Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

On Sun, Nov 3, 2024 at 4:04 PM Christian wrote: > [...] > Well yes, and it's pretty confusing because I disabled secure boot, and > the problems remained. Which makes me really clueless, because there is > not much information left on the dmesg. Maybe its something with BIOS or > ACPI? By adding l

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

So far I couldn't see anything in my cmdline which is kernel_lockdown related. If this means that you already looked into /proc/cmdline then i am out of ideas why the kernel log reported [   47.042454] Lockdown: Xorg: raw io port access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7 Turns out,

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

Hi, Christian wrote: > So far I couldn't see anything in my > cmdline which is kernel_lockdown related. If this means that you already looked into /proc/cmdline then i am out of ideas why the kernel log reported > > [   47.042454] Lockdown: Xorg: raw io port access is restricted; see man > >

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 12:25 PM Christian wrote: > > Hello Kevin, thank you for support. I choosed Nvidia again deliberately > because I want to play with Tesorflow, Scikit-Learn and GPT. And yes I > had my experiences with Nvidia over the year as well. But I decided to > take Nvidia again. Maybe

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

30 Oct 2024 16:25:58 Christian : > I choosed Nvidia again deliberately because I want to play with Tesorflow, > Scikit-Learn and GPT. Or perhaps game. People seem to forget that 20 years ago Nvidia was the only supporter of full featured gpu drivers on Linux. Have you tried disabling secure bo

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

Hello Kevin, thank you for support. I choosed Nvidia again deliberately because I want to play with Tesorflow, Scikit-Learn and GPT. And yes I had my experiences with Nvidia over the year as well. But I decided to take Nvidia again. Maybe there are more people like me, giving up the installatio

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

Hello Timothy, I did so. I used Debian Testing/Trixie, which I also use on my current old system (build 2015) with apt pinning and everything... The ISO I used was debian-live-testing-amd64-xfce.iso. BR Christian On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 10:58 AM Christian wrote: Hi Thomas, thank you for you

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 10:58 AM Christian wrote: > Hi Thomas, thank you for your help. So far I couldn't see anything in my > cmdline which is kernel_lockdown related. And I grep'ed the whole /etc > and /boot directory recursively. Nothing. And neither in the dmesg, > there is no "lsm=" line. On

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

odeset > > and nvidia. But something still prevents the X server from starting: > > > > [ 304.354] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 535.183.01 Sun May 12 19:37:53 UTC > > 2024 > > [ 304.355] (II) NVIDIA: The X server supports PRIME Render Offload. > > [ 308.891] (EE

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

the Nvidia driver and everything to build it. Then I created my MOK key and enrolled them. So the nvidia-current module is signed now and is getting loaded as nvidia_drm, nvidia_modeset and nvidia. But something still prevents the X server from starting: [ 304.354] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

Hi Thomas, thank you for your help. So far I couldn't see anything in my cmdline which is kernel_lockdown related. And I grep'ed the whole /etc and /boot directory recursively. Nothing. And neither in the dmesg, there is no "lsm=" line. Only in the kernel .config is CONFIG_SECURITY_LOCKDOWN=y,

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

>> NVIDIA is a major pain in the ass with Linux. Which is why I do not >> use them. > Actually this is more Linux being a major pain in the ass to Nvidia. Hmm... I haven't seen any sign that Nvidia suffers much, so I think it's more clearly a pain inflicted on Linux. Stefan

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

29 Oct 2024 17:38:39 Timothy M Butterworth : > NVIDIA is a major pain in the ass with Linux. Which is why I do not > use them. Actually this is more Linux being a major pain in the ass to Nvidia. When secure boot is enabled lockdown is automatically enabled. Really debian should provide an Nvid

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

ing still prevents the X server from starting: > > [ 304.354] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 535.183.01 Sun May 12 19:37:53 UTC > 2024 > [ 304.355] (II) NVIDIA: The X server supports PRIME Render Offload. > [ 308.891] (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA GPU at > PCI:1:0

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

Hi, Christian wrote: > [   47.042454] Lockdown: Xorg: raw io port access is restricted; see man > kernel_lockdown.7 > I think it's still SecureBoot, but what is it this time? Can anyone help At least the above log snippet seems to be related to SecureBoot. In https://manpages.debian.org/bookwo

X server blocked by SecureBoot

the Nvidia driver and everything to build it. Then I created my MOK key and enrolled them. So the nvidia-current module is signed now and is getting loaded as nvidia_drm, nvidia_modeset and nvidia. But something still prevents the X server from starting: [   304.354] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 05:34:36 +0100 (BST) Tim Woodall wrote: > On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, Charles Curley wrote: > > [...] > [...] > [...] > That page is out of date. On the LTS page itself: > > Debian 9 "Stretch" > > i386, amd64, armel, armhf and arm64 > > July 6, 2020 to June 3

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

Charles Curley writes: > On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 19:41:37 +0100 > Brian wrote: > >> I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come >> from? > > Stretch is oldoldstable, and under LTS support. > https://www.debian.org/releases/ Actually LTS support for Stretch ended in mid-20

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 at 04:24, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, Brian wrote: > >>> I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come > >>> from? > It's been moved to archive.debian.org. Just hasn't been deleted from the > main repo yet but I think that's imminent. T

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, Charles Curley wrote: On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 19:41:37 +0100 Brian wrote: I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come from? Stretch is oldoldstable, and under LTS support. https://www.debian.org/releases/ That page is out of date. On the LTS pag

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, Brian wrote: I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come from? It may or may not be supported, but it's still there AFAICT: [DIR] binary-amd64/ 2021-08-14 07:43 [ ] Packages.gz 2020-07-18 10:409.2M [ ] base-files_9.9+deb

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 19:41:37 +0100 Brian wrote: > I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come > from? Stretch is oldoldstable, and under LTS support. https://www.debian.org/releases/ I would encourage the original poster to consider installing bullseye rather than pur

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

update (which I rarely do…), upon restarting the system fails to launch X server. I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come from? I speculate that the OP's sources.list identifies the desired distribution by a temporally relative suite name --say, "stable"

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

y Desktop running Debian Stretch. Having unfortunately >>> Okayed a proposal for an update (which I rarely do…), upon >>> restarting the system fails to launch X server. >> >> I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update >> come fro

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

restarting the system fails to launch X server. I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come from? I speculate that the OP's sources.list identifies the desired distribution by a temporally relative suite name --say, "stable" or "oldstable"-- instead o

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

te (which I rarely do…), > > upon restarting the system fails to launch X server. > > I thought stretch is unsupported by Debian. Where did the update come from? It may or may not be supported, but it's still there AFAICT: [DIR] binary-amd64/ 2021-08-14 07:43 [ ] Packag

Re: Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

Bernard wrote: ... > How can I get back to my old system prior to this failed update ? What > else can I do ? > > Thanks in advance for your help in restoring my system take a look at the files in /var/log/apt history should tell you what was updated last and you could try to install a prev

Debian Stretch : X server won't start after update

Hi to Everyone, I am writing from my laptop on Ubuntu, but the problem I have is with my Desktop running Debian Stretch. Having unfortunately Okayed a proposal for an update (which I rarely do…), upon restarting the system fails to launch X server. My /var/log/messages are available at http

X server crashes when changing font size in LibreOffice / 'Failed to compile FS'

Dear list, when enlarging text in LibreOffice Writer (e.g. 96pt) so that the characters fill the screen, the X server reproducibly crashes. I'm running Debian sid with the package xorg-server 21.1.7-1. Hardware is a ThinkPad T410 with integrated Intel graphics. Xorg.

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > > There are a bunch of loonies out there who don't like other > > people based on gender, sex, skin color, religion, geography, or > > merely the fact that their computer is unsecured. > > > > Thanks, I didn't know the word loonies applied to yoursel

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Hi, > If I'm asking for help, I don't want to hear "try this, it's > dangerous" unless all other possibilities have been exhausted. > > If you want to start a thread "dangerous things to do to risk > your data", that's fine. Would you be stuck in something like YOU = ALL OTHER BEING ? Can you le

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer] - continue

Hi, > > > And there's most people on earth who don't give a minute thinking about > this. > > Ask any business manager, he doesn't give much interest in his computer > installation, as long one thing goes, what is it ? That the system > permit core operation for the company and profit conti

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Hi, Note : Sorry Andrei if this message may seem to be wrote directly to you because in fact it's written to all the "you" around who may feel concerned. You got a direct reply because I was replying to your message. Again, this could be something not to be done. On 2021-06-30 7:58 p.m., Andrei

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Mi, 30 iun 21, 11:44:42, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > Now here's what will amaze you... > You can do the same with a computer. > Take risk... > Make your computer unusable... Sure, it's a great learning experience. > Type "alias cd=rm -rf" In my opinion it's generally a bad ide

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Mi, 30 iun 21, 11:02:43, Thompson, Brian wrote: > > Is this mailing list usually used for philosophical debates, persuasion, and > primitive name-calling? Genuinely curious so that I can unsub if it is. It happens more or less every time during the freeze, as there are less problems to solve

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Mi, 30 iun 21, 05:57:19, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > > On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > >> On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> > >>> I can only hope that one day someone will

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 23:40:54 +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-06-30 18:56, Brian wrote: > > > > "f" word is very ancient English word which gives added emphasis > > > especially > > > when unexpected > > > Doesn't bother me but as you say is inappropriate on mailing list > > > and I'm > > > s

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On 2021-06-30 18:56, Brian wrote: "f" word is very ancient English word which gives added emphasis especially when unexpected Doesn't bother me but as you say is inappropriate on mailing list and I'm sure it's a one-off. It is inappropriate anywhere in public. You are not bothered by this?

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 09:33:37 -0400 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > There's a old saying that state : > "Give someone a fish, feed him for the day, teach him how to fish, > feed him for life". > > That must be something that doesn't apply anymore. It never did. The second clause is

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 14:27:16 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: [...] > There are a bunch of loonies... A very nineteenth centrury word. This bunch of people have views that are due to some mental illness? Maybe a touch of empathy would not go unnoticed. [...] -- Brian.

Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...]

On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 14:45:57 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [1] I'm somewhat of a language nerd. I do love all words! Words are words. They exist. So why do they disappear from the language? I would suggest some consideration about using "cretin", "moron" and "lunatic" in public. Their histo

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > > For people that I consider part of my community, I feel a higher > > standard of care is in order. > > > Haven't you ever tried to think of computing as a "no risk involved" > possibility ? > > If I accept that I may risk rendering the system u

Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...]

On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 14:45:57 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 01:31:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > On 2021-06-30 10:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > >[...] > > > > > >>DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 13:31:37 +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-06-30 10:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y > > > > > > That was the fucking point. > > > > Calm down.

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Hi, On 2021-06-30 11:59 a.m., Dan Ritter wrote: > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> Now here's what will amaze you... >> You can do the same with a computer. >> Take risk... >> Make your computer unusable... >> Type "alias cd=rm -rf" >> Open all the ports and get hacked. >> Open all the p

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On 30 Jun 2021, at 10:44, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Hi, To summarize, there are basically two sane approaches to remote X clients: "Two sane approach" ? Okay, there's only two approach YOU believe in. That's it. There's at least a dozen of way to install a X11 network system

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Now here's what will amaze you... > You can do the same with a computer. > Take risk... > Make your computer unusable... > Type "alias cd=rm -rf" > Open all the ports and get hacked. > Open all the ports and not get hacked. > Take risk and loose not much be

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Hi, > > To summarize, there are basically two sane approaches to remote X clients: > "Two sane approach" ? Okay, there's only two approach YOU believe in. That's it. There's at least a dozen of way to install a X11 network system. You don't have any a power to judge other than your own self. Y

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:07:24AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 04:35:13PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > BTW: the problematic thing is called "xhost +", not "xhost +x", which > > won't work... > > > > tomas@trotzki:~$ xhost + x > > xhost: bad hostname "x" > > >

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

equate warnings about the security ramifications of their suggestions. Let alone the difficulty. To summarize, there are basically two sane approaches to remote X clients: 1) Run a Display Manager with XDMCP on the remote host, and allow users to connect to that from their workstations. The

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 09:16:37AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, [...] > I didn't have in mind any type of murder or long lasting damage of any soft. Still, it's a pretty violent metaphor, I think we can agree on that. And perhaps somewhat off-tone for a mailing list with r

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 09:33:37AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, [...] > I was the stupid and dumb person who started talking about "the classic > way" of authentication using X11. Uh, whatever. I don't think you're stupid. I don't think *you* think you're stupid. So I'm ig

Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...]

Hi, >> [1] I'm somewhat of a language nerd. I do love all words! >> > I too am a language nerd. It is terribly fascinating how a particular > word, regardless of things like history and etymology can come to be > considered a "bad word" all on its own in any context. Other words are > "bad" only

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On 2021-06-30 at 09:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-06-30 5:57 a.m., The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> Yes, whatever great idea you have, even if others are wrong in >>> what they say. Nothing justify being r

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Hi, On 2021-06-30 5:59 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [...] > >> DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y >> >> That was the fucking point. > > Calm down. I understand security is close to your heart, > but there's no need to b

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Hi, On 2021-06-30 5:57 a.m., The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> >>> On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> I can only hope that one day someone w

Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...]

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 02:45:57PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 01:31:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > On 2021-06-30 10:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > >[...] > > > > > >>DO NOT USE xhost + WITH s

Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...]

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 01:31:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-06-30 10:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > >[...] > > > >>DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y > >> > >>That was the fucking point. > > > >Calm down. I underst

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On 2021-06-30 10:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y That was the fucking point. Calm down. I understand security is close to your heart, but there's no need to be so vitriolic and borderli

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y > > That was the fucking point. Calm down. I understand security is close to your heart, but there's no need to be so vitriolic and borderline insulting about it. There are nicer way

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> >>> I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a >>> shovel in the face because yo

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> >>> I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a >>> shovel in the face because yo

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 05:23:49AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> > >> I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a shovel in > >> t

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

does the job and even prevent some problem when my GF fill up her laptop's home partition. And yes, sometime I did use xhost + because it was easy to do when running over our home network. Even more that we have a computer that serve as a router and filter everything, there's was nearly no ri

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a shovel in > the face because you said something wrong. This will be a great day and > you'll get back what you serve to others. Seriously? > This is a figure of

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Ma, 29 iun 21, 04:56:55, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > On 2021-06-28 11:13 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > (Avoid ANY proposed solution that talks about xhost. Seriously.) > > > Yes, solutions using xhost maybe a bit a pain in the ass but they are > also some of the nice one th

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Hi my friend, On 2021-06-29 4:58 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 04:46:48PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> I've read back the whole series of message and no one ever said anything >> that is somewhat possible to be interpreted as >> using xhost +x with SSH

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 04:46:48PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > I've read back the whole series of message and no one ever said anything > that is somewhat possible to be interpreted as > using xhost +x with SSH -X https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/06/msg00900.html

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Hi, >> that's how you learned things back in the early 1990s, that's your right, >> but I hope you will at least point out how INCREDIBLY INSECURE this is, > > I never said in no situation something like "use xhost +". > The same way as I never said to unblock all the ports on your router or > to

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

ith ssh -X. xhost + and manually > overriding DISPLAY bypasses the ssh encryption layer entirely. It also > involves starting the X server with a non-default option, so it's quite > a lot more work than using ssh -X. Which is good. We wouldn't want the > horribly broken way to

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

t;and it's archives. > >Andy Cater > >> >> Now, if you want to advocate that people should use xhost + because >> that's how you learned things back in the early 1990s, that's your >right, >> but I hope you will at least point out how INCREDIBLY IN

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

and that it should only be done on an isolated private network, and only > for educational purposes, never for actual work. > > Even then, you wouldn't combine it with ssh -X. xhost + and manually > overriding DISPLAY bypasses the ssh encryption layer entirely. It also > involves starting the X server with a non-default option, so it's quite > a lot more work than using ssh -X. Which is good. We wouldn't want the > horribly broken way to be the easy way. >

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

ut I hope you will at least point out how INCREDIBLY INSECURE this is, and that it should only be done on an isolated private network, and only for educational purposes, never for actual work. Even then, you wouldn't combine it with ssh -X. xhost + and manually overriding DISPLAY bypass

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Hi, On 2021-06-29 1:27 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 04:33:50PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> ssh -Y is similar to ssh -X but does some authentication - yuu don't have >> to use xhost+ or similar. > > You don't use xhost with ssh -X, either. At least, not explicitly.

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 04:33:50PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > ssh -Y is similar to ssh -X but does some authentication - yuu don't have > to use xhost+ or similar. You don't use xhost with ssh -X, either. At least, not explicitly. ssh takes care of that for you. In fact, on Debian, ssh -X

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 12:13:53PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-06-29 5:52 a.m., IL Ka wrote: > > > > > > There's plenty of book you can find by searching on Google with the > > subject "X11 architecture" or something similar. > > > > There is a classi

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Hi, On 2021-06-29 5:52 a.m., IL Ka wrote: > > > There's plenty of book you can find by searching on Google with the > subject "X11 architecture" or something similar. > > There is a classic "Definitive Guides to the X Window System" series. > https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/x-windo

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

> > > > There's plenty of book you can find by searching on Google with the > subject "X11 architecture" or something similar. > > There is a classic "Definitive Guides to the X Window System" series. https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/x-windows-system/9780937175835/ Also https://www.oreilly.com/

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Hi, On 2021-06-28 11:13 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 10:46:01PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> On 2021-06-28 10:12 p.m., Rick Thomas wrote: >>> I'd love to be able to do that! E.g. a headless machine with plenty of RAM >>> and CPU power to run Mate, b

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 10:46:01PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-06-28 10:12 p.m., Rick Thomas wrote: > > I'd love to be able to do that! E.g. a headless machine with plenty of RAM > > and CPU power to run Mate, but located in a locked building on the other > > side of

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

Hi, On 2021-06-28 10:12 p.m., Rick Thomas wrote: > On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, at 8:33 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote: >>> X clients like MATE don't directly depend on an X server, because in >>> theory, the X server could be on a different machine. > > I'd love to be able

X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, at 8:33 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > X clients like MATE don't directly depend on an X server, because in > > theory, the X server could be on a different machine. I'd love to be able to do that! E.g. a headless machine with plenty of RAM and CPU

Re: My X server not working. I think it cannot find /dev/dri/card0 [Solved]

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 06:51:21PM -0500, R. Ramesh wrote: > >    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 8a56 > >    (rev 07) Google gave me . It says: This requires a later kernel t

Re: My X server not working. I think it cannot find /dev/dri/card0 [Solved]

On 3/26/21 4:50 PM, R. Ramesh wrote: Hi,   I installed debian buster on minisforum X35G with Core i3-1005G1. Install went through fine, but lightdm does not start up. Upon inspecting logs, I found out that X server does not startup for lightdm to use. Looking /var/log/Xorg.0.log, I see these

My X server not working. I think it cannot find /dev/dri/card0

Hi,   I installed debian buster on minisforum X35G with Core i3-1005G1. Install went through fine, but lightdm does not start up. Upon inspecting logs, I found out that X server does not startup for lightdm to use. Looking /var/log/Xorg.0.log, I see these error messages yoda-mini

Re: X server does not start after upgrading to Debian 10

Felix Miata composed on 2019-07-08 23:21 (UTC-0400): > ISTR your experience is known to upstream, but I get lost trying to > find anything I want in their tracking systems. :-P https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/542 might be what I was thinking of. -- Evolution as taught in publi

Re: X server does not start after upgrading to Debian 10

Teemu Likonen composed on 2019-07-07 15:13 (UTC+0300): > Solved. The X server chooses automatically some wrong graphics module > ("modeset" I guess). If I force it to use "intel" module the X server > works again. The Intel DDX hasn't had an official r

Re: X server does not start after upgrading to Debian 10

Teemu Likonen [2019-07-07T14:29:03+03] wrote: > The problem: X server doesn't start anymore with Debian 10's default > kernel version 4.19. The X server starts and works nicely with kernel > 4.9 which I have still installed from Debian 9. > > What happens: Even a simp

Re: X server does not start after upgrading to Debian 10

On 2019-07-07 14:29 +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: > Upgrade to Debian 10 didn't end up well although all packages upgraded > smoothly. > > The problem: X server doesn't start anymore with Debian 10's default > kernel version 4.19. The X server starts and works nicely

X server does not start after upgrading to Debian 10

Upgrade to Debian 10 didn't end up well although all packages upgraded smoothly. The problem: X server doesn't start anymore with Debian 10's default kernel version 4.19. The X server starts and works nicely with kernel 4.9 which I have still installed from Debian 9. What happens

Re: [Stretch] startx: /bin/sh: 0: Can't open /usr/bin/X; xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused

On Mon 19 Jun 2017 at 14:43:08 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Greg Wooledge composed on 2017-06-19 11:05 (UTC-0400): > > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 11:00:32AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > . > >> I have a dozen machines with Stretch installed, most with Jessie and/or > >> Sid as > >> well. Only Stretc

Re: [Stretch] startx: /bin/sh: 0: Can't open /usr/bin/X; xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused

Greg Wooledge composed on 2017-06-19 11:05 (UTC-0400): > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 11:00:32AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: . >> I have a dozen machines with Stretch installed, most with Jessie and/or Sid >> as >> well. Only Stretch on host big41 produces the subject problem. . > According to a previou

Re: [Stretch] startx: /bin/sh: 0: Can't open /usr/bin/X; xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused

On Mon, 19 Jun 2017, Brian wrote: > The same experience as yours on tty1 to tty6. Except a couple of days > ago when I used nouveau.modeset=0 on GRUB's linux line and got what is > in the subject header. Kernel modeset must be enabled non-root X to work, as you found out... -- Henrique Holschu

Re: [Stretch] startx: /bin/sh: 0: Can't open /usr/bin/X; xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 11:00:32AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > I have a dozen machines with Stretch installed, most with Jessie and/or Sid as > well. Only Stretch on host big41 produces the subject problem. According to a previous message in this thread, it could be triggered by a specific kernel

Re: [Stretch] startx: /bin/sh: 0: Can't open /usr/bin/X; xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused

Greg Wooledge composed on 2017-06-19 09:29 (UTC-0400): . > On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 05:53:43PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: . >> When I try as ordinary user (on host big41), I get the subject message. >> Anyone >> know how to get startx to work in Stretch, either on :0, :1 or :2, with or >> without a

Re: [Stretch] startx: /bin/sh: 0: Can't open /usr/bin/X; xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused

On Mon 19 Jun 2017 at 09:29:40 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 05:53:43PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > When I try as ordinary user (on host big41), I get the subject message. > > Anyone > > know how to get startx to work in Stretch, either on :0, :1 or :2, with or > > witho

Re: [Stretch] startx: /bin/sh: 0: Can't open /usr/bin/X; xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 05:53:43PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > When I try as ordinary user (on host big41), I get the subject message. Anyone > know how to get startx to work in Stretch, either on :0, :1 or :2, with or > without a greeter running (multi-user.targer vs. graphical.target)? I've been

[Stretch] startx: /bin/sh: 0: Can't open /usr/bin/X; xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused

>From the release notes: 2.2.10. The Xorg server no longer requires root In the stretch version of Xorg, it is possible to run the Xorg server as a regular user rather than as root. This reduces the risk of privilege escalation via bugs in the X server. However, it has s

Re: Matrox G550 - MGA X server fails

Oliver Elphick composed on 2017-03-22 10:25 (UTC): I am unable to start X using a Matrox Millennium G550 PCIe card. Does iomem=relaxed on kernel cmdline help? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2

Re: Matrox G550 - MGA X server fails

. There is no simple VGA= parameter to change. I have set the X server to setuid and am going to swap the video card back in and try again later. Fresh info from the openSUSE bug: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=d92d9c3a14488e5af9d7015189f50e02346950f2

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