Re: Best terminology to distiguish groups such as "debian-user" from webmail whatevers

2025-02-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 09:59:01AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group. > The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around > webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups. > I find t

Re: Best terminology to distiguish groups such as "debian-user" from webmail whatevers

2025-02-27 Thread John Hasler
yassine writes: > I always thought "mailing list" was exactly that, and cannot be > confused with anything else. It is also just a list of addresses to which stuff is to be mailed: announcements, advertising, etc. I think that to many people now that may be the only meaning of the phrase. To them

Re: Best terminology to distiguish groups such as "debian-user" from webmail whatevers

2025-02-27 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 2/26/25 à 16:59, Richard Owlett a écrit : How do I clearly ask the state rep if there is a traditional mailing list similar to debian-user. TIA I always thought "mailing list" was exactly that, and cannot be confused with anything else. Best, -- yassine -- sysadm http:

Re: Best terminology to distiguish groups such as "debian-user" from webmail whatevers

2025-02-26 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 09:59:01AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group. > The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around > webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups. > I find the we

Re: Best terminology to distiguish groups such as "debian-user" from webmail whatevers

2025-02-26 Thread Dan Purgert
On Feb 26, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 2/26/25 12:20 PM, Dan Purgert wrote: > > On Feb 26, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group. > > > The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around > > > webmail as a comple

Re: Best terminology to distiguish groups such as "debian-user" from webmail whatevers

2025-02-26 Thread Richard Owlett
On 2/26/25 12:20 PM, Dan Purgert wrote: On Feb 26, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group. The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups. I f

Re: Best terminology to distiguish groups such as "debian-user" from webmail whatevers

2025-02-26 Thread Richard Owlett
On 2/26/25 11:01 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2025 26 Feb 10:03 -0600, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 09:59:01AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group. The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built ar

Re: Best terminology to distiguish groups such as "debian-user" from webmail whatevers

2025-02-26 Thread Dan Purgert
On Feb 26, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group. > The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around > webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups. > I find the web based system unusable.

Re: Best terminology to distiguish groups such as "debian-user" from webmail whatevers

2025-02-26 Thread Mike Castle
Amusingly, "listserv" was the name of one of the original email implementations on IBM Mainframes on BITNET. Names were limited to eight characters, hence that particular abbreviation. (JUGGLE-L was one of my first subscriptions back then.) Many modern conversation systems use both email and web

Re: Best terminology to distiguish groups such as "debian-user" from webmail whatevers

2025-02-26 Thread Nate Bargmann
nology is 'email reflector'. I've not seen that term used for a mailing list by any other subset of Internet users. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Best terminology to distiguish groups such as "debian-user" from webmail whatevers

2025-02-26 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 09:59:01AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group. > The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around > webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups. > I find the we

Best terminology to distiguish groups such as "debian-user" from webmail whatevers

2025-02-26 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group. The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups. I find the web based system unusable. I'm so old I used an acoustic coupler when

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt

2025-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 2/17/25 9:58 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 09:40:31 -0600, David Wright wrote: I do that with lynx -localhost. One consequence is regular communications (sometimes by email!) from some banks etc, complaining that you don't open their emails. Some are so stupid as to offer

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt

2025-02-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 09:40:31 -0600, David Wright wrote: > I do that with lynx -localhost. One consequence is regular > communications (sometimes by email!) from some banks etc, > complaining that you don't open their emails. Some are so > stupid as to offer no way of denying that fact electro

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt

2025-02-17 Thread David Wright
On Mon 17 Feb 2025 at 09:02:11 (+), Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sat Dec 28, 2024 at 4:41 AM GMT, hobie of RMN wrote: > > What's the best way to handle this? Switch to Thunderbird or > > claws-mail? > > I switched away from (neo)mutt as my primary mailer a little

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2025-02-17 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-17, wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 01:07:47PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [...] > >> But this is really all just noise. Use whatever MUA you like. > > That's my take, too. My take is this is a recurrent question concerning Mutt.

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2025-02-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat Dec 28, 2024 at 4:41 AM GMT, hobie of RMN wrote: What's the best way to handle this? Switch to Thunderbird or claws-mail? I switched away from (neo)mutt as my primary mailer a little while ago, but before I did, I was using netsurf-gtk as a viewer for HTML mails in mutt. It wa

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2025-02-16 Thread tomas
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 01:07:47PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > But this is really all just noise. Use whatever MUA you like. That's my take, too. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2025-02-16 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-16, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 17:46:18 -, Greg wrote: >> On 2025-02-16, wrote: >> > >> > I don't quite know what you mean by "modern". >> >> Mutt was written in 1995. Alpine was publicly released twenty years later, in >> 2007. That should have been more lik

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2025-02-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 17:46:18 -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-02-16, wrote: > > > > I don't quite know what you mean by "modern". > > Mutt was written in 1995. Alpine was publicly released twenty years later, in > 2007. Mutt is the successor to elm. Alpine is the Free version of pine. If anyt

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2025-02-16 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-16, wrote: > > I don't quite know what you mean by "modern". Mutt was written in 1995. Alpine was publicly released twenty years later, in 2007.

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2025-02-16 Thread tomas
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 04:40:18PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2024-12-28, Olafur Jens Sigurdsson wrote: > >> > > >> > What's the best way to handle this? Switch to Thunderbird or claws-mail? > >> > > >> I simply use lynx to view 99% of HTML

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2025-02-16 Thread Greg
On 2024-12-28, Olafur Jens Sigurdsson wrote: >> > >> > What's the best way to handle this? Switch to Thunderbird or claws-mail? >> > >> I simply use lynx to view 99% of HTML E-Mail and the odd one that >> doesn't view well by that means I feed

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
n > won't allow me to do that; it rejects my bounced emails because "From:" > and "(envelope-from)" are not the same. > > What's the best way to handle this? It depends on what you want to do. For me, there are two different modes of dealing with HTML

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-28 Thread Henning Follmann
ail > > program on a different server. But now the jellyfish anti-spam daemon > > won't allow me to do that; it rejects my bounced emails because "From:" > > and "(envelope-from)" are not the same. > > > > What's the best way to handle this?

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-28 Thread Olafur Jens Sigurdsson
er. But now the jellyfish anti-spam daemon > > won't allow me to do that; it rejects my bounced emails because "From:" > > and "(envelope-from)" are not the same. > > > > What's the best way to handle this? Switch to Thunderbird or claws-mai

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-28 Thread Chris Green
at; it rejects my bounced emails because "From:" > and "(envelope-from)" are not the same. > > What's the best way to handle this? Switch to Thunderbird or claws-mail? > I simply use lynx to view 99% of HTML E-Mail and the odd one that doesn't view we

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 11:41:39PM -0500, hobie of RMN wrote: > For 20 years I've enjoyed Mutt as my primary mail reader. I used its > 'bounce' feature to deal with HTML mails, sending them to a webmail > program on a different server. I also use Mutt. I have Mutt's mailcap set to view the t

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-28 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
emon > won't allow me to do that; it rejects my bounced emails because "From:" > and "(envelope-from)" are not the same. > > What's the best way to handle this? Switch to Thunderbird or claws-mail? > May be you can use the send-hook for that purpose.

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-27 Thread tomas
mail reader. I used its > > 'bounce' feature to deal with HTML mails, sending them to a webmail > > program on a different server. But now the jellyfish anti-spam daemon > > won't allow me to do that; it rejects my bounced emails because "From:" > >

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-27 Thread ghe2001
a different server. But now the jellyfish anti-spam daemon > won't allow me to do that; it rejects my bounced emails because "From:" > and "(envelope-from)" are not the same. > > What's the best way to handle this? Switch to Thunderbird or claws-mail? Loo

What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-27 Thread hobie of RMN
uot;From:" and "(envelope-from)" are not the same. What's the best way to handle this? Switch to Thunderbird or claws-mail? --hobie

W: best practice to handle special characters in cifs

2024-12-05 Thread tuxoholic
Hi list, Some of the special characters like  :?!| need character mapping in the cifs filesharing protocol in order to work well with different software plattforms (Windows mostly). The only exception to character mapping were the so called "unix extensions", which allowed a unix system to sh

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-10-31 Thread Boyan Penkov
Hello folks, Just to follow up on this thread, here's how it played out: -- I gave up on EFI, and use just BIOS boot -- each drive has three partitions: a space for grub-install, am mdadm md0 /boot and a btrfs raid1c3 root partition -- grub-install on each dev manually, and I probably need an apt

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-30 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Le 30/09/2024, Boyan Penkov a écrit: > -- If I have multiple drives, do I modify the script to have multiple > efi2, efi3, ..., efiX ? I think yes. > -- it seems that the script above privileges /boot/efi over /boot/efi2 > -- in this case, if /boot/efi becomes corrupted, won't this just co

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-30 Thread Boyan Penkov
Hello folks, Thanks kindly -- and my apologies for picking this up after a while; fell sick here... A few questions: -- If I have multiple drives, do I modify the script to have multiple efi2, efi3, ..., efiX ? -- it seems that the script above privileges /boot/efi over /boot/efi2 -- in this ca

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-20 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 20 Sep 2024, Florent Rougon wrote: Le 20/09/2024, Tim Woodall a écrit: Because the script will abort after the mount fails. root@dirac:~# cat test.sh #!/bin/bash set -e mount /boot/efi2 echo "do important stuff" root@dirac:~# ./test.sh mount: /boot/efi2: /dev/sda2 already mounted

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-20 Thread Florent Rougon
Le 20/09/2024, Tim Woodall a écrit: > Because the script will abort after the mount fails. > > root@dirac:~# cat test.sh > #!/bin/bash > > set -e > > mount /boot/efi2 > > echo "do important stuff" > > root@dirac:~# ./test.sh > mount: /boot/efi2: /dev/sda2 already mounted on /boot/efi2. >d

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-20 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 20 Sep 2024, Florent Rougon wrote: Le 20/09/2024, Tim Woodall a ?crit: Haven't looked at the script but assuming it's run set -e, then your suggestion will fail if it's already mounted. Why? Because the script will abort after the mount fails. root@dirac:~# cat test.sh #!/bin/ba

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-20 Thread Florent Rougon
Le 20/09/2024, Tim Woodall a écrit: > Haven't looked at the script but assuming it's run set -e, then your > suggestion will fail if it's already mounted. Why? -- Florent

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-19 Thread Tim Woodall
/efi2 can't be mounted, however in this case I certainly don't want the rsync command to be run. Haven't looked at the script but assuming it's run set -e, then your suggestion will fail if it's already mounted. Best would be to check that, and unmount again only if the script mounted. Tim.

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-19 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Le 19/09/2024, Andy Smith a écrit: > I don't think the answer, on Debian, has changed since I asked the > same question in 2020: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/11/msg00455.html There is a script at [1] to install as, e.g., /etc/grub.d/90_copy_to_boot_efi2, so that it is a

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 08:21:10PM -0400, Boyan Penkov wrote: > So, what are folks doing these days to mirror /efi and /boot? [ TL;DR: You already found it - have two separate EFI System Partitions, sync one to the other manually using e.g. rsync whenever one changes, add path

Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-18 Thread Boyan Penkov
Hello folks, New machine, new opportunity to get up to speed with the contemporary best practices for multiple disks on UEFI. The behavior I'd like -- and, I suspect, the behavior we'd all like -- is the machine stays bootable and data is preserved if any disk fails. Specifically, wha

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-06-22 Thread David Christensen
installation. Would be grateful for some advice! I think the "best" answer depends upon the scale of your installation. I have a SOHO network with a dozen or so Debian, Windows, macOS, and iOS clients, a FreeBSD/ZFS CVS, SSH, and Samba server, and a FreeBSD/ZFS backup server.

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-06-22 Thread Dmitrii Odintcov
Hi all, Sorry to resurrect an old-ish thread, but I am facing the exact same task, minus the know-how. Basically I am looking to pre-configure a number of Debian setups - let's say, "server", "laptop" and "PC" - that would contain sets of packages to install (or uninstall), configuration files (

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-05-27 Thread Mike Castle
On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 4:40 PM Mike Castle wrote: > Thanks for all of the commentary so far. > > Once I get something working, I will *try* to remember to follow up > here with what I've managed to cobble together. I have done quite a bit of research and experimentation and finally settled on a

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-04-24 Thread Linux-Fan
Mike Castle writes: Hah! https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/08/msg00042.html Yes, that was me > 10a ago. Transitioning from these scripts to ant allowed came with a few improvements: * I switched all package building to `debuild` in favor of using more low-level tools for `raw` p

Mesh VPN on Debian (Was Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?)

2024-04-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 04:40:24PM -0700, Mike Castle wrote: > Like Alex, one of my physical machines is a laptop that is not always > on the home network. Though I'm usually connected to *something*. > I'm still debating whether to bother with a VPN or trying something > like a tailnet. For

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-04-21 Thread Tim Woodall
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024, Mike Castle wrote: Now, I would like to expand that into also setting up various config files that I currently do manually, for example, the `/etc/apt/*` configs I need to make the above work. For a single set of files, manual isn't bad, but as I want to get into setting up

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-04-20 Thread Mike Castle
Hah! https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/08/msg00042.html

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-04-20 Thread John Crawley
On 21/04/2024 08:40, Mike Castle wrote: One thing Linux-Fan mentioned was `config-package-dev`. In my OP, I commented about ``slightly old to really old tools'', and that was one I was thinking of. It looks like it hasn't been touched in seven years, and I wasn't sure if it still worked. But t

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-04-20 Thread Mike Castle
Debian and ran my own Linux-from-Scratch-started-before-LFS-or-Debian-existed "distribution", I used to run $HOME over NFS over WiFi. Sharing configs that way would be acceptable for me. I also used to keep my configs in CVS and pushed them using rsync-over-ssh-as-root, hence &qu

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-04-19 Thread Andy Smith
f Python apps. Probably best to do it in a Python virtualenv rather than try to use OS packages as it does still change quite often, but I've found backwards compatibility to be decent. I used Puppet for quite a few years. It was a nicer, more expressive and powerful language. It's also

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-04-19 Thread Linux-Fan
Mike Castle writes: For a while now, I've been using `equivs-build` for maintaining a hierarchy of metapackages to control what is installed on my various machines. Generally, I can do `apt install mrc-$(hostname -s)` and I'm golden. Now, I would like to expand that into also setting up variou

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-04-18 Thread Alexandre Rossi
Hi, > > and so on, it is time to explore solutions. I only have four systems > > at the moment (two physical and two virtual), so I don't think I need > > something too fancy. I am in the same situation with an extra constraint: some are laptops and not always connected. > > My first thought wa

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-04-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Mike Castle wrote: > and so on, it is time to explore solutions. I only have four systems > at the moment (two physical and two virtual), so I don't think I need > something too fancy. > > My first thought was to simply add a `Files:` section to *.control > files I use for my metapackages. Afte

Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-04-18 Thread Mike Castle
For a while now, I've been using `equivs-build` for maintaining a hierarchy of metapackages to control what is installed on my various machines. Generally, I can do `apt install mrc-$(hostname -s)` and I'm golden. Now, I would like to expand that into also setting up various config files that I c

Re: Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

2023-04-25 Thread DdB
Am 25.04.2023 um 15:43 schrieb David Wright: > On Tue 25 Apr 2023 at 09:11:23 (+0200), DdB wrote: (...) > > The problem lies with the user accounts 101–999 (and releated groups), > which are system accounts created in a somewhat random manner as > packages are installed on each system. Those ≤100

Re: Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

2023-04-25 Thread David Wright
On Tue 25 Apr 2023 at 09:11:23 (+0200), DdB wrote: > Am 25.04.2023 um 02:18 schrieb David Christensen: > > I have a SOHO network with FreeBSD servers and Debian, Windows, macOS, > > and iOS clients.  The hardware is anywhere from new to 16 years old. > > Where possible, I install a 2.5" SATA 6 Gbps

Re: Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

2023-04-25 Thread DdB
Am 25.04.2023 um 02:18 schrieb David Christensen: > I have a SOHO network with FreeBSD servers and Debian, Windows, macOS, > and iOS clients.  The hardware is anywhere from new to 16 years old. > Where possible, I install a 2.5" SATA 6 Gbps trayless mobile racks in > the computers and use 2.5" SATA

Re: Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

2023-04-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 12:16:54AM +0200, DdB wrote: > Thank you for providing your take on this. > > Am 24.04.2023 um 19:46 schrieb Dan Ritter: > > Upgrade buster to bullseye, reboot, upgrade to bookworm. > > Read the release notes for bullseye. Change /etc/apt/sources.list to suit. Upgrade b

Re: Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

2023-04-24 Thread David Christensen
On 4/24/23 08:53, DdB wrote: Hi list, while still on debian buster (old-old-stable soon), i am approaching the point, where i will be ready to upgrade. I do have backup(s) from different points in time, and can carry out restore to a VM, that is almost identical to my main system, that i can use

Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

2023-04-24 Thread DdB
Am 24.04.2023 um 23:04 schrieb Timothy M Butterworth: > https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/update-upgrade-debian-10-to-debian-11-bullseye/  > > Usually this is the safest way. But why don't you upgrade sooner to > bullseye ? Do you have some problematic packages ? thank you for the link sugges

Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

2023-04-24 Thread DdB
Thank you for providing your take on this. Am 24.04.2023 um 19:46 schrieb Dan Ritter: > Upgrade buster to bullseye, reboot, upgrade to bookworm. > > Solve the final set of problems, not all the intermediates which > may have been fixed. interesting consideration there. :-) > (...) If you have own

Re: Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

2023-04-24 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:06 PM Michel Verdier wrote: > Le 24 avril 2023 DdB a écrit : > > > 1. Upgrade from current configuration using upgrade path tools (apt) and > > plan only one step (going to bullseye) at a time, eventually having to > > upgrade a second time later. > https://www.cybercit

Re: Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

2023-04-24 Thread Dan Ritter
DdB wrote: > while still on debian buster (old-old-stable soon), i am approaching the > point, where i will be ready to upgrade. I do have backup(s) from > different points in time, and can carry out restore to a VM, that is > almost identical to my main system, that i can use as a playground for

Re: Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

2023-04-24 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 24 avril 2023 DdB a écrit : > 1. Upgrade from current configuration using upgrade path tools (apt) and > plan only one step (going to bullseye) at a time, eventually having to > upgrade a second time later. Usually this is the safest way. But why don't you upgrade sooner to bullseye ? Do you h

Looking for inspiration/advice/best practices on system upgrade

2023-04-24 Thread DdB
Hi list, while still on debian buster (old-old-stable soon), i am approaching the point, where i will be ready to upgrade. I do have backup(s) from different points in time, and can carry out restore to a VM, that is almost identical to my main system, that i can use as a playground for playing th

Re: How to configure (aka deal with) /tmp in the best way?

2022-10-07 Thread Michael Biebl
while the OP had an entry for /tmp in teir /etc/fstab. Wow! AFAICT, i did not create any systemd files nor ran a generator or such. Apart from listing units, i did not interfere ... wait ... i recall using the systemctl edit command once So, what likely happened is: - You had an fstab entry

Re: How to configure (aka deal with) /tmp in the best way?

2022-10-05 Thread DdB
Am 05.10.2022 um 21:03 schrieb Andy Smith: > Well it says it was generated by systemd-fstab-generator, but that > would usually put its generated units in /run/systemd/generator, not > /etc/systemd/system/, so it seems at some point something/someone ran: > > # systemd-fstab-generator /etc/sys

Re: How to configure (aka deal with) /tmp in the best way?

2022-10-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 02:31:01PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 06:23:39PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > I haven't yet felt the need to adjust sizing or permissions on /tmp > > but if I did I'd just put an entry for it in /etc/fstab. > > Me too, but I'm still curiou

Re: How to configure (aka deal with) /tmp in the best way?

2022-10-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 06:23:39PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > I haven't yet felt the need to adjust sizing or permissions on /tmp > but if I did I'd just put an entry for it in /etc/fstab. Me too, but I'm still curious where the OP's /etc/systemd/system/* file came from. If the OP didn't write it

Re: How to configure (aka deal with) /tmp in the best way?

2022-10-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 12:04:31PM +0200, DdB wrote: > How are the more experienced people among you handle /tmp ? > Could i just benefit from your experience? I don't tend to mess with the Debian default for /tmp, which is to not to have it be a mount point at all, so it is on the root fi

Re: How to configure (aka deal with) /tmp in the best way?

2022-10-05 Thread DdB
Am 05.10.2022 um 19:07 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > And you have NO memory of creating this file? Did someone else maybe > set this system up for you, who might have done this? That is certain: I did NOT create this file, my understanding of systemd is way too basic. (It did not even cross my mind to

Re: How to configure (aka deal with) /tmp in the best way?

2022-10-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 05:45:41PM +0200, DdB wrote: > > datakanja@NewSimul:/etc$ cat systemd/system/tmp.mount > > # Automatically generated by systemd-fstab-generator > > > > [Unit] > > SourcePath=/etc/fstab > > Documentation=man:fstab(5) man:systemd-fstab-generator(8) > > Before=local-fs.target

Re: How to configure (aka deal with) /tmp in the best way?

2022-10-05 Thread DdB
Am 05.10.2022 um 13:24 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > You're going to have to figure out what's mounting your /tmp file system > in the first place. If it's not /etc/fstab then it could be a dedicated > systemd unit, or a command in /etc/rc.local, or a crontab @reboot entry, > or an /etc/init.d/ script,

Re: How to configure (aka deal with) /tmp in the best way?

2022-10-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 02:07:17PM +0100, Tixy wrote: I seem to remember many releases ago playing with this, and there was a config file to set /tmp to tmpfs. A quick google leads me to to look at 'man tmpfs' which says: /tmp Previously configured using RAMTMP in /etc/default/rcS. Note that th

Re: How to configure (aka deal with) /tmp in the best way?

2022-10-05 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2022-10-05 at 15:52 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: > DdB writes: > > > How are the more experienced people among you handle /tmp ? > > Could i just benefit from your experience? > > I leave /tmp as is or if I see a benefit for the system, then I put > something like this in /etc/fstab: > > n

Re: How to configure (aka deal with) /tmp in the best way?

2022-10-05 Thread Anssi Saari
DdB writes: > How are the more experienced people among you handle /tmp ? > Could i just benefit from your experience? I leave /tmp as is or if I see a benefit for the system, then I put something like this in /etc/fstab: none /tmp tmpfs defaults,size=55% 0 0 The 55% is ju

Re: How to configure (aka deal with) /tmp in the best way?

2022-10-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 12:04:31PM +0200, DdB wrote: > fstab has no entry concerning /tmp. > After booting, mount gives this: > > >> tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,relatime,size=51200k) Huh. Weird. > Additional information: > while i am still using oldstable (buster), You're going to have

How to configure (aka deal with) /tmp in the best way?

2022-10-05 Thread DdB
Hello, i may be misunderstanding something, but to me, it looks like manually increasing the size of /tmp is a working workaround for several problems i am running into. By now, there are some things, i will not even initiate before issuing: >> sudo mount -o remount,size=50G /tmp After this (te

Re: Best way to use noise-canceling

2022-09-10 Thread mick.crane
On 2022-09-09 19:29, john doe wrote: Debians, I can see online that noise-canceling can be enabled in pulse audio, pipewire. Is there a recommended way in Debian to do so? Maybe PulseEffects ? mick

Best way to use noise-canceling

2022-09-09 Thread john doe
Debians, I can see online that noise-canceling can be enabled in pulse audio, pipewire. Is there a recommended way in Debian to do so? -- John Doe

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-17 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2022-02-17 at 10:02 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 11:28:18AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote: > > I wonder who embed Thai fonts and code in the first place.. > > อย่าเหยียดเชื้อชาติ +1 -- Tixy

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 11:28:18AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote: I wonder who embed Thai fonts and code in the first place.. อย่าเหยียดเชื้อชาติ -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-17 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 09:41:30AM -, Curt wrote: > On 2022-02-17, wrote: [...] > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 02:37:02PM -0600, David Wright wrote: [...] > >> Tomas's question seems to me more rhetorical than a scientific inquiry. > > > > In a way, y

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-17 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 09:40:40AM -, Curt wrote: > On 2022-02-16, David Wright wrote: [...] > > Tomas's question seems to me more rhetorical than a scientific inquiry. > > Great video, though. Thanks. > > Actually, I wanted to allude to Stella but should've obviously just > responded to on

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-17 Thread Curt
chard-feynman-on-why-questions/ >>=20 >> Tomas's question seems to me more rhetorical than a scientific inquiry. > > In a way, yes. I was trying my best to animate people to look into stuff. > The answer is, nevertheless, a good read. Yeah, I really meant to refer to Stel

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-17 Thread Curt
On 2022-02-16, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 16 Feb 2022 at 15:38:22 (-), Curt wrote: >> On 2022-02-16, wrote: >> > >> >> So why not create libraries for Burmese, Laotian and Cambodian (Khmer) la= >> > nguages? Why don't we have libburmese, liblaotian and libkhmer and make >> > the= >> > m e

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-17 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 07:05:33AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Dearie > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:05 PM > > From: to...@tuxteam.de > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: W

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-16 Thread Stella Ashburne
Dearie > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 9:45 PM > From: "The Wanderer" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is > the best course of action? > > > There are a few possible answers.

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-16 Thread Stella Ashburne
Dearie > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:05 PM > From: to...@tuxteam.de > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is > the best course of action? > > > So why not do your research yourself?

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-16 Thread tomas
lent question [...] > > https://fs.blog/richard-feynman-on-why-questions/ > > Tomas's question seems to me more rhetorical than a scientific inquiry. In a way, yes. I was trying my best to animate people to look into stuff. The answer is, nevertheless, a good read. > Gre

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-16 Thread David Wright
On Wed 16 Feb 2022 at 15:38:22 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2022-02-16, wrote: > > > >> So why not create libraries for Burmese, Laotian and Cambodian (Khmer) la= > > nguages? Why don't we have libburmese, liblaotian and libkhmer and make the= > > m essential dependencies for libpango? > > > > So wh

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-16 Thread Curt
On 2022-02-16, wrote: > >> So why not create libraries for Burmese, Laotian and Cambodian (Khmer) la= > nguages? Why don't we have libburmese, liblaotian and libkhmer and make the= > m essential dependencies for libpango? > > So why not do your research yourself? > > ;-) > Of course, it’s an

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-16 Thread tomas
On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 02:31:21PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Hello [...] > So why not create libraries for Burmese, Laotian and Cambodian (Khmer) > languages? Why don't we have libburmese, liblaotian and libkhmer and make > them essential dependencies for libpango? So why not do your res

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-16 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-02-16 at 08:31, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Hello >> What if someone sends you a document that has one or more words >> written in Thai? In order to be able to display that document >> correctly, the computer will need code that knows how to handle the >> Thai language. Whether that code is

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-16 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hello > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:04 AM > From: "The Wanderer" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is > the best course of action? > > What if someone sends you a docu

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-02-15 at 12:56, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Hello The Wanderer >> Do you have any reason to believe that it might? As compared to any >> other random library that Debian provides. > > No, I don't have the technical knowledge to audit libthai. My point > is that why pull in non-English depe

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