bus error: 'attempt to access beyond end of device' during boot)

2002-06-17 Thread Joost van Baal
Hi again, Short summary: using another disk instead of the Quantum Bigfoot 5.25 series 2.1 GB C/H/S: 4095/16/63 disk fixes the problem. The Bigfoot apparently was broken in some strange way. On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 05:28:25PM +0200, Joost van Baal wrote: > On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 03:04:56PM +020

Re: fsck bus error: 'attempt to access beyond end of device' during boot

2002-06-10 Thread Joost van Baal
mpt to access beyond end of device attempt to access beyond end of device attempt to access beyond end of device attempt to access beyond end of device attempt to access beyond end of device attempt to access beyond end of device attempt to access beyond end of devic

Re: fsck bus error: 'attempt to access beyond end of device' during boot

2002-06-10 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Sunday 09 June 2002 22:36, Joost van Baal wrote: > Hi, > > [Please Cc me on replies, I'm not subscribed.] > > The short summary: When booting, my box gives up, stating: > > NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0. > attempt to access beyond end of device > 03:02: rw=0, want=1023464393

Re: fsck bus error: 'attempt to access beyond end of device' during boot

2002-06-09 Thread Soul Computer
> dev 03:02 blocksize=1024 blocknr= > ... > /etc/init.d/rc.S: line 38: 10 segmentation >fault loadkeys ... > Activating Swap > Adding swap > checking root filesystem > attempt to access beyond end of device > 03:02: ... > dev 03:02: ... > ... > /etc/init.d/

fsck bus error: 'attempt to access beyond end of device' during boot

2002-06-09 Thread Joost van Baal
/etc/init.d/rc.S: line 38: 10 segmentation fault loadkeys ... Activating Swap Adding swap checking root filesystem attempt to access beyond end of device 03:02: ... dev 03:02: ... ... /etc/init.d/rc.S: line 145: 19 bus error fsck ${spinner} ... ... fsck failed Give root passwor

Re: netscape bus error

2002-04-22 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
recipients is issues with > > Netscape. Netscape (4.77-2) doesn't open at all and when netscape is > > entered > > into an xterm he receives only a line saying "Bus error". > > Anyone have any ideas, I haven't come across this before. He is one of

Re: netscape bus error

2002-04-21 Thread Tom Cook
etscape is entered > into an xterm he receives only a line saying "Bus error". > Anyone have any ideas, I haven't come across this before. He is one of our > early recipients and has just bought a new computer 1.4 ghz athlon 256 ddr > memory and has got debian unstable

Re: netscape bus error

2002-04-19 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Apr 18, 2002, dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 11:05:24PM +1000, John Habermann wrote: > | Hi > | > | Do support for a community group that recycles computers installs debian > and > | gives them to low income people. One of the recipients is issues with > | Net

Re: netscape bus error

2002-04-18 Thread dman
pe is entered Use something else. Netscape 4 is really old, and binary-only dists aren't the best either. | into an xterm he receives only a line saying "Bus error". | Anyone have any ideas, Netscape tried to access memory that doesn't exist, or is outside of its address sp

Re: netscape bus error

2002-04-18 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
n netscape > is entered into an xterm he receives only a line saying "Bus error". > Anyone have any ideas, I haven't come across this before. He is one of our > early recipients and has just bought a new computer with money he received > from an accident claim. It is a 1

netscape bus error

2002-04-18 Thread John Habermann
Hi Do some support for a community group that recycles computers, installs debian and then gives them to low income people. One of the recipients has issues with Netscape. Netscape (4.77-2) doesn't open at all and when netscape is entered into an xterm he receives only a line saying

netscape bus error

2002-04-18 Thread John Habermann
Hi Do support for a community group that recycles computers installs debian and gives them to low income people. One of the recipients is issues with Netscape. Netscape (4.77-2) doesn't open at all and when netscape is entered into an xterm he receives only a line saying "Bus erro

Re: Bus error on eth0, network card works, but lpr says device or resource busy.

2001-07-06 Thread Joost Kooij
re trying to load plip.o >Now what's weird, is the night before, I was on IRC, and I got a bus > error on eth0 but the network card works fine. That happened on redhat. Don't let them put that in their .sig! ;-) Cheers, Joost

Re: Bus error on eth0, network card works, but lpr says device or resource busy.

2001-07-05 Thread Wayne Topa
Subject: Bus error on eth0, network card works, but lpr says device or resource busy. Date: Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 03:47:31PM -0600 In reply to:Patrick Klee Quoting Patrick Klee([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi, > I am trying to install Debian Potato, on my PC. But, when I

Bus error on eth0, network card works, but lpr says device or resource busy.

2001-07-05 Thread Patrick Klee
Hi, I am trying to install Debian Potato, on my PC. But, when I enable plip (parallel port support), I get an error with lpr saying device or resource busy. Now what's weird, is the night before, I was on IRC, and I got a bus error on eth0 but the network card works fine. That happen

Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error)

2000-08-28 Thread Morten Liebach
On 26, aug, 2000 at 12:29:26 +0200, Carel Fellinger wrote: > Hai, > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 05:19:29PM -0300, Rogerio Brito wrote: > > On Aug 16 2000, André Dahlqvist wrote: > > > > quiet a lot of people who seam to like using Netscape to handle > > > their mail, and I think it's nice to give t

Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error)

2000-08-28 Thread Vitux
Carel Fellinger wrote: > > Hai, > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 05:19:29PM -0300, Rogerio Brito wrote: > > On Aug 16 2000, André Dahlqvist wrote: > > > > quiet a lot of people who seam to like using Netscape to handle > > > their mail, and I think it's nice to give those people that option. > ... >

Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error)

2000-08-27 Thread Carel Fellinger
Hai, On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 05:19:29PM -0300, Rogerio Brito wrote: > On Aug 16 2000, André Dahlqvist wrote: > > quiet a lot of people who seam to like using Netscape to handle > > their mail, and I think it's nice to give those people that option. ... > BTW, I also notice how much people u

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-26 Thread Cam Ellison
Steve Lamb wrote: > > > I have been specific. I have even given examples! PMMail and The Bat! > Screen shots alone for those two products speak volumes! > I don't know The Bat, but I use PMMail, and it's head and shoulders above anything else I have seen. I don think it asking too much f

Re: Netscape Bus Error

2000-08-25 Thread Manfred Sindhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi there > > Can someone explain me what a "Bus Error" is? > It sounds like a new invention by Micro$oft. > I had this error on a SuSE 6.4 Linux and got a fix fr

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-25 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 10:27:44PM -0400, Neil L. Roeth wrote: > My impression is that you think that to get mail from several sources > with fetchmail and have it put into separate folders requires that you > dump it into a single file and then filter using regular expressions > in procmail.

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-24 Thread Neil L. Roeth
On Aug 23, Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:53:43PM -0700, brian moore wrote: > > Huh? From a single source? > > Yes, a single source. Fetchmail. > > > Note that in my example (if you had bothered to read it), you would have > > seen that ~/.procmail

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-24 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 23, 2000, 12:30:25 PM, Matthew wrote: > This level of modularization offers far more power and flexibility, as it > becomes easier to implement new features and capabilities (as the amount of > code that has to be re-implemented from

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-24 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 23, 2000, 5:33:38 PM, John wrote: > *sigh* bosses, bosses, bosses. All other arguments in this thread > aside, this one is a bit weird. Does your boss realise that any > non-local mail you send via your work SMTP server will be hand

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-24 Thread John Pearson
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:39:01PM -0700, Seth Cohn wrote > On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, John Pearson wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 07:31:07AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote > > > Technically, yes. However, if your boss says that work email is not > > > to > > > touch outside SMTP servers as a matte

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-24 Thread brian moore
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:39:01PM -0700, Seth Cohn wrote: > On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, John Pearson wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 07:31:07AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote > > > Technically, yes. However, if your boss says that work email is not > > > to > > > touch outside SMTP servers as a matt

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-24 Thread Seth Cohn
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, John Pearson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 07:31:07AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote > > Technically, yes. However, if your boss says that work email is not to > > touch outside SMTP servers as a matter of policy how far do you think "Well, > > the SMTP server will route it c

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread John Pearson
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 07:31:07AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote > On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 09:27:40AM -0400, David Zoll wrote: [snip-o-rama] > > Which can then route the mail to the appropriate mail server. This is > > how SMTP was designed to work. > > Technically, yes. However, if your boss says

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread Matthew Sackman
> No, I mean exactly what an MUA says it is. Mutt is an MUA but, to me, it > is not a mail client. A mail client is able to transfer and manipulate the > required data without need of other programs. A constant example I give, > which is flawed as all are, is web browsing. A web browser is,

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 07:10:16AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Close, but not perfect. They insist on sending everything out a single > SMTP server. This requirement I really don't get: what practical difference does it make? -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpi

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 09:27:40AM -0400, David Zoll wrote: > there is a third choice (and I don't mean something that filters but > calls it something else), I'd love to hear about it. Simply stated, one program that has two instances in itself. Like an editor which can edit two buffers at t

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:00:54AM -0400, David Zoll wrote: > OK, I've gone and looked at the websites for those two products. I > can't really test either effectively in the real world since: > * both cost money I'm not willing to spend on this, and; The Bat! has a 30 day trial period, PMM

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 07:50:27AM -0400, Cory Snavely wrote: > If that's the case, how far is Netscape Communicator from doing what you > want (using IMAP)? Have as many IMAP accounts as you want (Netscape > doesn't seem to consider them folders), plus a folder structure for > each, distinct Inbox

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread David Zoll
Steve Lamb wrote: [snip] > I have been specific. I have even given examples! PMMail and The Bat! > Screen shots alone for those two products speak volumes! OK, I've gone and looked at the websites for those two products. I can't really test either effectively in the real world since: * both

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread David Zoll
Steve Lamb wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 06:33:48PM -0400, David Zoll wrote: [snip] > > 1) Fetchmail, which will grab the mail from separate accounts, and > > stuff it through... > > Requires filtering to separate out accounts which should be separate in > the first place. The way I see

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread Cory Snavely
Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 12:02:00PM -0500, Mark Schiltz wrote: > > > > After hashing through all your comments, I believe I know what you want. > > > > An email client that has a folder for [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > etc. (but dosn't call it a folder) with sub-

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 02:05:35AM -0700, brian moore wrote: > You're the one that keeps bringing up 'accounts'. I keep asking what the > concept of an 'account' has to do with mailboxes. Mail account. > Again, Steve, I have accounts on machines with no mailboxes. I have > mailboxes on mach

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread brian moore
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 01:04:31AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 12:34:17AM -0700, brian moore wrote: > > And I fail to see how a single fetchmail process reading from n servers, > > with m mailboxes on each, and delivering each remote mailbox to some > > number greater than m

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 09:21:58AM +0930, John Pearson wrote: > Well, that certainly indicates one reason why I'm having difficulty coming > to grips with your requirement; we have a problem over terminology. Actually, we don't. The problem is that people aren't willing to look past the termi

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 12:34:17AM -0700, brian moore wrote: > And I fail to see how a single fetchmail process reading from n servers, > with m mailboxes on each, and delivering each remote mailbox to some > number greater than m boxes on your machine is anything but what you > asked for. I f

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread John Pearson
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:36:14AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 07:21:38PM +0930, John Pearson wrote: > > .forward file allows you to filter your mail into any number of > > separate mailfolders at delivery time, based on a wide range of > > criteria including the contents of t

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:53:43PM -0700, brian moore wrote: > Huh? From a single source? Yes, a single source. Fetchmail. > Note that in my example (if you had bothered to read it), you would have > seen that ~/.procmailrc was irrelevant. Each pop3 mailbox had its own > (optional) procmai

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread brian moore
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 08:21:53PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 06:21:15PM -0700, brian moore wrote: > > Note that the "filtering" is done by fetchmail. If you don't want > > filters, then don't specify that portion of the command line. > > Which proves my point that you

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 06:21:15PM -0700, brian moore wrote: > Note that the "filtering" is done by fetchmail. If you don't want > filters, then don't specify that portion of the command line. Which proves my point that you need to filter from a single source. Completely stupid. > > > 3) P

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread brian moore
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 05:10:54PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 06:33:48PM -0400, David Zoll wrote: > > OK, you want mail from separate accounts to be collected into separate > > locations in one account, each with their own set of subfolders, and a > > mail client which can u

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 06:33:48PM -0400, David Zoll wrote: > OK, you want mail from separate accounts to be collected into separate > locations in one account, each with their own set of subfolders, and a > mail client which can understand this, and send outgoing mail > appropriately for the accou

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread David Zoll
Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 11:41:17AM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote: > > But you probably don't care about that. What I've learned from this > > long and silly thread is there are plenty of ways to receive mail from > > several accounts and keep them separated, but none that you

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 12:02:00PM -0500, Mark Schiltz wrote: > > An email client that has a folder for [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > etc. (but dosn't call it a folder) with sub-folders for inbox,outbox,etc. > > (its > > ok to call these folde

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 12:02:00PM -0500, Mark Schiltz wrote: > An email client that has a folder for [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED], > etc. (but dosn't call it a folder) with sub-folders for inbox,outbox,etc. (its > ok to call these folders) for each of the above non-folders. Does that abou

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Schiltz
Steve, After hashing through all your comments, I believe I know what you want. An email client that has a folder for [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. (but dosn't call it a folder) with sub-folders for inbox,outbox,etc. (its ok to call these folders) for each of the above non-folders.

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 07:21:38PM +0930, John Pearson wrote: > .forward file allows you to filter your mail into any number of > separate mailfolders at delivery time, based on a wide range of > criteria including the contents of the headers. Now take it a step further, what do you do on the

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 11:41:17AM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote: > But you probably don't care about that. What I've learned from this > long and silly thread is there are plenty of ways to receive mail from > several accounts and keep them separated, but none that you like. Too > bad. Great att

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread Brendan Cully
Of course you could also use fetchmail's "mda" option to make an account be delivered to an arbitrary file. But you probably don't care about that. What I've learned from this long and silly thread is there are plenty of ways to receive mail from several accounts and keep them separated, but none

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread markm
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 12:54:58AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 05:46:00PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > .fetchmailrc can have: > > [] > > user x is mark here > > [] > > user y is julie here > > Requires a local account for what really isn't a separate accou

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread John Pearson
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 12:54:58AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 05:46:00PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > .fetchmailrc can have: > > [] > > user x is mark here > > [] > > user y is julie here > > Requires a local account for what really isn't a separate accoun

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread Preben Randhol
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/08/2000 (09:58) : > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:52:08AM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote: > > I think it is you that has done something wrong in the setup. > > No, I refuse to accept a mediocre solution. Would you please explain how you would make the sof

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:52:08AM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote: > I think it is you that has done something wrong in the setup. No, I refuse to accept a mediocre solution. > I have setup fetchmail on a machine to fetch mail for both users of that > machine from the ISP. One of the users even

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 05:46:00PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > .fetchmailrc can have: > [] > user x is mark here > [] > user y is julie here Requires a local account for what really isn't a separate account on the local machine. This is a piss-poor hack. > Alternatively, if you

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread Preben Randhol
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/08/2000 (17:59) : > Hate to tell you but fetchmail is not more elegant. In fact, I find it > quite archaic. I don't know about you, but there is something about pulling 2 > accounts worth of mail, dumping them into a single local account and then hav

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-22 Thread markm
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 10:50:18AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Right, and have to stuff them into a single account to get at them with a > single client. That, to me, is inelegant. For good reasons I do /not/ mix my > personal and professional email. Using fetchmail in the prescribed manner

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, August 21, 2000, 12:44:11 PM, kmself wrote: >> If it did do it I'd love to see the actual mail reading removed from the >> editor. ^^

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, August 21, 2000, 2:14:00 PM, brian wrote: > Considering that mutt doesn't do SMTP with anything, Steve's demand > probably will never happen. > (Though there are certainly ways to do it, the SMTP configuration ain't > part of Mutt.) Right

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, August 21, 2000, 2:01:38 PM, Mike wrote: > Oh, you meant actually send it out through different servers? I thought you > were just meaning the message addressing - i.e. what From: line is used. > Seems I misunderstood exactly what you meant.

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-21 Thread brian moore
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 05:01:38PM -0400, Mike Werner wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Monday, August 21, 2000, 1:42:58 PM, Mike wrote: > > > Wrong. mutt can do that just fine. > > > > Don't even try to kid me on that aspect ok? The da

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-21 Thread Mike Werner
Steve Lamb wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Monday, August 21, 2000, 1:42:58 PM, Mike wrote: > > Wrong. mutt can do that just fine. > > Don't even try to kid me on that aspect ok? The day mutt can send mail > out my work SMTP from home (yes, that level of separat

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, August 21, 2000, 1:42:58 PM, Mike wrote: > Wrong. mutt can do that just fine. Don't even try to kid me on that aspect ok? The day mutt can send mail out my work SMTP from home (yes, that level of separation) is the day I'll concede. Rig

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-21 Thread Mike Werner
Steve Lamb wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Monday, August 21, 2000, 10:11:17 AM, Michael wrote: > > Also, you can grab pop mail from multiple servers if you're like the typical > > guy and have 5+ mail addresses. > > Right, and have to stuff them into a single acc

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-21 Thread kmself
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 11:35:29AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Monday, August 21, 2000, 11:11:42 AM, Mark wrote: > > I strongly suspect that Gnus can do what you want, but I've not actually > > tried. It certainly supports multiple servers and folders and can > > conditionally set headers based up

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, August 21, 2000, 11:11:42 AM, Mark wrote: > I strongly suspect that Gnus can do what you want, but I've not actually > tried. It certainly supports multiple servers and folders and can > conditionally set headers based upon various criteria.

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-21 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 10:50:18AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Right, and have to stuff them into a single account to get at them with a > single client. That, to me, is inelegant. For good reasons I do /not/ mix my > personal and professional email. Using fetchmail in the prescribed manner

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, August 21, 2000, 10:11:17 AM, Michael wrote: > Also, you can grab pop mail from multiple servers if you're like the typical > guy and have 5+ mail addresses. Right, and have to stuff them into a single account to get at them with a single

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-21 Thread Michael Smith
If you have dialup access with many users with different pop accounts (like my family once), you can grab everybody's mail as soon as anyone connects with ppp. That way, nobody has to dial in to check mail--it's already grabbed. Also, you can grab pop mail from multiple servers if you're like t

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 16, 2000, 6:30:22 PM, John wrote: > i do appreciate that the fetchmail approach is more elegant.. but it is more > daunting too. Hate to tell you but fetchmail is not more elegant. In fact, I find it quite archaic. I don't know

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 16, 2000, 6:19:39 PM, John wrote: > from the fetchmail man page: Too bad fetchmail isn't a client, huh? - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main conne

Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error)

2000-08-19 Thread Andr? Dahlqvist
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 07:17:59PM -0300, Rogerio Brito wrote: > In that case, they might just use an older version of Windows with > Internet Explorer and they are able to see the web more confortably > than using Linux and Netscape. If a user don't see any benefits from using Linux he obviously

Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error)

2000-08-19 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Aug 18 2000, John Leuner wrote: > But let's face it, a debug build of Moz is a dog. Do we really need > Athlons to surf the web? That was exactly my point. Most users (unfortunately, might I add) don't care for free software or for proprietary software. They care about t

Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error)

2000-08-19 Thread John Leuner
> > Ok. Let's wait a little bit more about it. And hope it gets > > smaller. :-) > > Mozilla 1.0 will bring peace to earth, I just know it:-) > -- But let's face it, a debug build of Moz is a dog. Do we really need Athlons to surf the web? ---

Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))

2000-08-16 Thread John Hasler
John Griffiths writes: > learning to use/master fetchmail is on my list of things to do... Install and run fetchmailconf. > (somewhere after getting a useable X in debian) Which fetchmailconf requires, unfortunately. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error)

2000-08-16 Thread John Hasler
André writes: > It [Gecko] is not a browser by itself, if that's what you though. I keep hoping for a plain, simple browser that just works. Oh, well. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

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