Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2013-11-01 19:39 +0100, Tom H wrote: > >> So the "bad" variables are still documented in the aptitude docs and >> the "good" variables are undocumented except in the changelog. :( > > There seems to be a misunderstanding, the aptitude docume

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-11-01 Thread berenger . morel
Le 31.10.2013 17:38, Sven Joachim a écrit : On 2013-10-31 13:42 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 31.10.2013 13:12, Tom H a écrit : Set 'Aptitude::Keep-Suggests "false";' in "/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/" and check whether the behavior changes. Just did the change: I added a file na

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-11-01 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-11-01 19:39 +0100, Tom H wrote: > So the "bad" variables are still documented in the aptitude docs and > the "good" variables are undocumented except in the changelog. :( There seems to be a misunderstanding, the aptitude documentation clearly states that Apt::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportan

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-11-01 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2013-10-31 13:42 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > >> Le 31.10.2013 13:12, Tom H a écrit : >> >>> Set 'Aptitude::Keep-Suggests "false";' in "/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/" and >>> check whether the behavior changes. >> >> Just did the ch

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-11-01 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:42 PM, wrote: > Le 31.10.2013 13:12, Tom H a écrit : >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:16 AM, wrote: >>> Le 31.10.2013 12:12, Tom H a écrit : On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:44 AM, wrote: > > It seems that even suggested packages are not automatically remov

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-31 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-10-31 13:42 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 31.10.2013 13:12, Tom H a écrit : > >> Set 'Aptitude::Keep-Suggests "false";' in "/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/" and >> check whether the behavior changes. > > Just did the change: > I added a file name "/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/keep_suggests"

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-31 Thread berenger . morel
Le 31.10.2013 13:12, Tom H a écrit : On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:16 AM, wrote: Le 31.10.2013 12:12, Tom H a écrit : On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:44 AM, wrote: It seems that even suggested packages are not automatically removed (at least with aptitude), which I think was not the same as wh

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-31 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:16 AM, wrote: > Le 31.10.2013 12:12, Tom H a écrit : >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:44 AM, wrote: >>> >>> It seems that even suggested packages are not automatically removed (at >>> least with aptitude), which I think was not the same as when I started >>> using Debian

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-31 Thread berenger . morel
Le 31.10.2013 12:12, Tom H a écrit : On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:44 AM, wrote: It seems that even suggested packages are not automatically removed (at least with aptitude), which I think was not the same as when I started using Debian. I just discovered this because I marked mpd as autom

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-31 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:44 AM, wrote: > > It seems that even suggested packages are not automatically removed (at > least with aptitude), which I think was not the same as when I started using > Debian. > > I just discovered this because I marked mpd as automatically installed, and > it was ke

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-31 Thread berenger . morel
First, sorry for breaking the thread, I have removed the mails from my mailing box, so I can not use the "reply to" longer. So, about the subject, what I said was not complete: It seems that even suggested packages are not automatically removed (at least with aptitude), which I think was not t

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-30 Thread berenger . morel
Le 29.10.2013 03:51, ruckus rogue a écrit : On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:21 PM, wrote: They have been installed because zonecheck probably needs them ( required ) but if they are recommended by other packages then they will not be removed. I do not think there is any solution to fix that. If t

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-28 Thread ruckus rogue
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:21 PM, wrote: > They have been installed because zonecheck probably needs them ( required ) > but if they are recommended by other packages then they will not be removed. > I do not think there is any solution to fix that. If there is one, I would > be happy to learn it.

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-28 Thread berenger . morel
Le 28.10.2013 01:38, ruckus rogue a écrit : On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Slavko wrote: I am sorry, perhaps i forgot to mention, that this is my setting. Or, to be more precise, i have shortcut to run "aptitude -R". Thanks all for the replies so far, but still a bit confused. I've alway

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-27 Thread ruckus rogue
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Slavko wrote: > I am sorry, perhaps i forgot to mention, that this is my setting. Or, > to be more precise, i have shortcut to run "aptitude -R". Thanks all for the replies so far, but still a bit confused. I've always had a 06norecommends in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-27 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Sun, 27 Oct 2013 22:47:00 +1300 Chris Bannister napísal: > > There are three types of dependencies: > > > > + depended = required > > + recommended = optional > > Unless you explicitly set recommended to optional, then they are > automatically installed. I am sorry, perhaps i forgot t

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-27 Thread Kailash
On Sunday 27 October 2013 03:17 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 08:42:18AM +0100, Slavko wrote: >> Ahoj, >> >> Dňa Sat, 26 Oct 2013 20:55:57 -0600 ruckusrogue >> napísal: >> >>> Anyone know the proper tool (shell) to best remove (purge) packages >>> and their dependencies afte

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 08:42:18AM +0100, Slavko wrote: > Ahoj, > > Dňa Sat, 26 Oct 2013 20:55:57 -0600 ruckusrogue > napísal: > > > Anyone know the proper tool (shell) to best remove (purge) packages > > and their dependencies after installing? > > There are three types of dependencies: > > +

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-27 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 26 Oct 2013 20:55:57 -0600 ruckusrogue napísal: > Anyone know the proper tool (shell) to best remove (purge) packages > and their dependencies after installing? There are three types of dependencies: + depended = required + recommended = optional + suggested = optional While th

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-26 Thread Bob Proulx
ruckusrogue wrote: > Anyone know the proper tool (shell) to best remove (purge) packages > and their dependencies after installing? Yes. Autoremove. > For instance on a wheezy install when I added 'eog' (eye of > gnome) it added 15 other dependency packages. Then removing ego only > removed eog,

apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-26 Thread ruckusrogue
Anyone know the proper tool (shell) to best remove (purge) packages and their dependencies after installing? For instance on a wheezy install when I added 'eog' (eye of gnome) it added 15 other dependency packages. Then removing ego only removed eog, literally. The dependencies remained. Is that