On Saturday 18 November 2006 02:11, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 15:50:33 -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > On Tuesday 14 November 2006 13:49, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 16:19:57 -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > > > i did an upgrade of my testing system recently and afterwards have > > > > found a nubmer of problems on my system. the most recent is that i > > > > can't run gaim properly. when i try to, the screen appears > > > > momentarily and then goes away, leaving the folowing error message in > > > > the console. > > > > > > > > > > > > D-Bus library appears to be incorrectly set up; failed to read > > > > machine uuid: Failed to open "/var/lib/dbus/machine-id": No such > > > > file or directory > > > > See the manual page for dbus-uuidgen to correct this issue. > > > > Continuing with a bogus made-up machine UUID, which may cause > > > > problems.gaim: symbol lookup error: > > > > /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0:\ undefined symbol: > > > > cairo_scaled_font_get_font_options > > > > > > > > i had some problems earlier with gaim and dealt with them by copying > > > > the config file from the root user to my user's directory, but the > > > > D-Bus error is new and started when i reinstalled gaim to deal with > > > > some other problems. > > > > > > > > What is the D-Bus error about? > > > > > > Maybe dbus is not running. What happens if you try > > > > > > /etc/init.d/dbus start > > > > > > or > > > > > > /etc/init.d/dbus restart > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > Also, how can i lessen my chances of breaking things when i upgrade. > > > > (i have both testing and stable addresses in my sources.list file) > > > > > > Install apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges or stay with stable. > > [...] > > > is there an easy way to go back to stable from testing? the stuff i've > > seen on google so far is not encouraging in this regard. > > Downgrading is "not supported". This means that you have to figure out > lots of things yourself which are normally taken care of by apt and the > careful considerations of the package maintainers. There is a simple > practical reason why downgrades are done so rarely: The people who know > Debian well enough to pull off a successful downgrade are also capable > of keeping a testing/unstable system up and running. If, on the other > hand, you have repeated problems with testing then it is almost certain > that you will run into serious trouble with the downgrade. Another point > is that reinstalling stable can normally be done faster than > downgrading even if you have a black belt in Debian-Fu. > > That being said, I would not go back to Sarge now. Etch is almost > release-ready anyway, so you just need to make sure that your > sources.list points to Etch explicitly (and not "testing") and you will > have a "stable" system with minimum hassle if you do another upgrade > when Etch is released in about a month (fingers crossed). > > For now, to fix the dbus issue, check for error messages when you > restart dbus and make sure that the /var/lib/dbus/machine-id file is > created. Post you findings here if you cannot make sense of them > yourself. > > --
i had the initial problem with the dbus restart until i did it as root and indeed this put an end to the dbus error when i start gaim. but i've still got the libpangocairo error and gaim disappears when i try to use it. but i installed 'kopete' and it works well. thanks for the info on Etch. this is light at the end of the tunnel. things are tolerable as long as there is hope. ;.) i'm just going to ignore the gaim problem and other mosquitos until after i've done the upgrade after the Etch release. tom arnall north spit, ca usa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]